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06:07 < Mineque> hi
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06:41 <@Horwitz> morgen
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10:23 < woglinde> hi antenna
10:26 < woglinde> ah good
10:27 < woglinde> I think I can bring back the shell behaviour
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10:55 < antenna1> woglinde: now I use a scipt, but it's cool anyway
10:59 < antenna1> woglinde: Do you think that there is any chance follow could be enabled and disabled from within an osd button?
11:01 < woglinde> not at the moment
11:14 < woglinde> hm okay
11:14 < woglinde> it should be possible
11:21 < woglinde> but its complicated
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14:51 < syn7ax> i use navit on a portable deice (palm pre) and got crashes after i start the destination drive
14:51 < syn7ax> need help
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15:10 < KaZeR_W> hi syn7ax
15:10 < syn7ax> hi
15:11 < KaZeR_W> which release is it?
15:14 < syn7ax> navit?
15:14 < syn7ax> ´wait..
15:15 < syn7ax> 0.5.0 4353M
15:15 < syn7ax> webos 1.4.5
15:16 < KaZeR_W> ok
15:17 < KaZeR_W> do you have a gps fix currently?
15:17 < syn7ax> did i need one
15:17 < syn7ax> ??
15:17 < syn7ax> gps seems to be running in navit
15:17 < syn7ax> my position is shown
15:19 < KaZeR_W> it crashes right when you try to set a destination? or after some computing?
15:20 < syn7ax> right after destination drive
15:20 < syn7ax> when i click on "sart destination"
15:23 < syn7ax> KaZeR_W: maybe a gps fix needed?
15:23 < syn7ax> or what did u think
15:23 < Mineque> syn7ax: maybe you have enabled both gps and demo vehicle?
15:24 < syn7ax> to check where? in navit.xml or the settings in the interface of navit?
15:25 < syn7ax> in the setting->car is only GPS setted
15:25 < KaZeR_W> syn7ax, even if you don't have a fix, it shouldn't crash (it should just wait)
15:26 < syn7ax> which gps fix u mean?
15:26 < syn7ax> link?
15:27 < KaZeR_W> no, a fix is when the gps gives you a correct position
15:29 < syn7ax> ah.
15:29 < syn7ax> yes gps give's me a correct position
15:29 < syn7ax> at start
15:30 < syn7ax> so i dont need a gps fix right..
15:31 < KaZeR_W> it shouldn't crash, anyway :)
15:31 < syn7ax> :)
15:31 < syn7ax> but it does
15:31 < syn7ax> strange
15:31 < syn7ax> i will take a look in the navit.xml to check this demo thang from Mineque
15:34 < syn7ax> is there any crash log from navit?
15:34 < syn7ax> or only debug mode
15:35 < syn7ax> i got 3 navit xml files^^
15:35 < KaZeR_W> i don't know about the palm pre device, but you should be able to enable logging in the xml, yes
15:35 < syn7ax> es/navit.xml
15:35 < syn7ax> .media/internal/appdata/org.webosinternals.navit/navit.xml
15:35 < syn7ax> .s/navit.xml
15:35 < syn7ax> .media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.navit/dist_fil
15:35 < syn7ax> s/navit.xml
15:36 < syn7ax> .media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.navit/share/navit/navit.xm
15:36 < syn7ax> +l
15:38 < syn7ax> how to set logging in xml
15:38 < syn7ax> <debug name="navit:popup_printf_cb" level="1"/> ??
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15:45 < KaZeR_W> syn7ax,  http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit#Debugging but you will need gdb
15:45 < syn7ax> k
15:45 < syn7ax> thx
15:46 < syn7ax> gdb is what?
15:48 < syn7ax> ok i see, its a debugger
15:54 < KaZeR_W> gnu debugger :)
16:05 < syn7ax> how can i start navit from shell
16:05 < syn7ax> on my palm pre
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16:09 < syn7ax> nice..
16:09 < syn7ax> now i start it from shell
16:09 < syn7ax> and it dont crash
16:09 < syn7ax> hmm but its not nice to handle like this
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16:27 < syn7ax> how can i deactivate 3d look by default in the navit.xml?
16:27 < syn7ax> <gui type="cegui" tilt="400" view_mode="2D" skin="Mineque" /> ?
16:28 < syn7ax> did i have cegui on palm version?
16:33 < Mineque> there is no cegui
16:33 < Mineque> forget about it
16:33 < Mineque> abandoned ;)
16:33 < Mineque> gui internal only
16:33 < Mineque> or gtk
16:33 < Mineque> or not finished qml
16:35 < syn7ax> k
16:35 < syn7ax> i will use navit_gui_pre.xml
16:41 < syn7ax> is there any way to get bedder voice files...
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17:15 < woglinde> kazer ping
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17:35 < woglinde> hi rd
17:40 < rd> hi woglinde
17:40 < rd> antenna1, I forgot that the logs are not working, can you post your espeak cmd line again, which is using mbrola?
17:44 < antenna1> espeak -vmb-de5 -s '140' '%s'
17:44 < antenna1> clients like pidgin provide logs too
17:45 < antenna1> if you use espeak < 1.44 you need a bash script and pipe it
17:59 < rd> I get voice output, but also an error message:
17:59 < rd> http://pastebin.ca/2065901
17:59 < rd> antenna1, does that tell you something?
18:00 < woglinde> mbrola voice not found
18:01 < woglinde> error message is clear
18:03 < antenna1> rd did you install mbrola?
18:04 < antenna1> and did you download de5?
18:04 < antenna1> you need to unzip it and put it to /usr/share/mbrola/voices
18:04 < rd> yes, I installed mbrola and downloaded de5
18:05 < antenna1> and where did you put the de5 binary?
18:05 < rd> here: /usr/bin/mbrola
18:05 < rd> I used the debian package and compiled it for the n900
18:05 < rd> I think the problem is the signal 11
18:05 < antenna1> well then, put move to the right path
18:06 < rd> what is the right path??
18:06 < antenna1> /usr/share/mbrola/voices
18:06 < antenna1> at least for ubuntu
18:06 < rd> for the binary?
18:07 < antenna1> called de5
18:07 < rd> ooh....the de5 binary, sorry.
18:07 < rd> For that I have /usr/share/mbrola/de5/de5
18:08 < rd> Did you use the deb package to install de5 and mbrola in ubuntu?
18:08 < antenna1> nope, I used apt-get to install mbrola and downloaded the de5 manually
18:08 < rd> ok
18:09 < rd> is this the full path and filename of the binary: /usr/share/mbrola/voices/de5
18:09 < rd> or /usr/share/mbrola/voices/de5/de5 ?
18:10 < antenna1> first one
18:10 < rd> Ok.
18:10 < rd> Hmm....on a regular debian box these paths work (out of the debian package).
18:11 < antenna1> well I can only tell you how I do it on ubuntu
18:11 < antenna1> espeak complained, when the de5 was not in there
18:13 < rd> but you did not see a signal 11, right?
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18:14 < korrosa> rd: Navit IRC logs are currently at http://irclogs.navit.ie
18:14 < woglinde> rd you try strace
18:14 < korrosa> KaZeR, cp15, Horwitz: Please could the IRC subject be changed to reflect this?
18:14 < woglinde> to check of all files are found
18:15 < rd> where is strace included?
18:15 < rd> Thanks for the irclogs
18:16 < woglinde> apt-get install strace
18:16 < rd> Where does it come from? apt-cache policy ... ?
18:18 < rd> I get a segfault even when I just do an mbrola -h
18:18 < woglinde> then use gdb
18:18 < woglinde> but I guess there are some files not at the right place
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19:08 < panfist> hi, i'm trying to get navit working on an archos43. i have an sd card with 7GB free and 12GB free on the phone, but when i try to download a ~2GB map, it says i don't have enough free space
19:08 < panfist> s/phone/device/
19:31 < korrosa> panfist: I presume it's an Android device?
19:31 < panfist> yes, it's running 2.2.1
19:32 < Mineque> hi korrosa
19:37 < korrosa> Hi Mineque
19:38 < korrosa> panfist: I'm only a user, and don't use Navit on Android so unfortunately can't help! I also haven't seen the Android dev around here for a week or so....
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19:46 < korrosa> panfist: Perhaps try downloading a map off the navit map extractor on your pc and transferring it to your device once downloaded?
19:46 < panfist> sounds like a good idea. i was actually just now trying to look up how to do that
19:48 < korrosa> Shout if you run into trouble!
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19:50 < woglinde> korrosa rikky is now android dev
19:50 < woglinde> zoff has no commit rights anymore
19:50 < Mineque> woglinde: why he looses it?
19:50 < Mineque> *lost
19:51 < woglinde> poking in files he didnt have too
19:53 < korrosa> woglinde: I'm aware, and it's Rikky who I haven't seen in a while!
19:53 < woglinde> oh okay
19:54 < woglinde> korrosa btw. I found a possibility with execvp to get shell behaviour back
19:54 < woglinde> but I need some time for coding and testing
19:58 < korrosa> woglinde: Sounds good. As I said yesterday I use a shell script, so it doesn't actually affect me. I'm just worried about everyone else who doesn't use a shell script who lose their speech!
19:59 < woglinde> korrosa shells have -c options
19:59 < woglinde> so I am trying to detect if the cmdline has shell syntax
20:00 < woglinde> and the change argv to /bin/shell -c cmdline
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22:29 < antenna1> can sb give the xml for that green arrow cursor?
22:31 < woglinde> ?
22:39 < Mineque> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Layout#3D_Arrow-head
22:40 < Mineque> antenna1: you have to change navit.xml
22:40 < Mineque> find cursor tag
22:40 < antenna1> Mineque: I know that
22:40 < antenna1> but all I get is a circle not an arrow
22:40 < Mineque> so?
22:41 < antenna1> Mineque: like that: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/File:AndroidLayout800x480_H.png
22:42 < Mineque> also nice
22:42 < Mineque> but rather not arrow
22:45 < antenna1> Mineque: yes, but this is what I get, when I add the xml you gave me
22:46 < woglinde> hm okay
22:46 < woglinde> seems I got shell syntax back
22:47 < Mineque> i'm curious why there is cicle tag
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22:48 < Mineque> antenna1: did you checked with demo vehicle?
22:48 < Mineque> at higher speed
22:48 < Mineque> because i see that dot is low speed
22:48 < Mineque> or no sped
22:48 < antenna1> ah ok
22:48 < Mineque> and bigger speed is arrrow
22:48 < antenna1> alright, thanks
22:48 < Mineque> look at speed_range
22:48 < antenna1> I had gps, but standing still
22:49 < Mineque> try with demo vehicle
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22:52 < Mineque> antenna1: if works 5bucks please :D
22:53 < woglinde> good nite
22:53 < antenna1> ok, give me your paypal, you money,grubbing bastard
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22:54 < antenna1> :D
22:54 < Mineque> :D
22:54 < Mineque> antenna1: RTFM :D
22:55 < Mineque> btw anybody seen cp15?
22:55 < antenna1> no way!  I mean people like you need a job too
22:56 < Mineque> antenna1: dont make me angry, i'll broke your corel! :P
22:59 < Mineque> i fixed it i can break it :P
23:00 < Mineque> antenna1: btw, could you try to save as gif with transparency
23:00 < Mineque> it it'll got blue stroke
23:00 < Mineque> ?
23:01 < antenna1> I'll try.
23:02 < antenna1> is there any disadvantage or difference to png?
23:03 < Mineque> number of colors afair
23:03 < antenna1> yeah, there is only 8bit
23:03 < antenna1> so I got the white circumference again
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23:58 < Mineque> gn guys
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