--- Log opened Sun Jun 19 00:00:37 2011 00:28 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:42 -!- Morphous_ [jan@f049033035.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57 -!- Morphous_ [jan@f049067113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:08 -!- noradtux_ [~quassel@f054123052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:08 -!- noradtux [~quassel@f054120058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:34 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-202-219.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:48 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-197-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 06:05 -!- Statler [~georg@62.206.124.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.126.46.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 08:03 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.126.46.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:49 -!- goldfndr__ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-206-144.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #navit 08:49 -!- goldfndr_ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-206-144.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:02 -!- Fragle [Fragle@dslb-178-003-230-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 09:14 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:14 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has joined #navit 09:21 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 09:37 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 10:02 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 10:02 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 10:19 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:32 -!- bzed [~bzed@2001:470:1f0b:168f::2] has joined #navit 10:36 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.125.189.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 10:49 -!- Fragle [Fragle@dslb-178-003-230-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 11:03 -!- xinzhao [7b067af3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.6.122.243] has joined #navit 11:07 -!- black-ss [7b067af3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.6.122.243] has joined #navit 11:10 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 11:12 < black-ss> Hello! everyone! 11:16 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.125.189.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:18 < black-ss> Hi, I am trying to use Navit working on WinCE,but I have compile problems. 11:19 < Mineque> black-ss: did you try nightly builds? 11:21 -!- black-ss_ [7b067af3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.6.122.243] has joined #navit 11:22 < black-ss_> Nick 11:22 < black-ss_> Are you on line? 11:22 -!- black-ss [7b067af3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.6.122.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:23 < Mineque> 12:14 < Mineque> black-ss: did you try nightly builds? 11:24 < Mineque> look for it at wiki page for wince 11:24 < black-ss_> Sorry,I am China 11:24 < black-ss_> So it's day time for me 11:26 < Mineque> nightly means everynight compiled 11:26 < Mineque> doesnt matter your timezone ;) 11:26 < Mineque> just choose latest 11:27 < black-ss_> yes, I choose the latest 11:27 < black-ss_> I have seen the wiki page for wince 11:27 < black-ss_> but still have problems 11:28 < black-ss_> I feel mad 11:29 < Mineque> what problems? 11:29 < Mineque> apart of compilation problem 11:29 < black-ss_> I always got config_.c:78: error: 'SIGTERM' undeclared error 11:31 < black-ss_> I have post my question on the help page,but no one answers. 11:31 < black-ss_> So I find here 11:31 < Mineque> for bug reports use only trac.navit-project.org 11:32 < Mineque> you have first register at wiki and then use wiki url to your account as your openid login 11:32 < Mineque> at trac 11:33 < black-ss_> Well, I have tryed to send a mail 11:33 < black-ss_> but 11:33 < black-ss_> seems I am not a user 11:35 < black-ss_> sorry I will read more about how to use trace 11:36 < black-ss_> Now I just want know which system we are using to cross compile 11:37 < black-ss_> I tryed rhel4 rhel5 and opensuse11.4 but alwayse failed 11:38 < black-ss_> any suggest maybe give me a quick help 11:38 < Mineque> too less info 11:38 < Mineque> whole compile log 11:38 < Mineque> or some bigger part with error 11:39 < black-ss_> I can collect the log info,but dont know how to post the log and where to post 11:40 < black-ss_> my english seems limit 11:48 < black-ss_> May I leave a message for number6? just doubble click on him? 11:50 < drlizau> you can leave logs at pastebin.com 11:51 < black-ss_> pastebin.com? 11:52 < black-ss_> I try to find it 11:53 < black-ss_> very thanks , Mineque and drlizau 11:53 -!- tryagain [d9962aec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.236] has joined #navit 11:58 < tryagain> I seem to still have a problem loggin in to trac with OpenID login registered at wiki.navit-project.org. Login got from myopenid.com works well. 11:59 < antenna1> tryagain: we all do, I guess 12:01 < tryagain> So why do we suggest to people register at wiki to post on trac? 11:32 < Mineque> you have first register at wiki and then use wiki url to your account as your openid login 12:02 < tryagain> black-ss_ did you try to run precompiled build from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/wince/svn/navit-svn-4531.zip ? 12:07 < black-ss_> tryagain: I got it,but i'd like to compile it my self 12:08 < tryagain> ok, looking at your compile logs at sourceforge. Had similar problems, will try to remember what helped me 12:09 < black-ss_> i find that some failed compile logs have the same error with mine 12:10 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:10 < black-ss_> http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince/svn/navit-svn-3649.failed 12:10 < black-ss_> this one 12:13 < black-ss_> I still dont konw how to post logs. pastebin.com seems no relations with Navit,I dont know how to use.Is there any help page links? 12:13 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 12:13 -!- xinzhao [7b067af3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.6.122.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:14 < tryagain> black-ss_ please look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/navit/forums/forum/512960/topic/4576161/index/page/1 12:14 < black-ss_> OK thanks 12:16 < tryagain> black-ss_ Yes pastebin has no relations with Navit. So you just publish a paste there and then drop a link where you need (here). If you use trac to post your report then I feel it's better to post your logs, patches etc there. 12:20 < antenna1> tryagain: for your patch as described in ticket #859 only osm.c and gui_internal.c need to be modified, right? 12:23 < tryagain> antenna1 'grep Index poi_filter_with_address_search4.diff' reports maptool/osm.c, support/glib/fake.c, gui/internal/gui_internal.c and navit/search.c 12:24 < tryagain> fake.c is needed for builds with internal copy of Glib (Windows, WinCE, unsure if Android) 12:25 < tryagain> osm.c is needed if you will build your own maps (highly recommended to get most of it) 12:26 < tryagain> Will be back & read channel logs. CUL8R! 12:27 < tryagain> btw black-ss_ check it you have saxon installed and if it's in prerequesties 12:28 -!- tryagain [d9962aec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.236] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:28 < black-ss_> OK 12:29 < black-ss_> In rhel5 I installed saxon by hand 12:29 < black-ss_> Now i am using suse 12:30 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.127.240.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 12:30 < black-ss_> I have not check it yet 12:32 < black-ss_> tryagain: I think email is quick and easy to use right now 12:33 < black-ss_> tommow I will lean how to use trac 12:33 < black-ss_> tommow I will learn how to use trac 12:36 < black-ss_> I cannot run saxon in the cmd,seems no saxon installed 12:37 < dandor> hape, ping 12:37 < black-ss_> tryagain: sorry,saxon-6.5.5 has installed in the suse linux 12:41 < dandor> Mineque, ping 12:41 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:42 < curious> hmm, bit offtopic question, where is the navit.xml file on winCE devices ? can it be modified without synCE/put on sd card? 12:45 < curious> hmm. and does it make any sense to try to install to winCE device with just 32M of ram ? 12:50 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.127.240.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50 < Mineque> dandor_logger: pong 12:50 < Mineque> uh 12:52 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.127.24.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 12:53 < Mineque> dandor: ? 12:53 < dandor> hi Mineque 12:53 < Mineque> hi 12:54 < dandor> can you pls help me again loggin in to the trac site again with the wiki user? 12:54 < dandor> i forgot the link to paste 12:54 < Mineque> it doesnt work either with correct link 12:54 < dandor> aaargh 12:54 < Mineque> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:dandor 12:54 < Mineque> sth like that 12:55 < Mineque> but few peoples reported as doesnt working 12:55 < dandor> +1 12:55 < dandor> for me it also disfunctional 12:56 < black-ss_> tryagain: when compile, I always got a lot of such info: arm-mingw32ce-gcc: unrecognized option '-pthread', is it OK? 12:56 < Mineque> nice, at least it's not "for me it's working" ;] 12:56 < dandor> :D 12:56 < dandor> i don't know which is the better :) 12:58 < dandor> Mineque, i have a little patch for the command system to enable string concatenation operator 12:58 < dandor> so you can do "string1" +"string2" +"string3" 12:59 < dandor> can you test it? 12:59 < dandor> or you can do : 13:00 < dandor> set_attr_var("TESTVAR","TEST3") ; 13:00 < dandor> then use it like this: "string1" +"string2" +"string3" + get_attr_var("TESTVAR") 13:01 < Mineque> dandor: svn? 13:01 < dandor> can be usefull to generate image names or anything else where strings are used 13:01 < black-ss_> tryagain: this time do as you told the configure way. I connot svn the latest version quickly,so I use 4506, such error: xpm2bmp.c:5:23: error: glib/glib.h: No such file or directory 13:01 < dandor> i don't want to commit it without testing and review 13:01 < Mineque> so i have to patch? 13:02 < dandor> yep if you can do it 13:02 < Mineque> please mail it to me, but i'll test it at night 13:03 < Mineque> becasuse i dont have access to linux box currently 13:03 < Mineque> i'll answer you in the mornining 13:03 < Mineque> if that's fine for you 13:03 < dandor> no problem, i will send you a test osd i used 13:03 < Mineque> ok great 13:04 < dandor> but you can use it in any command where strings are used 13:09 -!- bzed [~bzed@2001:470:1f0b:168f::2] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:09 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has joined #navit 13:09 -!- black-ss_ [7b067af3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.6.122.243] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:18 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@chello080109110017.13.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #navit 13:20 < curious> nah, main dir obviously 13:35 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.127.24.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:39 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 14:03 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 14:07 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 14:51 < curious> hum, trying to install on lark 50.1 , but it crashes with 'serious error' right away :( 14:54 -!- sera_ [~sera@104-43.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:03 -!- panfist [~stachursk@c-68-46-148-31.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:06 < curious> yay, disabled gps port and it started 15:08 -!- sera_ [~sera@211-55.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 15:09 < curious> hmm, i used wince:com1: and baudrate 4800, and it seems to be valid for this device (checked in other soft) 15:16 < curious> ah 15:21 < curious> hmm. neither source="serial: .... nor wince: works 15:33 < curious> hmm, log does not report anything ununsual 15:33 < curious> it wince_reader_theread:GPS Port:[COM1:] and then two lines related with gfx 16:01 < curious> ah! 16:01 < curious> and the example on navit wiki has /> 16:02 < curious> now it works :D 16:05 < curious> hmm, i wonder how it detects screen dimensions 16:06 < curious> it looks like something is broken, esp. in 3d view, like it assumed much larger display 16:08 < curious> and stuff like scrollbars are not visible @ all 16:14 < curious> ugh.. and how to set up destination ? :D 16:14 < curious> it's all terribly slow :S 16:15 < curious> even menu 'thinks' like 0.5 sec after click 16:15 < curious> scrolling map is like... move... 10 seconds ... :S 16:19 < curious> found 16:46 < antenna1> I set the destination to Ringkobig/Denmark, but navit doesn't find a route. Cities near to this destination are not found as well. Is that an osm problem? 17:12 -!- hape [~hape@open7x0.xnc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:17 -!- hape [~hape@open7x0.xnc.de] has joined #navit 17:22 < curious> antenna1, try just pointing to location on the map 17:24 < antenna1> curious: I did, many times. 17:24 < curious> and it fails to find route aswell? 17:25 < curious> all what comes to my mind is trying to route to some closer destination 17:25 < curious> and checking since which distance problem starts to occur 17:28 < antenna1> curious: well I found a point near to it ( some km) where it works. And some 100 meters further the problem occurs again. The route distance is > 850km 17:28 < antenna1> this may be the problem 17:30 < curious> check with some osm edit tool like josm or merkaartor if streets are connected 17:30 < curious> sometimes streets are 'laid' but their ending points are disconnected 17:40 < antenna1> curious: I searched for those empty ending points by eye, but in my case it's on the same street, really. I can give you the exact position, if you want to. 17:45 < curious> i'm sorry , but i'm bit busy atm 17:46 < curious> trying to understand internal gui layout configuration, on my dev screen seems to be 'oversized' and some things fall out of device 17:53 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.125.235.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 17:54 < curious> damn, i can't find it 17:58 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.125.235.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 18:10 -!- Fragle [Fragle@dslb-188-096-168-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 18:14 -!- Fragle^essen [Fragle@dslb-188-108-113-202.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 18:14 -!- Fragle^essen [Fragle@dslb-188-108-113-202.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:17 -!- Fragle [Fragle@dslb-188-096-168-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17 < curious> hmm, btw. any ideas of 'lock' option? (so any click on the display will not bring up menu, usefull when gps is i.e. kept in bag) 18:24 -!- 92AADBTNS [~dandor@91.83.125.132.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 18:37 -!- 92AADBTNS [~dandor@91.83.125.132.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:01 -!- seb_ [b26c4872@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.108.72.114] has joined #navit 19:14 < curious> hmm, the town search has no country icon for me at all 19:14 < curious> i see in wiki it has some issues, i've used latest svn build 19:39 -!- seb_ [b26c4872@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.108.72.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:52 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@chello080109110017.13.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]] 19:55 -!- OLiverr [bouncer@www.siedler25.org] has left #navit ["Verlassend"] 20:37 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-094-217-206-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 20:45 < curious> hmm, i've created osd entry like : 20:45 < curious> 20:46 < curious> it is displayed,but it makes no difference, should i do it some other way? 20:49 -!- bzed_ [~bzed@2001:470:1f0b:168f::2] has joined #navit 20:51 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:51 -!- bzed_ is now known as bzed 20:52 < curious> hmm, found the 'on some graphic drivers the default resolution is 800x600 like sdl' but with win32 it doesn't seem to change anything 21:01 -!- bzed [~bzed@2001:470:1f0b:168f::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has joined #navit 21:05 -!- yeti60 [~boye@178-26-8-238-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #navit 21:18 -!- korrosa [~netbook@78.149.2.243] has joined #navit 21:19 < korrosa> curious: will disable displaying the menu when the screen is touched. 21:19 < korrosa> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit/Full_list_of_options 21:20 < curious> yes, i found that 21:20 < curious> but as above, it does not work from osd button 21:21 < curious> i want to use it to create two buttons, one to lock display, and one to unlock it 21:21 < curious> so accidental touch in i.e. bag will not jump into menu 21:22 < korrosa> Hm, OK. 21:22 < korrosa> Perhaps it works like the fullscreen command? command='gui.fullscreen=!gui.fullscreen' ? 21:22 < korrosa> command='gui.menu_on_map_click=!gui.menu_on_map_click' 21:23 < korrosa> Never tried this - certainly a fringe use-case! 21:28 < curious> trying 21:28 < curious> works! 21:28 < curious> thx 21:30 -!- sera_ [~sera@211-55.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:40 -!- yeti60 [~boye@178-26-8-238-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #navit [] 21:40 < curious> hmm, ad wince and osd - is there something to display battery level? 21:42 -!- sera_ [~sera@66-38.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 21:45 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:45 < korrosa> curious: Not from Navit, no. 21:51 < curious> hmm, now i'm trying to add display of street name... copied & pasted line trying to display $(navigation.item.street.name) from windows mobile vga1 osd layout 21:52 < curious> but it displays nothing 21:52 < curious> just the 'onto / ' , so the text display works , but somehow street names are blank 21:53 < curious> ofc i've set position and dest, and route got calculated, speech synth even uttered something 21:54 -!- tryagain [d9962aec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.236] has joined #navit 21:55 < curious> do i need to enable anything else for those variables getting read? 21:59 < tryagain> dandor if you read logs - there's strjoin command for string concatenation, see navit.c line 1278. 22:01 < tryagain> Mineque see above before commiting dandor's patch 22:05 < curious> hmm, distance remaining does not get updated aswell 22:05 < curious> i hope this is just because i have no gps fix 22:07 < korrosa> tryagain: Mineque doesn't have commit rights. The only people that do and are routinely active is woglinde and Number6. 22:07 < tryagain> got it 22:07 < korrosa> Actually, I think dandor may have rights too. 22:08 < tryagain> from logs, it seems danodr has, not Mineque. 22:09 < korrosa> Yup! 22:10 < korrosa> curious: For me in demo mode, Navit does update the distance remaining. 22:10 < korrosa> This is on Linux. 22:12 < curious> i'll go on short walk then ... btw. any ideas how to resolve lack of country flag in search menu ? 22:13 < tryagain> he's on WinCE? I'm not sure that we have support of demo vehicle on WinCE, second of suggested ways to build it on http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Compiling_Navit_for_WinCE/WinMobile disables demo vehicle. 22:13 < curious> navit defaults to .us, but i live bordering with 3 countries, so switching inbetween them would be usefull for me 22:14 < curious> i use latest svn build , and wiki suggests if flag is missing there is some issue with build.. 22:14 < tryagain> curious You should have a bunch of country_*.png files in xpm folder to display country flags, have you? 22:16 < curious> yes 22:17 < tryagain> What do you have for country_US_*.png. There should be 8_8, 16_16, 48_48, 96_96. 22:18 < curious> hmm, just 16_16 22:18 < tryagain> try to copy it to the rest of names needed 22:20 < curious> hmm, can i just change icon config in gui type="internal" 22:20 < curious> ? 22:22 < tryagain> if I remember well then icon size is choosen automagicaly based on screen resolution. Well. It may be sufficient to copy that file to country_US.png to get autosized icons for missing files. 22:23 < curious> ah, thx. 22:25 < korrosa> ping KaZeR 22:26 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34 < Mineque> tryagain: np i dont have commit permissions 22:35 < tryagain> got it 22:42 < korrosa> Mineque: KaZeR not been around yet - the trac and wiki login problem is a real... well, problem! 22:43 < curious> got back from walk, got fix and then road names, distance remaining etc. get updated 22:45 < curious> btw. can it be work-around if someone plans route inside building , without fix, or just plainly from different destination than gps reports? 22:45 < curious> and uh, icons of 'next turn' are garbage 22:48 < Mineque> korrosa: i'll kick him in the morning to fix or give sb power ;] 22:48 < Mineque> i'll phone him 22:49 < korrosa> Ooooh, someone's got a real-life friend...!! 22:50 < Mineque> navit...connecting people 22:54 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has joined #navit 22:54 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has left #navit [] 22:57 < tryagain> black-ss_ if you read logs... http://sourceforge.net/projects/navit/forums/forum/512960/topic/4576161/index/page/ updated 22:58 < tryagain> gn all 22:58 -!- tryagain [d9962aec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.236] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:01 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has joined #navit 23:01 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has left #navit [] 23:04 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has joined #navit 23:04 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has left #navit [] 23:04 < curious> ok copied flag icons and now they display 23:05 < curious> another problem, i have no way to scroll search results 23:06 < curious> i.e. streets display as list, but there are no buttons for scrolling 23:06 -!- korrosa [~netbook@78.149.2.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:09 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has joined #navit 23:18 < curious> well, this is not so important actually 23:18 * curious plays with different profiles 23:19 < curious> can surface:condition or smoothnes tags be included in vehicle profile preferences? 23:19 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@85.8.75.116] has left #navit [] 23:22 < curious> hum, though actually... one cannot scroll aswell in menus such as 'bookmarks' which is serious con --- Log closed Mon Jun 20 00:00:37 2011