--- Log opened Fri Jun 24 00:00:37 2011 00:02 < brim4brim> Hi Everyone, I don't know if anyone remembers me but I was on a day or two ago about navit and Loc8 supporting it 00:03 < brim4brim> Well good news is that the owner of Loc8 has passed the information on to his development team for inclusion in their Point8 app which they will be releasing for Android in the coming months 00:04 < brim4brim> So it should be that currently the most popular privately owned post code system favored to become the national post code system for Ireland will be able to support sending lat/longs to Navit :D 00:05 < brim4brim> for anyone that wasn't here earlier, we don't have postcodes yet in Ireland and this is a private company trying to fix that :P 00:07 <@cp15_> Nice, and thank you 00:28 < brim4brim> np I use Navit so I will benefit if it happens :) 00:29 < brim4brim> I owe everyone here a thank you for the trouble free navigation I've got on my X8. I recommend Navit to everyone I meet with a Smartphone :) 00:35 <@cp15_> Oh :-) Thanks 00:43 -!- Morphous_ [jan@f048131043.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:50 -!- brim4brim [~maherb@89.126.6.186] has left #navit [] 01:00 -!- Morphous_ [jan@f048000236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:06 -!- noradtux [~quassel@g224053103.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:08 -!- noradtux [~quassel@f054019079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:34 -!- cp15 [igherf@p57B1CAD9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:35 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 03:39 -!- cp15_ [dvpzbh@p57B1C9D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:29 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-188-105-192-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:30 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-002-182-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 05:58 <@Horwitz> morgen 06:05 -!- Statler [~georg@62.206.124.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 08:10 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:14 -!- goldfndr__ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-206-34.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #navit 08:15 -!- goldfndr_ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-206-47.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:16 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@82.220.1.196] has joined #navit 08:21 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@82.220.1.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36 -!- Zaba [~zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has joined #navit 08:39 < Zaba> hey guys, I seem to be running into some manifestation of bug #456. I get "navit:route_path_new:no route found, pos blocked" on the console when the route gets longer than a certain distance. Running navit from debian testing (0.5.0~svn4494+dfsg.1-1). 08:40 < Zaba> is there something I could do to make it calculate the route better? 09:03 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has joined #navit 09:13 -!- woglinde [~heinold@f052234168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 09:36 < Number6> Morning 09:36 < Number6> Zaba: What svn version are you using? 09:36 < woglinde> hi number6 09:37 < Number6> Oh, you said Zaba :-) 09:37 < Number6> Sorry, I need my morning coffee 09:37 < Number6> Hi woglinde 09:38 < Number6> Zaba: If you look at http://trac.navit-project.org/attachment/ticket/456/route.c.diff , you can see a patch 09:38 < Number6> It will not apply cleanly, so you'll need to find where is says 40000 and 10000 and replace them 09:52 -!- sera_ [~sera@120-40.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 09:55 -!- sera [~sera@78-140.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:05 < Zaba> Number6, has the issue been fixed in newer svn revisions? 10:06 < Number6> Zaba: In Revision 4536, another road type was added. This increases the routing distances in some cases 10:06 < Number6> You'll need to recompute your map 10:07 < Zaba> I'm using maps from maps.navit-project.org 10:08 < Zaba> also, I'd really like to stick to debian packages of navit if they can work.. building stuff on a netbook would be rather slow 10:08 < Zaba> I guess the same applies to building maps using maptool 10:09 -!- korrosa [c30285b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.2.133.182] has joined #navit 10:09 < korrosa> Zaba: I use Navit on a netbook, and compile both the program and maps myself. 10:10 < korrosa> Compiling Navit first time round does take a while (~30 mins) due to image processing. However, afterwards re-compiling is fairly fast (<10 mins) 10:11 < korrosa> To compile a map of Great Britain takes approximately 15 minutes. 10:12 < Number6> korrosa: use "make -j" instead of "make" 10:12 < Zaba> how up-to-date are the maps from maps.navit-project.org? 10:12 < Number6> Zaba: The 13th is the last update 10:12 < Number6> It'll speed up the compilation, at the expense of system performance for other tasks, korrosa 10:16 < Zaba> 13th? 10:16 < Number6> Zaba: Yes, the 13th of June 10:16 < Zaba> ah 10:16 < Zaba> well, does it feature that new road type you've mentioned? 10:16 < Number6> What country are you looking for? 10:16 < Number6> No, I'm afraid not 10:17 < Zaba> well, the revision I'm running doesn't have them, either, so it seems fair 10:28 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 10:31 <@cp15> Zaba, normally the maps are updated daily, but we moved to a new server and there are still a few things not working 10:31 < Zaba> I se 10:31 < Zaba> +e 10:35 < Zaba> Number6, is the patch for issue #456 still relevant even for newest svn revisions? 10:36 < Number6> Zaba: Maybe not, it depends on your situation :-) 10:36 < Number6> It works for me, doing longdistance routing 10:47 < Zaba> the maps on maps.navit-project.org will be updated with the new road type, eventually? 10:47 < Number6> Yeah, as soon as the new server is working 10:47 < Number6> What country are you looking for? 10:48 < Zaba> the 'western europe' predefined area is what I have 10:49 < Number6> Ah, right. That might be a bit too big for me to compute for you :-) 10:53 < Zaba> the long-distance routing issue seems to be fairly frequent, though; is there no official fix for it yet? 10:54 < Number6> There are a number of factors that can affect long distance routing. Mainly the road types, and how much RAM was can use for the routing table 10:55 < Number6> So we're a bit conservative on the routing numbers, as we need low powered devices (most in car GPS accessories) to be able to work 10:55 < Zaba> well, here I can't even make it route a substantial distance out of a city 10:55 < Zaba> would be nice to have it configurable... 10:55 <@cp15> Zaba, I assume there is no highway or bigger road close to your city? 10:56 < Zaba> well, it routes into a highway, but beyond a certain distance at a single highway it gives up with "no route found, pos blocked" 10:56 < Zaba> and yes, it even needn't be complicated---it can route to some distance but not a longer one on the same road 10:57 <@cp15> Can you give me some info where this happens? 10:57 < Zaba> well, I'm testing with st. petersburg, in russia, as the position 10:58 < Zaba> and anywhere from northwest from north as the destination 10:58 < Zaba> for example, A-123 10:59 < Zaba> it seems to be able to route along it up to some point but fail later 10:59 < Zaba> that is, when the distance is larger 10:59 < Number6> How far is the distance? 11:05 <@cp15> I think I know the problem... First of all, is the tagging right? I see a highway ring around st. petersburg, but all other roads are of lower priority. Is that right? 11:05 -!- sleske [~sleske@p508B3199.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 11:08 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 11:22 < drlizau> Zaba I know your problem well 11:22 < drlizau> There is code which routes around cities 11:23 < drlizau> if you cannot make a route without going through a city you get 'no route, pos blocked' 11:23 < drlizau> Could you experiment to see if routing sometimes takes very long out of the way routes? 11:24 < antenna1> korrosa: are you already on your journey? 11:24 < Number6> drlizau: That's not fully true. Navit will route me through cities if no other route is available 11:25 < drlizau> I challenge you to get a route from Sydney to Adelaide (Australia) then 11:25 < drlizau> I can't even route one quarter fo the distance, and even then it takes me hundreds of km out of my way. 11:25 < Number6> Challenge accepted! 11:26 < Zaba> cp15, yes, that's right 11:26 < Zaba> sorry, I was away. 11:26 < drlizau> I last downloaded a svn navit about the beginning of the month. 11:26 < Zaba> cp15, it has no problem routing outside the city up until some point 11:27 < drlizau> Zaba, i can route from my home for about 200km 11:27 < Zaba> cp15, that is, it can cross that ring highway just fine, but not go very far from it, it seems 11:27 < drlizau> Once past 250km there are position blocked notes 11:28 < Zaba> hrm.. is there some way to make navit dump position and destination coordinates? 11:28 < drlizau> Then I get closer to my destination as I drive along and finally the routing works 11:28 < drlizau> Zaba check ~/.navit/destination.txt 11:31 < Zaba> cp15, it can calculate a route from st. petersburg to the nearby сестрорецк just fine, for example, and even quite a lot farther. But not much farther. 11:31 < Zaba> st. petersburg -> helsinki gives me pos blocked, for example :> 11:32 < Zaba> or st. petersburg -> many points along A-123, as a less extreme example 11:32 <@cp15> Ok, can you route from the farest point where it works to the next point where it doesn't? 11:33 < Zaba> piece by piece, yes, seems so 11:34 < sleske> cp15: Hi! 11:34 < Zaba> indeed, I can 11:34 < sleske> cp15: I started work on the "recent destinations" feature we talked about. Can I ask you some questions? 11:35 <@cp15> Of course not ;-) 11:36 <@cp15> What do you want to know? 11:36 < sleske> cp15: Thanks :-). Well, I 11:37 < sleske> cp15: .. am starting to find my way about the sources. I am trying to model my new code on the bookmarks code in gui_internal.c 11:37 < sleske> cp15: So I figured I 11:38 <@cp15> Already a good start, since they are quite similar 11:38 < sleske> cp15: should implement something like gui_internal_cmd_bookmarks. However, I have trouble understanding the signature. 11:38 < sleske> cp15: gui_internal_cmd_bookmarks(struct gui_priv *this, struct widget *wm, void *data) 11:39 < sleske> cp15: gui_priv is just the standard handle to all the GUI stuff, that makes sense. But what is the widget for (why does the bookmark list need a widget), and what is data? It's apparently used to implement subfolders? 11:40 < korrosa> antenna1: No, not yet. 11:41 <@cp15> widget is a handle to the widget that called the bookmark command, data is a pointer to additional information supplied by the calling widget 11:41 < Zaba> cp15, what conclusion can I draw from the fact it can calculate the route part by part, but not all at once? 11:42 < sleske> cp15: Ah, thanks. Is this some kind of "generic" signature, because of the callback system used to call it? So all the methods must have the same signature? 11:43 <@cp15> That the long-distance priority that navit (or better the map generation) to this road assings is too low 11:43 < Number6> drlizau: Done 11:43 < Number6> Routed without any issue 11:43 <@cp15> sleske, yes, exactly 11:43 < sleske> cp15: Thanks. I feel I 11:44 < sleske> cp15: am beginning to understand things :-). 11:45 < Zaba> cp15, is there anything I could do about that? 11:45 <@cp15> Some further explanation... The bookmarks command calls itself when the user opens a new folder and data points to the name of the folder then 11:45 < Number6> drlizau: http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~number6/Screenshot-Navit.png 11:46 <@cp15> Zaba, do you have a linux machine? How much ram does it have? 11:46 < Zaba> yes, my netbook, with 4GB of RAM 11:46 <@cp15> A netbook with 4GB? Wow :-) 11:46 < Zaba> that's what I'm currently using navit on, too 11:48 <@cp15> Does St. Petersburg still belong to europe? 11:48 < sleske> cp15: Thanks, that makes sense. I already noticed that gui_internal_cmd_bookmarks calls itself. Now I know why. 11:48 < Zaba> cp15, for geographical purposes, yes 11:49 < sleske> cp15: Common agreement is that Europe extends to the Ural mountains, and St. Petersburg is west of the Ural. 11:50 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 11:50 <@cp15> Ok, then please download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/russia-european-part.osm.bz2, create a navit map out of it with bzcat russia-european-part.osm.bz2 | maptool mymap.bin and verify that the error still exists in mymap.bin. 11:51 < Zaba> downloading 11:54 < Number6> drlizau: I can also route from Sydney to Perth. No modifications, just a fresh svn co and a selef generated map of Oz 11:57 < Number6> s/selef/self 12:01 < woglinde> re 12:03 < drlizau> Number6: I can't get out of Sydney 12:04 < Number6> drlizau: svn up, download Australia from http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/australia-oceania.osm.bz2 12:04 < Number6> Wait.. I have Oz computed. Give me a sec, I'll give you a link to my version 12:04 < Zaba> cp15, I get a lot of warnings, is that normal? 12:05 < korrosa> Zaba: Lots of warnings are normal when I compile! 12:05 < Zaba> okay 12:06 < woglinde> korrosa we should fix them 12:06 < Zaba> OSM Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/0 turn restriction: via member missing 12:06 < Zaba> and similar 12:06 < woglinde> hm reminds me to get libshape into extra stuff 12:06 < korrosa> Zaba: Yup, that's 'normal'. 12:06 < drlizau> Number6: http://pastebin.com/dJ1yyGqC 12:06 < korrosa> woglinde: You forget "I can't code"! 12:07 < woglinde> learn it 12:07 < drlizau> REviewing that as it flashed through trying to copy to the clipboard i see that is is doing circuits around central sydney 12:07 < woglinde> instead putting you head out of trainwindows 12:07 < drlizau> going under the harbour through the tunnel and then returnign over the harbour bridge 12:08 < Number6> drlizau: compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~number6/oz.bin <-- try that. It's just over 100MB big 12:08 < drlizau> source of data - download from navit site 11th June. 12:08 < drlizau> Data from same date in garmin format is routable on my garmin device 12:08 < Number6> drlizau: That data is too old, download that file. It's 10 minutes old :-) 12:09 < drlizau> the data is not the problem - the same stuff will run on the garmin 12:10 < drlizau> that stuff from you will take another 25mint o arrive here 12:10 < Number6> 25 minutes to download 100MB... Jesus 12:10 < Zaba> cp15, well, it has the same issue with my manually generated map. 12:11 < Zaba> cp15, guess I should try navit/maptool built from svn? 12:11 -!- goldfndr__ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-206-34.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11 < drlizau> its a long way from Ireland 12:12 < drlizau> I don't know where the holdup is, but iceweasel still says 30 min 12:12 < korrosa> woglinde: Lol!! 12:12 < drlizau> its going backwards 12:13 <@cp15> Zaba, yes 12:13 <@cp15> I see Number6 has already done a fix in there, but it might be a bit too hefty, creating larger and slower maps 12:14 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14 -!- goldfndr__ [~goldfndr@h-67-101-5-194.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #navit 12:14 < Number6> cp15: Adding the highway? The increase in size isn't large 12:23 <@cp15> Number of tiles larger than 1 MB (which is horribly large) in planet-110613 89 12:24 <@cp15> In planet-110624 213 12:24 -!- woglinde [~heinold@f052234168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:24 <@cp15> That will give a considerably slowdown on everything 12:26 -!- chollya [~chollya@2a02:7200:0:3::150] has joined #navit 12:26 < Number6> I didn't notice any huge slowdown on my WinCE device - and that's fairly shit 12:27 < Number6> Is there any other way we can do this? 12:28 <@cp15> On which areas have you tested it? If you just used ireland the effect is probably not so dramatic 12:28 <@cp15> Well, the 8 level is surely too low for street4, we have to find the highest level between 12 and 8 were routing works 12:28 < Zaba> cp15, I'll now generate a map with maptool from svn 12:29 <@cp15> Ok 12:29 < Number6> Ireland, UK, Spain and now Oz 12:29 < Zaba> and then check with a navit from svn whether the issue persists 12:29 < Zaba> unless my netbook overheats while generating the map :> 12:29 <@cp15> Zaba, navit version isn't that important 12:30 < Zaba> ok 12:38 < sleske> bye! 12:38 -!- sleske [~sleske@p508B3199.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:39 < Zaba> cp15, it works with a map generated with maptool from svn 12:39 < drlizau> Number6: OK, it will route the distance 12:39 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@f052234168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 12:39 < drlizau> what is the key? 12:39 < drlizau> why is your map different? 12:39 < woglinde_> re 12:40 < Zaba> cp15, for the case where it failed previously, and many others, anyway, but still not all, it seems. 12:41 < Zaba> I think the presence of vyborg confuses it 12:41 <@cp15> vyborg? 12:41 < Zaba> I can route to some parts of M-10, but not others 12:41 < Zaba> Выборг/vyborg, a city near the russian-finnish border 12:42 <@cp15> Ok, we will check that later 12:42 < Zaba> it generates a route from SPb to the part of M-10 close to vyborg just fine, but not to a part from M-10 close to the finnish border 12:42 <@cp15> First I have an optimization task to do for you 12:42 < Zaba> even though they are the same road 12:43 < Zaba> I suspect it's because for the former case it goes through vyborg, quite logically, and in the latter it tries to go around. Which, speaking from practice, is perfectly adequate and normal, but for some reason it fails. 12:44 < drlizau> Number6: my demo vehicle is lost in central Sydney and doing circuits at a major junction 12:45 < drlizau> so I'm not going to get to Adelaide 12:46 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:47 <@cp15> Zaba, can you apply this diff http://pastebin.com/nSsqGAs9 to maptool, recreate the map and check whether that what worked now still works? 12:49 < drlizau> http://pastebin.com/rb0tm8nq is the repeating terminal output 12:50 < Zaba> regenerating now 13:03 < Zaba> cp15, with that patch, it fails just like with the non-latest-svn version 13:03 < Zaba> that is, like with the map from maps.navit-project.org 13:03 < Zaba> that is, it can't route far 13:04 < Zaba> damn, so many clarifications 13:04 <@cp15> Ok, then change max=11 to max=10 and try again 13:05 < drlizau> I've got mine on a 870km route at present, but at 40kmh the demo car is going to take a long while to get there 13:05 < drlizau> i'll have a sleep while robo-driver takes me to Adelaide from Griffith 13:05 < Zaba> okay, regenerating again 13:08 < Zaba> cp15, the version of navit itself doesn't matter, right? I've been testing it all with the one from the debian package, not svn 13:10 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 13:10 -!- 17WAAOEEW [~quassel@77-56-73-44.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #navit 13:10 <@cp15> Yes, doesn't matter 13:10 -!- woglinde1 [~heinold@g229045113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 13:13 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@f052234168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:14 < Zaba> cp15, ok, with max=10, it works for some long distances, but not all that worked with latest svn without patches 13:16 -!- korrosa [c30285b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.2.133.182] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:17 <@cp15> For how many it doesn't work? 13:17 <@cp15> Compared to latest svn? 13:17 < Zaba> well, it can't reach the part of M-10 that's close to vyborg---it could with svn 13:17 < Zaba> but it can reach vyborg itself 13:18 <@cp15> Ok, then we have to optimize navit also... Now you need a self compiled version of it 13:18 < Zaba> I've already got that 13:18 < woglinde1> cp15 hm what would be the way to get in vehicle_gpsd if logging is enabled or not? 13:19 < Zaba> cp15, what should I change in navit itself? And should I revert the change to maptool? 13:19 -!- 17WAAOEEW is now known as skamster 13:19 <@cp15> No, keep this change 13:22 <@cp15> Zaba, in route.c change route_rect(4, to route_rect(5, 13:25 < Zaba> hmm.. 13:26 < woglinde1> cp15 do you have a win ce device? 13:26 < Zaba> cp15, when starting navit from the build directory, I get http://sprunge.us/CJah 13:27 < woglinde1> zaba you are missing the plugin libs 13:27 < Zaba> ah.. 13:27 < woglinde1> check you config.log 13:27 < woglinde1> seems you didnt build for any gui or vehicle 13:28 < woglinde1> and even no map 13:28 < Zaba> it's just not looking in the build directory for them, that's why 13:30 <@cp15> woglinde1, yes 13:30 <@cp15> I don't understand the gpsd question 13:30 < Zaba> NAVIT_LIBDIR=navit/ NAVIT_LIBPREFIX='/*/.libs/' makes it work 13:30 < woglinde1> cp15 which one? 13:30 < Zaba> somehow 13:31 < woglinde1> cp15 could you test the patches from here 13:31 < woglinde1> they looks a bit better than the stuff we did to ce 13:31 < woglinde1> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/554 13:32 < Zaba> cp15, okay, with maptool and navit from svn and patched as per your suggestions, it starts being able to route that far again 13:32 < Zaba> but still not much farther.. 13:33 < Zaba> but it doesn't seem to be worse than non-patched maptool from svn and navit from debian testing, at least 13:36 <@cp15> Ok, I will commit the maptool patch first 13:37 < woglinde1> cp15 reverting dandors patch from tryagain? 13:38 < CIA-85> martin-s * r4537 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/misc.c: Fix:maptool:Reduce priority of street_4 a bit 13:39 < woglinde1> hm okay 14:01 -!- chollya [~chollya@2a02:7200:0:3::150] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:03 -!- chollya [~chollya@2a02:7200:0:3::150] has joined #navit 14:24 -!- Prz_^ [~ju@231.109.103.84.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 14:44 -!- chollya [~chollya@2a02:7200:0:3::150] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:34 -!- woglinde1 is now known as woglinde 15:35 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:37 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 15:42 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:44 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 15:51 -!- tryagain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has joined #navit 15:52 -!- antenna1 [~antenna1@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 15:55 < curious> hmm, btw. anyone wants the navit.xml config optimised for use for bike (with 2 additional vehicle profiles, one shortest path, and one traffic avoiding one) on lark wince unit? 15:56 < curious> with minimalist osd layout (just dr , odo, streets and few buttons for zooming and locking display) 16:09 -!- skamster [~quassel@77-56-73-44.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14 < tryagain> cp15 Patch for street4 is from http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/876. It also significantly improved routing for Russia. We have only a minimal set of roads which can be tagged with highway=motorway, most of backbone roads are just highway=trunk. As the latter translates to street4 by osm.c, I've rised their level to the one of motorways. The same is probably true for Australia, see my excepts from OSM wiki in trac ticket. 16:16 < tryagain> Making highway=trunk unavaliable for routing on arbitrary distances will break Navit usability for distant routing in Russia. 16:20 -!- antenna1 [~antenna1@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:32 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 16:32 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 16:33 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 16:34 -!- Ziaou [~Ziaou@93.169.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 16:35 -!- Ziaou [~Ziaou@93.169.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 16:42 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:44 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 16:48 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:49 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 16:53 -!- Prz_^ [~ju@231.109.103.84.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:05 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:05 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 17:11 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26 -!- Ziaou [~Ziaou@93.169.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 17:26 -!- Ziaou [~Ziaou@93.169.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 17:44 -!- udovdh_ [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 17:44 -!- udovdh_ [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:52 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has joined #navit 17:55 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@chello080109110017.13.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #navit 18:15 -!- tryagain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:41 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 18:44 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@chello080109110017.13.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]] 18:47 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:00 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 19:21 -!- Zaba [~zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:24 -!- Zaba [~zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has joined #navit 19:31 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:36 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 19:52 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:03 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:10 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 20:23 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:27 < antenna1> navit crashes quite often while setting a destination; can sb confirm that? 20:27 < woglinde> uhm 20:27 < woglinde> please 20:27 < woglinde> make gdb backtraces 20:27 < woglinde> and provide them 20:30 < antenna1> woglinde: how can I get these backtraces? 20:31 < antenna1> gdb is installed 20:31 < woglinde> from console 20:31 < woglinde> if it is crashing 20:31 < woglinde> you get an automagic log 20:31 < woglinde> even better is when you compile with CFLAGS="-ggdb 2" 20:32 < woglinde> and dont strip the binaries 20:33 < antenna1> do you mean to run navit or gdb from console? I assume that log is in the console as well? 20:33 < woglinde> navit from console 20:34 < woglinde> yes 20:34 < woglinde> you could set a logfile too 20:35 < antenna1> navit > logfile.txt? 20:35 < woglinde> no 20:35 < woglinde> via NAVIT_DEBUG= env variable 20:36 < antenna1> what to do if it hangs now? Should I force quit? 20:37 < antenna1> that's probably going to be important for you: 20:37 < antenna1> *** glibc detected *** navit: double free or corruption (out): 0x00000000021d3fc0 *** 20:37 < woglinde> pastebin 20:39 < antenna1> sorry, I posted that glib line twice, only the last one counts: 20:39 < antenna1> http://pastebin.com/rMEmwVKp 20:40 < woglinde> hm nothing more? 20:42 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:42 < antenna1> nothing that matters I guess, only that I used some accesskeys, oh and it failed creating the attribute autozoom_secs with value 20 20:43 < woglinde> hm could you change the debug option in navit.xml 20:43 < woglinde> so it stays in gdb 20:43 < woglinde> and run bt manually 20:45 -!- Statler [~georg@62.206.124.230] has joined #navit 20:45 < antenna1> how to do that? and what's bt? 20:46 < antenna1> do you mean to enable the log? 20:46 < antenna1> but how can I make it to stay in gdb? 20:47 < woglinde> bt is the short version for backtrace inside gdb 20:47 < woglinde> 20:47 < woglinde> 20:48 < woglinde> or start gdb navit 20:48 < woglinde> run 20:48 < woglinde> and if it is crashing 20:48 < woglinde> do bt 20:54 < antenna1> well, how can I do bt? 20:55 < antenna1> I set the level to 2 now 20:55 < woglinde> ? 20:55 < woglinde> hm better user the other approach 20:55 < woglinde> start navit via gdb 20:55 < woglinde> gdb navit 20:55 < woglinde> run 20:58 < antenna1> ok, I did, but in the console there is not more information. Again there is glibc detected and a different code 20:58 < woglinde> ? 20:58 < woglinde> does the crash occur or not 20:58 < woglinde> if yes 20:58 < woglinde> type bt or backtrace 20:58 < antenna1> it hangs up 20:59 < woglinde> hm 20:59 < woglinde> disable the segv stuff 20:59 < woglinde> again 20:59 < woglinde> try 0 20:59 < antenna1> ok 20:59 < antenna1> it's not gdb hanging up, it navit; 21:00 < antenna1> then I stopped navit with ctrl c and got back to the gdb console 21:00 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:01 < antenna1> that's what I got: 21:01 < antenna1> http://pastebin.com/GrRj0dmN 21:02 < antenna1> do you still want to me to set segv to zero? 21:02 < woglinde> yes 21:02 < woglinde> this dont helps for the double free 21:05 < antenna1> alright, set to zero:http://pastebin.com/hA4k2dZQ 21:06 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 21:07 < antenna1> woglinde: sorry, I meant it's not crashing, but freezing, it just hangs up 21:09 < woglinde> yes 21:09 < woglinde> so this is diffrent from the doublefree 21:10 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10 < woglinde> hm is this with your two maps? 21:13 < antenna1> nope, only one map, but several csv files; this used to happen for a long time now. We already talked about that one, do you remember? 21:13 < woglinde> I remember dark we already were at the bt stage 21:14 < woglinde> why you forgot how to use gdb 21:14 < woglinde> *g* 21:16 < antenna1> last time I didn't use it, I just gave you the output of navit from console. Probably because I didn't understand how you wanted me to use gdb. :) 21:19 < CIA-85> martin-s * r4538 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (maptool.c maptool.h osm.c): Add:maptool:Make adding of unknown country towns an option to avoid bloated index 21:19 < woglinde> hm can you try to disable cvs again 21:23 < antenna1> I did, same issue. After some tries I can get it to freeze. My ram is quite short, maybe that's the problem. 21:24 < antenna1> i will try again 21:26 < woglinde> yes 21:26 < woglinde> that might be a problem 21:27 < antenna1> I set different speedcam attributes in item_def.h, is that a problem? 21:31 < antenna1> well, it's short, but not too. 520 of 750mb used. Still it's freezing 21:32 < antenna1> maybe cp15 know sth about it. http://pastebin.com/t2PWggAX 21:35 < woglinde> is it still freeze on the same code line? 21:39 < antenna1> ? 21:39 < woglinde> *sigh* 21:39 < woglinde> at graphics.c:859 21:39 < woglinde> thats the last codeline inside navit 21:41 < antenna1> yes, it is. 21:41 < antenna1> all the pastes I gave you were specifically for each change 21:51 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:57 <@cp15> antenna1, does the problem also occur with a standard navit.xml? 21:57 < antenna1> cp15 hold on, didn't try that yet 22:06 < antenna1> cp15: I set 15 bookmark destinations and no freeze until now. It really might be my xml, too bad it didn't try until now because I was too lazy. I will clean up my xml and tell you whether is still occurs. Do you want to take a look at it? 22:12 <@cp15> Well, if possible try to find out which change in your navit.xml causes the problem 22:15 -!- tryagain [d9962aec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.236] has joined #navit 22:17 < tryagain> hi 22:17 < tryagain> woglinde there are seem to be bad news for http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/554 (attached to ticket). Did not tried it on WinCE though. 22:26 < woglinde> tryagain cp15 is here too 22:26 < woglinde> today 22:27 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has joined #navit 22:28 < woglinde> hm what about the fullscreen patch? 22:29 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:31 < tryagain> I dislike that fullscreen patch because of aygshell. And it did not apply cleanly, I wasn't tried it to do that by hand. Also it should give no interference with Desktop Windows version, probably will try it on CE. 22:32 < woglinde> it dont apply cleanly because we changed it too 22:36 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 22:38 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40 < tryagain> hm What if we had in vehicleprofile something like this: 22:41 <@cp15> Yes, I also thought about something like this 22:42 < tryagain> If I got the idea, the order is somehow corresponding to level in maptool/misc.c? 22:44 <@cp15> max is the maximum lenght of the tile name 22:44 <@cp15> And order=length of the tile name-4 22:45 < tryagain> ah, got it! -4! 22:46 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-188-099-081-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 22:46 < tryagain> Also we could have also minimalStreetLevel attribute inside to get not all ways from given tile level, but only thouse of class equal or above given. So we can skip less significant ways from route graph even if they are at the same tile level as significant ones. 22:48 <@cp15> That will be hard, since small roads might have also a high tile level (because low tile levels with small amount of data are merged to higher tile levels) 22:49 -!- rd [~rd@p57B496F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58 < tryagain> Probably bad name for minimalStreetLevel. I mean So from tiles of order=4 and larger tiles we will select only streets which are of type street4 or higway. Streets of type street3 and lower will never be taken into account, even if they connect two points, one to the North and one to the South from Equator. 22:59 < tryagain> bed is calling... see you! 23:00 <@cp15> But if you want to route across the equator? 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