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09:09 <@cp15> Good morning
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09:22 < ColdFyre> http://swipe.nokia.com/img/features/feat-bundle3.jpg
09:22 < ColdFyre> ALMOST looks like navit .. a bit
09:44 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4612 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (buffer.c maptool.c maptool.h osm.c tile.c): Fix:maptool:Restartability
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10:04 < korrosa> Morning all: patch to add poi_pub to navit.xml layouts attached at http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/896
10:04 < korrosa> It adds poi_pub to all layouts which have poi_bar defined.
10:06 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4613 /trunk/navit/navit/navit_shipped.xml: Fix:Core:Added poi_pub to rendering|Fixes #896, thanks korrosa
10:09 < korrosa> Ticket closed!
10:22 <@cp15> Thanks
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10:29 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4614 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/maptool.c: Fix:maptool:Make restart work with slices
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11:03 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4615 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (maptool.c maptool.h osm.c): Fix:maptool:Avoid ref counting multiple times in case of restart
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13:00 < antenna1> korrosa: TE article has been edited
13:05 < antenna1> korrosa: sorry, didn't know you knew that already.
13:06 < korrosa> :)
13:09 < korrosa> antenna1: It works successfully for you?
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13:21 < antenna1> korrosa: for cp is does, I'll try right now!
13:23 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4616 /trunk/navit/navit/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add:maptool:Moved town to country resolution to a separate phase
13:29 < antenna1> korrosa: good news for you: http://pastebin.com/fTcYUjuw
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14:08 < antenna1> korrosa: yes, it does work!
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14:29 < korrosa> antenna1: I've added that to the wiki. Thanks!
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14:33 < antenna1> korrosa: does the svn revision for the pub poi update navit.xml in $HOME/.navit?
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14:35 < korrosa> antenna1: No. (Well, it doesn't for me)
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16:00 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4617 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/osm.c: Fix:maptool:Use .tmp suffix for all temporary files
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17:54 < rd> Does anybody know, if navit can handle relations, e.g. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountainbike#Additional_tags_if_a_way_is_part_of_a_MTB_Route_.2F_Relation
17:55 < rd> I would be interested to show MTB and other routes tagged through relations on a navit map.
17:55 < rd> I am not scared of changing maptools somewhat, but it would be nice if an example exists :-)
18:10 <@cp15> I am currently working on better relation support
18:12 <@cp15> But actually it isn't easy... There can be many relations referring many ways... That makes it difficult to handle this in a fast manner
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20:30 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4618 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (boundaries.c maptool.c maptool.h osm.c): Add:maptool:Experimental support for boundary relations
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20:42 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4619 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/geom.c: Fix:maptool:Better calculation of middle point for degenerated polylines
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20:57 <@cp15> tryagain, do you want to do some maptool tests?
20:57 < tryagain> cp15 have you hit the case where len is 0? btw its double...
20:57 < tryagain> what can i do?
20:58 <@cp15> Yep, where a line consists of multiple identical points
20:58 <@cp15> I have added detecting the country from relations instead of the is_in tag
20:58 <@cp15> It can be enabled by a new maptool switch (-E or --experimental)
20:59 <@cp15> Hmm... But it probably makes not too much sense for you since you would need complete countries
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21:00 < tryagain> yes, of course! identical points! But i'd change that if(len) to if(len<1).
21:01 < tryagain> yup I seem not to have enough processing power and bandwidth to do testing here.
21:02 <@cp15> You can do also tests on our server... I am a bit tired now after fiddling around with it the whole day
21:02 <@cp15> I have also fixed the restart functionality now and made the phases a bit more fine-grain
21:03 <@cp15> For example, if you want to test phase 3, you can do the following:
21:03 <@cp15> maptool -e 3 ....
21:03 <@cp15> It will stop after completing phase 3
21:04 <@cp15> You can run phase 3 multiple times with maptool -s 3 -e 3
21:04 <@cp15> If you are satisfied with the result you can continue with phase 4 with maptool -s 4
21:05 < tryagain> the latter I could test. Sorry, have to leave for half an hour now...
21:05 <@cp15> No problem
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21:30 < tryagain> cp15 I have Great Britain and russia-european-part already downloaded from geofabrik. Should I be able to see any improvement with new svn version and that source files? Note the latter extract is actually isn't a complete contry.
21:31 <@cp15> Well, you can try :-)
21:32 <@cp15> It doesn't work well on not-closed polygons... We have to think how to fix this
21:33 <@cp15> This way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/99983493 generates poi_golf twice
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21:33 < tryagain> If we have only two non-connected points it will be trivial. If more - should test distance.
21:34 <@cp15> Probably we should in case of conflicts put priority on the polygon which is more "closed"
21:34 < tryagain> have to check for duplicates...
21:35 <@cp15> reason is probably that it has leisure=golf_course and sport=golf
21:35 <@cp15> Probably find_longest_match should check for duplicates always
21:36 < tryagain> Yes, having two identical object won't be fir in any case
21:36 < tryagain> *objects
21:36 < tryagain> *fair
21:38 < tryagain> trying with russia-european-part.osm.bz2... BTW we have no is_in tags here. But town search worked before.
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21:39 <@cp15> Relly? How that?
21:39 < korrosa> Gentlemen - good evening!
21:39 < korrosa> Anything I can do to help test the relations?
21:39 <@cp15> Good evening korrosa
21:39 < korrosa> I have GB and BE extracts available to me right now...
21:40 < tryagain> Good evening. Have you tested some beer from new discovered POI types?
21:40 <@cp15> Have you had any town in GB which wasn't found by navit, but existed in OSM?
21:40 < korrosa> cp15: Not recently, but I'll try a few now.
21:41 < korrosa> tryagain: I've been to all the ones within a 50 mile radius of me!
21:41 < tryagain> Since last commit? 8-)
21:42 <@cp15> BTW: I am thinking I will add a second daily maptool run with the -E switch enabled
21:43 <@cp15> That will lock the machine for resource-intensive jobs until the early afternoon, but it will allow us to add new features to maptool easier without having to fear to create an unuseable map
21:44 < tryagain> So there will be only 8-hour window when server is not busy?
21:44 <@cp15> I would say 10-12 hours
21:45 <@cp15> korrosa, you can try pitlochry which is currently not found
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21:48 < korrosa> Where? Never heard of that one. Guildford is one which doesn't work either at the moment...
21:49 <@cp15> Ok, then maybe it works with the -E flag
21:53 < dandor> hello all
21:53 < tryagain> hi dandor
21:53 < dandor> hi tryagain
21:53 < dandor> korrosa, you said you are in testing mood?
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21:54 < dandor> korrosa, can you take a look to #897?
21:57 < korrosa> YES! A new dandor idea! Lemme see...
21:58 < korrosa> Oh, _moving_ OSD items runtime? I'll try that...
21:58 <@cp15> dandor, how well do you understand command.c?
22:01 <@cp15> Because I would have an interesting and incredibly useful job
22:01 <@cp15> I don't like the osd_set_attr stuff. Instead I would like to have something more flexible like this:
22:02 < dandor> cp15 sounds interesting
22:02 <@cp15> osd[@name="my_osd_cmdif"].w=300
22:02 <@cp15> As a mixture between c and xslt
22:03 <@cp15> This will give quite some possibilities like
22:03 <@cp15> mapset.map[@name="mymap"].active=0
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22:04 < dandor> i need to take a deeper look into the command.c, but hopfully i can implement it
22:04 < dandor> or at least ask a lot of questions about it :)
22:05 <@cp15> I see this also as a requirement for saving settings
22:05 <@cp15> Initially I thought we should write an appropriate navit.xml. But this is probably an unsolveable job
22:05 < dandor> is the object hierarchy  already exists somehow?
22:06 <@cp15> Yes, for osd the standard object is navit
22:06 <@cp15> If you user mapset, the first mapset attribute will be queried from navit
22:06 <@cp15> Then the map attribute will be queried from mapset and so on
22:07 <@cp15> So I thought we use a "startup script" which will be read and executed by gui internal
22:07 < dandor> ok i think i can try it
22:07 <@cp15> If a setting is changed via gui internal, the startup script will be changed
22:09 < dandor> so this script is kept in a separate file in the NAVIT_USER DIR and updated on each change?
22:09 <@cp15> Yes, that was the intention
22:09 <@cp15> What do you think about it?
22:10 < dandor> i support the idea
22:10 < dandor> but i will need some time to figure out the details
22:10 <@cp15> I will go offline soon, there is a thunderstorm here and my notebook is nearly out of power
22:10 <@cp15> Yes, command.c is some heavy stuff
22:10 < dandor> ok no prob
22:11 < dandor> cp15 another question
22:11 < dandor> what about a string concatenation operator in the command system
22:11 <@cp15> I would use a simple "+" for that
22:11 < dandor> i have already created an experimental one
22:12 < dandor> but i need some more work on it
22:12 < dandor> yes i did so
22:13 < dandor> we had some discussion about it with tryagain and found some problems
22:13 <@cp15> Can you show me a patch?
22:14 < dandor> i'll try to find it
22:15 < dandor> it is quite simple but works for the basic cases
22:16 < tryagain> dandor I can email it back to you
22:17 < dandor> already found it
22:17 < dandor> http://www.2shared.com/file/qrEKa90p/navit_cmd_str_operator.html
22:17 < dandor> thanks tryagain
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22:24 < tryagain> cp15 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/34391623 isn't found
22:24 < korrosa> dandor: I've tried the following: http://pastebin.com/K2DwAzpE. Doesn't seem to work...
22:24 < dandor> korrosa what is your osd line?
22:24 < korrosa> cp15: Neither is Guildford nor pitlochry
22:24 < korrosa> dandor: In the pastebin link
22:25 < dandor> sorry need to learn read
22:25 < korrosa> cp15: Actually, Pitlochry is - I need to type better.
22:25 < tryagain> is_in tag is defined for that node but it contains name of region, not country name
22:25 < korrosa> Guildford still isn't though.
22:26 < korrosa> Guildford is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/14698914
22:31 < korrosa> tryagain: Pitlochry has no is_in tag at all - perhaps maptool trips up with nodes with is_in keys but incorrect values?
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22:32 < tryagain> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/217323851 too, but has no is_in tag
22:36 < tryagain> Both above are not found both with old and experimental map.
22:36 <@cp15> Ok, probably still need for debugging
22:37 <@cp15> korrosa, do you know the osm id of the great britain relation?
22:38 < antenna1> dandor regarding your enhancement of ticket # 815 : Is it possible to call a button within a button? So if you have the same function set in two buttons and you use  one of them, the background of the other button changes as well. e.g. would be 3d button and a northing button.
22:40 < dandor> antenna1, yes changing other button's background should work also
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22:41 < dandor> just need to use it's name in the osd_set_attr()
22:41 < dandor> you can call osd_set_attr() several times in a command
22:41 < korrosa> cp15: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/62149
22:42 < korrosa> dandor: Any reason why my OSD doesn't work?
22:44 < dandor> korrosa, don't know yet, do you see anything command related in the console ?
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22:46 < tryagain> Narva is found in Estonia with my russia-european-part extract. It's very close to above http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/217323851, which is not found neither in Russia nor Estonia nor 'x'
22:47 < korrosa> dandor: Yeah, a crash. Hold on.
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22:49 < korrosa> dandor: http://pastebin.com/1442zvHc
22:50 <@cp15> korrosa, I have done a short check with guildford and the gb relation and it worked
22:50 <@cp15> Are you sure you have run maptool with -E?
22:50 < dandor> korrosa, thx
22:51 < korrosa> dandor: Better paste - http://pastebin.com/2WQVbkxz
22:52 < korrosa> cp15: Perhaps the geofabrik extract doesn't include the whole relation.
22:52 < tryagain> goodnight all
22:52 < korrosa> I definitely ran it with -E
22:52 < korrosa> Pitlochry was found, after all.
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22:53 <@cp15> korrosa, that is perfectly possible
22:55 < korrosa> Although, Pitlochry _was_ found, so the relation must be there no? I presume you do need the whole relation in the extract?
22:56 <@cp15> Well, it depends on which parts are missing.... If the parts of approximately the same lattitude as the node are there, it will work
22:57 <@cp15> I will try with the geofabrik extracts
22:57 < korrosa> dandor: My crashes may or may not be related to your patch, so treat with caution.
22:57 < dandor> korrosa, i'll check the problem, but i need to sleep now
22:57 < korrosa> dandor: No problem!
22:58 < dandor> i also could crash  it so maybe it is :)
22:58 < dandor> night everybody
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23:13 <@cp15> korrosa, looks like the boundary of geofabrik is indeed incomplete
23:14 < korrosa> cp15: The UK boundary is 12nm into the sea on all sides, the greedy buggers.
23:15 < korrosa> I'm just trying Belgium
23:15 < korrosa> There's a load of places in the Ardennes with no or incomplete is_in tags...
23:16 <@cp15> Ok, I will go to bed now
23:16 <@cp15> Good night
23:17 < korrosa> Good night - the Belgium extract works much better!
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23:35 < CIA-69> rikky * r4620 /trunk/navit/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Fix:build/cmake:Fixed building with QtDeclarative
23:35 < CIA-69> rikky * r4621 /trunk/navit/CMakeLists.txt: Fix:build/cmake:Silence saxon test output
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