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08:09 <@Horwitz> morgen
08:14 < nh1> good morning
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09:16 < Number6> Morning
09:16 < woglinde> hi number6
09:16 < Number6> Hi woglinde
09:37 < kenguest> morning time, again?! wtf?
09:38 < Number6> 7am, waking up in the morning, gotta be fresh, gotta go down stairs
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09:56 < hape> cp15: Ping
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09:56 <@cp15> hape, pong
09:57 < woglinde> gm cp15
09:57 < hape> soryy that I did nor responded to you last commen. Had to go and was not online yesterdy
09:57 <@cp15> NP. But does it do what you want?
09:58 < hape> The command line options sound lie it fints my needs. What was the build where you added them?
09:58 < woglinde> .o(how do I convice cp15 to add a cmdline option for the debug-log file too)
09:59 < hape> What are the possible commands. Do I got it write that I can override all the xml options with it. like navit.tracking=0 ?
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10:00 < hape> can I add more the one command in the file for the -s otion?
10:00 <@cp15> navit.tracking=0 should work... But I doubt everything will work
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10:00 <@cp15> Yes, separate them with semicolons
10:01 <@cp15> Or write each on a separate line... Doesn't really confirm to C here
10:03 < hape> did you adeed that whlile we was talking or is it there since some time?
10:04 <@cp15> The c-like interpreter is already there for a longer time, the option to specify commands or a file is new
10:04 < woglinde> hape 3 days or so
10:06 < hape> found it http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit?view=revision&sortby=log&revision=4647
10:08 < hape> will give it a try. Perfekt timing, it should fill my needs from what I can say now
10:08 < woglinde> hape what are your needs?
10:10 < hape> I can get two types of requests from the webos system. One for routing and one for mapping.
10:10 < woglinde> mapping?
10:11 < hape> For the mapping request I fill center.txt and I do not whant Navit to jump away as soon as it get a gps fix
10:11 < hape> also I whant a 2D map (pitch=0), the default in out navit.xm is pitch=20
10:12 < hape> mapping= show a traget poin on the map only
10:12 < woglinde> hape do a xslt file for webos
10:13 < hape> In webos you can select a adress and then get two opins from the system. Rout to this point or show it on the map. I'm working on making the webos port able to handel this requests.
10:13 < woglinde> hm no dbus on webos righ?
10:13 < hape> woglinde: That was my other idea but then I would need to do the transorfmation every time I call the navit binay
10:14 < hape> yes webos uses dbus
10:14 < woglinde> than use dbus
10:15 < hape> woglinde: The command line option looks fine for me. So I can specify the changed parameter befor I call navit to show a point on the map. In any other case I do not speify the command parameters and Navit launches for routing
10:15 < hape> then use dbus?
10:15 < woglinde> yes
10:15 < woglinde> the navit dbus bindings
10:15 < woglinde> much cleaner
10:15 < hape> you mean to send command requests?
10:15 < woglinde> but not easier
10:15 < woglinde> yes
10:16 < hape> Not possible in my case. The normal webos apps run as htmp/javascript in a sandbaox.
10:16 < hape> They do not have access to the linux subsystem
10:17 < woglinde> hm okay
10:17 < hape> The whay with the commandline looks fine for me.
10:20 < KaZeR_W> h ithere
10:20 < woglinde> he kazer
10:21 < woglinde> kazer I would like to help with nls stuff
10:21 < woglinde> can you advice me how to get the po files out of the launchpad
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10:48 < ETarap> hi
10:49 < ETarap> i don't find if ... one can install navit on the simple mobiles
10:49 < ETarap> (sony ericson w995)
10:50 < ETarap> a mobile that can run GpsMidBerlin, mobilegmaps, and wetravelmidlet.. (thelast one is not so bad... but don't zoom back enough :)
10:51 < ETarap> If its free :) Maybe i could think about code it... 'cause I see it is makeable :)
10:52 < woglinde> etarap which os run on this phone
10:52 < ETarap> well
10:52 < ETarap> well well well :)
10:53 < ETarap> i know it runs java programs but//
10:53 < ETarap> i check it
10:53 < woglinde> midp apps yes
10:54 < woglinde> but navit is written in c
10:54 < woglinde> so you need a jni layer similar to the android port
10:54 < woglinde> dont know if it will really work
10:55 < ETarap> The W995 runs the Enea OSE operating system ...
10:55 < ETarap> their own OS ....
10:55 < ETarap> well
10:55 < woglinde> good luck
10:55 < ETarap> it will be hard
10:55 < ETarap> maybe i ll have to think ... to finally have  a modren phone :)
10:55 < ETarap> thx for replies
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12:09 < korrosa> [TRAC] New comments http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/845#comment:4 "Program crash when setting a destination"
12:09 < korrosa> [TRAC] New ticket with patch http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/903 "[cmake] Broken Qt4 detection"
12:50 < korrosa> antenna, noradtux: Please update ticket #901 with any experiences you have! http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/901
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13:23 <@KaZeR> woglinde, sure
13:23 <@KaZeR> woglinde, do you have an account on launchpad?
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14:19 < woglinde> re
14:19 < woglinde> KaZeR yes
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14:41 <@KaZeR> woglinde, ok. i have to go afk now, but if you're available tomorrow morning we can have a look at it
14:41 < woglinde> hm no
14:42 < woglinde> hm could you write me an email?
14:42 <@KaZeR> sure
14:42 <@KaZeR> got your pm
14:42 <@KaZeR> will do tomorrow
14:42 < woglinde> thanks
14:42 < woglinde> will be back sunday evening
14:47 < woglinde> hurray
14:47 < woglinde> http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/07/multiple-apk-support-in-android-market.html
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17:17 < Number6> irc.navit.ie now brings you to freenode's webchat
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19:15 < stephan75> hello, can anybody tell me whether there is already a bug report or an entry in the navit wiki about the following:  Navit (windows-nightly with delkaar map germany does not display streets with highway=service when you search for it.
19:17 < woglinde> delkaar map?
19:17 < woglinde> whats that?
19:33 < stephan75> see here: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap ... it is Deelkar ...
19:35 < stephan75> at the moment I am transferring that 531MB file from there via WinXP dekstop to my androis phone to test it with official Navit release from android market.
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19:42 < woglinde> why you dont use maps.navit-project.org
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21:16 < cp15_> Good evening
21:16 < woglinde> hi cp15
21:18 < ham73tux> Good afternoon
21:20 < cp15_> ham73tux, afternoon? Are you from US?
21:20 < ham73tux> I'm based in california, but I'm German :-)
21:21 < cp15_> Great, I need a performance test. Do you have a fast internet connection?
21:21 < ham73tux> I do - but I'm at work right now.
21:21 < cp15_> Ok, maybe you can test it later then
21:22 < ham73tux> What would you like to do?
21:22 < cp15_> Please download http://maps3.navit-project.org/planet.bin and compare the performance with http://maps9.navit-project.org
21:22 < cp15_> should be http://maps9.navit-project.org/planet.bin
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21:23 < cp15_> The planet.bin is huge, it is sufficient if you download it for a few seconds and abort the download then
21:23 < woglinde_> re
21:23 < Number6> wb woglinde_
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21:23 < woglinde_> only short
21:23 < cp15_> maps3 and maps9 are the same hardware, maps3 is us-based and maps9 is europe-based
21:24 < woglinde_> good nite
21:24 < woglinde_> until sunday evening
21:24 < Number6> Very short, woglinde_ :-)
21:24 < Number6> Be good
21:24 < woglinde_> I was the whole day on?
21:24 < cp15_> Performance of maps3 is quite bad in europe, so I want to know whether performance at least in us is ok
21:24 < woglinde_> okay 3 hours not
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21:29 < ham73tux> Downloading maps3: seems to come through ok. I can't tell you how much my company throttles the data stream, but it seems avg. 200...300 kB/sec
21:31 < ham73tux> Downloading from maps9: avg. 100..180 kB/sec.
21:31 < ham73tux> So it seems the maps3 server works ok here in the US.
21:32 < cp15_> Ok, thanks for the test
21:35 < ham73tux> Question: I would like to run Navit on an Archos 70 (Android 2.2). I can't download mapos ("not enough space left"), which seems to be a known issue. I added this to ticket #878. Is it already known why this happens?
21:35 < ham73tux> maps
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21:41 < cp15_> Have you already started a download and aborted it?
21:43 < ham73tux> Well, wheneveer I try to download my first map, I get "not enough space left" immediately. The divice has 8 GBytes memory + a 16 GByte SD card. There's plenty of space.
21:43 < cp15_> If there are some files with tmp in its name in /sdcard/navit, delete them and try again
21:45 < ham73tux> The /sdcard directory is empty.
21:45 < ham73tux> Found folder /navit and deleted two files - trying again.
21:47 < ham73tux> Well, same problem. "Error downloading map! Not enough free space"
21:48 < cp15_> Ok, I have looked at the code... Probably there is a bug in the free space calculation
21:49 < ham73tux> Actually it seems to load down a few bytes: found "USA (except Alaska and Hawaii).tmp with size 93.00B in /navit.
21:49 < cp15_> I will try something, maybe you can install the newest version tomorrow and report whether it works better?
21:50 < ham73tux> Sure! Thanks for your quick response - much appreciated!
21:51 < cp15_> No, that is the restart information
21:51 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4659 /trunk/navit/navit/android/src/org/navitproject/navit/NavitMapDownloader.java: Fix:Android:Avoid overflow in free space calculation
21:53 < cp15_> I have triggered a build, so in about an hour there should be a new version
21:53 < ham73tux> Cool! I will report back to you.
21:55 < cp15_> Search in US probably doesn't work too well... Ideas for improvement are welcome
21:59 < ham73tux> Will do. Nice here is that street data is public domain. Downside is that this data usually isn't very detailed.
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22:20 < cp15_> I will go to bed now
22:20 < cp15_> Good night
22:20 < ham73tux> sleep well, and thanks a lot!
22:24 < ham73tux> YESS!! It is currently loading down a map. Seems to work now!
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