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00:49 < aspix_> hello everyone, i want to change the layout of navit, i have a android phone. And i want to install androidOSD from the wiki page
00:49 < aspix_> some advice for how to install... thanks to all...!
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02:09 < OwenLA7QZ> Hi. Does anyone here know how to edit/correct OSM? The street we are on has a missing bit.
02:10 < OwenLA7QZ> It's missing in Google maps too.
02:11 < drlizau> hi OwenLA7QZ
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02:35 < drlizau> bye OwenLA7QZ
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05:34 < greenguy> cp15_ are you up for a question?
05:36 < drlizau> hi OwenLA7QZ
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05:36 < drlizau> type his name and he disappears
05:36 < drlizau> sad that
05:42 < greenguy> CP15_ or Number6 Question?  Does the serial COMx communication to the GPS require or assume COMM support via a particular dll?
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06:42 <@Horwitz> morgen
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08:38 < greenguy> I have a question regarding serial com
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08:39 < cx1> What are the graphical backends of navit ?
08:42 < greenguy> specifcally serial com on a wince deivce
08:42 < greenguy> running navit
08:43 < cx1> Thanks.
08:50 < greenguy> thanks
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08:52 < Greenguy> I have a question I would like to leave and I will check the log later
08:53 < Greenguy> Does the serial handler in the wince version expect a specific .dll or version to work porperly?
08:54 < Greenguy> All I get back in the log is a message, "...waiting to connect to COM1...
08:55 < Greenguy> I know the port is there and works with other software at 4800 baud
08:55 < Greenguy> I have tried many versions of the XML file with no success
08:55 < Greenguy> I have verified that the COM1 is there in the registry
08:56 < Greenguy> Thanks for any help in advance
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09:24 < Number6> greenguy - have you tried other com ports? I had an application on my WinCE device that explicitly stated my GPS com port was com1... In reality, I found it on com4
09:25 < Number6> greenguy - My device was one of these cheap Chinese GPS that was missing a load of dlls - which should only affect installing or running applications that need them  (navit doesn't)
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09:26 < Number6> Greenguy - If you try other ports, and are still having problems, it may be that the data coming from your device is not in an NMEA format (again, I've seen this happen with some GPS')
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16:36 < greenguy> Number6 Thanks for the feedback.  Here is what I have tried:
16:36 < greenguy> COM1 thru COM3 all listed in the registry
16:37 < greenguy> The GPS is a Holux 52+GPSmile which is actually a 53
16:38 < greenguy> I put Route66 on it once and had to set the Port to 1 at 4800 toget that to work
16:39 < greenguy> Unfortunately I do not have any way of capturing a data stream so I cannot know for sure what the format is
16:41 < greenguy> Hense of my questions concerning the log message "...waiting for COMx..." does that mean no data from the gps or data that is not useable?
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16:42 < greenguy> I have also tried enabling the debug log file but I do not see anything being generated
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16:42 < greenguy> I am on PDT so I will check back later ---Thanks
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16:43 < ham73tux> Good morning (well, good Evening, Europe)!
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16:50 < ham73tux> I'm using now Navit as primary nav system and learning how to handle it. Things I miss most (maybe they're there and I don't know?):
16:50 < ham73tux> A list of previous destinations
16:51 < ham73tux> a "home" destination
16:51 < ham73tux> a function which lets me return to the previous destination
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16:52 < ham73tux> Any comments?
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17:02 < kenguest> you need to pester Number6
17:02 < kenguest> right. my work here is done :D
17:07 < ham73tux> Don't want to pester anyone. These are just suggestions :-)
17:18 < ham73tux> oh, one more thing. Yesterday it froze on me. It happened while I was turning into a highway, as far as I can tell from what I saw later. No more navigation advice, and my Archos didn't react to any input. It had to be coldstarted. Unsure whether this was caused by Navit, the device or any other background job. Known issue?
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18:32 < Number6> ham73tux: You can set "Home" as a bookmark, that's what I do
18:33 < Number6> As for the device locking up, it's hard to say. Did it happen just before you would get a voice announcement?
18:34 < ham73tux> Number6, thanks, I will explore bookmarks.
18:34 < ham73tux> For the freeze, I'd say yes, but I can't be sure - I was driving at the time :-)
18:34 < Number6> Pfft, you should still be able to debug memory when driving!
18:35 < ham73tux> But it was the time an announcement wasrto be issued.
18:35 < ham73tux> Right! :-)
18:36 < ham73tux> I will be away now for some time, I have to attend to a meeting.
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18:38 < Number6> Ok, I should be here for a while
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18:44 < cp15_> Good evening
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18:45 < Number6> Evening, cp15_
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19:37 < hape> cp15_: The -e parameter works perfekt.
19:39 < cp15_> hape, great :-)
19:40 < hape> I use it with "navit.pitch=0;navit.tracking=0;navit.follow_cursor=0"
19:40 < hape> and the user can switch it on agaib in the menu when he starts to rout to the target that navit has started with
19:41 < cp15_> Do you want to have navit.set_center and navit.set_destination (with geo coordinates) also implemented?
19:41 < hape> hmmm
19:42 < hape> currently I write it into center.txt or destination.txt
19:43 < hape> I would make my code clener if it is no big deal for you
19:43 < cp15_> I will try :-)
19:43 < hape> thanks in advance
19:44 < hape> we get Navit more and more to look like a webos app and more and more intigratetd inti the system ;-)
19:47 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4662 /trunk/navit/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Fix:Build:Make map_shapefile build again on cmake
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19:48 < Number6> Are you back from holiday, cp15_ ?
19:48 < cp15_> Not yet :-)
19:49 < Number6> Don't forget my sweets :-)
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20:08 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4663 /trunk/navit/navit/navit.c: Add:Core:Implemented set_center command, extended coordinate format for set_destination
20:08 < cp15_> hape: Now it is there
20:08 < cp15_> You can do now:
20:08 < cp15_> navit.set_center("coordinates")
20:08 < cp15_> and
20:08 < cp15_> navit.set_destination("coordinates")
20:08 < cp15_> or
20:09 < cp15_> navit.set_destination("coordinates","description");
20:09 < cp15_> coordinates can be of the same format as for center.txt or destination.txt
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20:19 < hape> wow that was fast, thanks
20:20 < hape> do I deen the quotesÃ?
20:21 < hape> or would navit.set_center(6.9458900 50.9277900) be fine?
20:27 < cp15_> You need the quotes. The format you suggested would be a bit hard to implement because the command parser could convert the numbers to either a double or a int and then it would be impossible for the command to recognize which coordinate format was used
20:28 < hape> ok, but i can use decimal number i hope?
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20:28 < hape> navit.set_center("6.9458900 50.9277900")
20:29 < cp15_> Yep
20:29 < cp15_> Just as what you would write to center.txt
20:30 < hape> but without the mg: :-)
20:30 < cp15_> You can add it if you like :-)
20:30 < hape> ok
20:34 < cp15_> You should do some sanity checks if the string originates from untrusted sources (like remove quotes)
20:42 < hape> yep have to do this
20:43 < cp15_> If you can make sure the coordinates contain a "." (use 50.0 instead of 50) we could also implement navit.set_center(6.9458900,50.9277900)
20:44 < hape> one more question. A user do not see that a destination is set until Navit has a GPS Fix.
20:45 < hape> Sometimes the Pre needs a bit of time ultil the first fix and the suer is not sure if the destionaton was set or not as the "Stop Routing" item is missing in the menue. What is rigth from Navits poit of view as the internal routing has not been started
20:46 < cp15_> Yes, I find that also quite annoying
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20:51 < cp15_> You can search for navit.route.route_status&amp;52 in navit.xml. If you change the 52 to 1 the "Stop Routing" button should appear even if no gps fix is available
20:51 < cp15_> If you like the result I will make it a default
20:56 < hape> ok, will test it
20:57 < Number6> Goodnight, all
20:58 < Number6> sleep(28800);
20:58 < cp15_> Already?
20:59 < Number6> Yes, I had a very early morning today
20:59 < Number6> And the humidity makes me sleepy!
21:00 < hape> n8 Number6
21:00 < cp15_> Ok, good night then
21:00 < Number6> Night, gents
21:00 < Number6> :-)
21:01 < cp15_> Maybe not a bad idea
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21:26 < cp15_> Good night
21:28 < woglinde> nite cp15
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23:17 < OwenLA7QZ1> Hi. Is anyone around?
23:18 < OwenLA7QZ1> Got the speech working in Navit (Ubuntu) and discovered a couple of weird things that maybe could be improved.
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