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09:15 < CIA-47> martin-s * r4710 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/Makefile.am: Fix:Build:Search navit/search.h in the correct directory
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12:15 < Eduardo> Hello!
12:30 <@cp15> Hi Eduardo
12:34 < Eduardo> Hello :) I am trying to understand some things... NavIT actually loads a whole map file before it starts to analyse which part of it should be drawn? I mean... the minimum piece of map in memory is a map file?
12:34 < Eduardo> Or maybe a map into the map file (I realised that OSM are zips of "submaps", something like that, looking at the code, but this could be a particularity of the maps).
12:34 < Eduardo> (of the OSM maps I mean)
12:35 <@cp15> There are two options here:
12:36 <@cp15> - A "flat" map which just contains the items to draw. It will be mmapped and analyzed completely on every map query
12:37 <@cp15> - A "hierarchical" map. There only the top hierarchy will be analyzed on every map query. This top hierarchy has then references to lower hierarchies which in itself might contain hierarchies to lower references
12:38 <@cp15> As a simplified example: Imagine the top hierarchy is "world". There is a reference to "if you want to query germany, look at there", in germany there might be a "if you want to query munich, go there" and so on
12:38 < Eduardo> But this is supported in OSM or is this a Navit feature?
12:38 <@cp15> The hierarchical map is a zip file, each member represents some geographical region
12:39 <@cp15> This is a navit feature. We convert the osm maps on a daily basis to our own format
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12:39 < Eduardo> I understand. And the conversion utility is this "planet extractor"?
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12:41 <@cp15> No, the conversion utility is maptool
12:42 <@cp15> We always convert the whole planet, and the planet extractor can cut out a rectangular area out of it, so you can download the area you want
12:43 < Eduardo> Ok... now on Navit... correct me if I am wrong.... the files are loaded (all in the active mapset) and stored in zipped form (all)
12:43 < Eduardo> But not analysed, this is made though "map queries".
12:43 < Eduardo> And the hierarchical structure sends the "query" to the appropiate scala and map.
12:44 < Eduardo> The results end up in "do_draw", somehow, or to the call graphics_displaylist_draw there, I guess.
12:44 <@cp15> The data isn't loaded and stored in zipped form, it is already a zip archive
12:44 < Eduardo> Yes, but I meant, in memory.
12:45 < Eduardo> I am trying to understand the memory use regarding maps, what is stored when. Sorry if the question is too general.
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16:27 < korrosa> pb_8: I reverted your edit to the wiki as the path= attribute is obsolete in the speed_cam OSD. See http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/702#comment:24
16:28 < korrosa> Unfortunately I clicked "Rollback" instead of "Revert", so couldn't add a comment for my actions - my apologies!
16:52 < korrosa> [TRAC] New comments and ticket re-opened http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/917#comment:5 "Some address are not found due to unwritable chars"
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17:05 <@cp15> korrosa, the change for town names is in the maps, they need to update their maps
17:08 < korrosa> Oh wow - I'm very honoured that you read my trac updates!!
17:10 < korrosa> cp15: Has a new map been generated with this change on the Planet Extractor?
17:11 <@cp15> If I have commited it yesterday then yes
17:12 <@cp15> Maybe you could try it out?
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17:14 < korrosa> Those are some strange places for me to download - I'll see if I have some time later. I've updated the ticket, so hopefully mvglasow lets us know what happens: he's usually pretty speedy!
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19:40 < CIA-47> martin-s * r4711 /trunk/navit/Toolchain/xcode-iphone-sim-3.2.cmake: Add:Build:iphone sim on xcode toolchain
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19:46 < ICE-B> hi
19:59 < CIA-47> martin-s * r4712 /trunk/navit/navit/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix:graphics_cocoa:Better main argument handling
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