--- Log opened Thu Feb 02 00:00:16 2012 00:57 < efess> Does OSM contain house numbers, or is the house number search broken? 03:01 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 03:04 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:26 -!- cp15` [szziep@p57B1CA02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:26 -!- cp15 [pyngcu@p57B1CD28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:26 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:26 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:46 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:54 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 05:02 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:55b0:3db5::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:07 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:3b77::1] has joined #navit 05:07 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 05:35 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 05:45 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:51 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 05:58 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 05:59 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:02 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 06:04 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:09 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:13 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 06:18 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:21 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 06:30 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:34 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 06:38 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:40 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@17.169.11.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 06:43 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 06:54 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@17.169.11.109.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 07:00 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 07:02 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 07:26 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:30 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 07:32 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:34 -!- efess [~Efess@ool-18bfe031.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:45 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has joined #navit 08:10 -!- tryagain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has joined #navit 08:12 < tryagain> xazzax if you will ever read logs... Ukrain uses Cyrillc alphabet. Most objects are tagged with primary name spelled with Cyrillc. So you should enter their names in Cyrillic to find anything. 08:13 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:13 < tryagain> Cyrillic keyboard of Navit is well hidden and is aviliable after you select numbers (123) and then Cyrillic A Be Ve letters. 08:14 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 08:40 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 08:51 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-92-32.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 09:29 -!- efess [~Efess@ool-18bfe031.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #navit 10:12 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:17 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 10:23 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has left #navit [] 10:58 -!- korrosa [c3028868@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.2.136.104] has joined #navit 10:58 < korrosa> efess: House number search should be working 10:58 < korrosa> If you share a node or area which contains a housenumber perhaps we can find out what's going wrong? 11:11 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 11:34 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-92-32.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:44 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has joined #navit 12:47 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-106-169.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 13:28 -!- curious [~curious@bwv190.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:28 -!- curious [~curious@bwv190.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 13:30 -!- InBar [~v@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 13:57 < efess> @korrosa, how can I verify in OSM that the street i'm searching has house numbers? 14:02 < tryagain> efess Try doing your search at nominatim.openstreetmap.org 14:05 < tryagain> efess Also you may try viewing interested area with Navit and inspecting if there are any points market with numbers around, and if their attributes include housenumber= and streetname= values. 14:06 < tryagain> *marked 14:07 < tryagain> These points are visible at high zoom levels only. 14:07 -!- tryagain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:26 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has left #navit [] 15:19 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:25 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 15:43 -!- AlexWien [d973410f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.115.65.15] has joined #navit 15:44 < AlexWien> . 15:51 < AlexWien> Hi Cp is ther a easy way to programatically change the collor of the route (blue), The display source is rather complex working with display lists ..... 15:57 < Number6> AlexWien: It's set in navit.xml 15:58 < Number6> the line looks like 15:58 < Number6> Under the desired layout (say, Car) 16:01 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:04 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 16:14 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:36 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 16:55 < korrosa> AlexWien: Look for item_types="street_route" in navit.xml 17:00 < AlexWien> thanks, but is liked "programatically!" 17:00 -!- InBar [~v@77.242.201.52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01 < AlexWien> .. I liked it programatically because I like to change dependent some state 17:23 < AlexWien> ANother question: I have starnge problem only under win7 with a win32 build (on Xp) 17:24 < AlexWien> The lower part of the GUI windows (ETA, Compass, etc.) disapperas on win7 after updating the route... 17:33 -!- korrosa [c3028868@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.2.136.104] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:34 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-114-39.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 17:35 < dandor> AlexWien, for the forst question 17:35 < dandor> you can place the desired route lines to separate layers and select them by osd command 17:36 < dandor> AlexWien, its itemgra name is "street_route" 17:37 < dandor> and it is in the streets layer by default 17:38 < dandor> there is a navit command: "toggle_layer" 18:24 < AlexWien> So i Have to fetch the layer with name "street_route" and change the color? 18:24 < AlexWien> How Do I create a new layer and programaticaly place lines into? 18:25 < dandor> you need to create two layers with streeet_routes with different color 18:25 < dandor> one is active the other is not 18:26 < dandor> then call toggle_layer on both layers when you need to change the color 18:31 < AlexWien> ok, 18:31 < dandor> you need something like this: 18:31 < dandor> 18:31 < dandor> 18:31 < dandor> ... 18:31 < dandor> 18:31 < dandor> 18:31 < dandor> 18:31 < dandor> 18:31 < AlexWien> ok but how to referecne the layer progrtamaticaly ? 18:32 < dandor> then you can toggle both of them to change 18:32 < dandor> as i mentioned with the toggle_layer() command 18:32 < AlexWien> navit->get_layer("layer") ;-) 18:32 < dandor> do you need to check some condition continuusly? 18:33 < dandor> you may use the command interface osd for that 18:33 < AlexWien> no only once before the route is caluclated 18:33 < dandor> or you want c code? 18:33 < AlexWien> c 18:33 < AlexWien> by the way command do not work in win32 18:33 < AlexWien> or? 18:34 < dandor> you don't necessaryly need c code 18:34 < dandor> with command interface osd you can evaluate a command periodically 18:34 < AlexWien> the comman intercae does not work in win32 build 18:35 < dandor> really? 18:35 < AlexWien> i had to create my own command interface, using ip protocol instead of dbus 18:35 < dandor> you don't need dbus 18:35 < AlexWien> command uses dbus which runs only on linux 18:35 < dandor> you need a command interface osd 18:36 < AlexWien> ? how can an external programm communicate with navit? 18:36 < AlexWien> only via dbus, or? 18:37 < dandor> you need to check external condition? 18:37 < AlexWien> I externaly calculate the route 18:37 < AlexWien> pass it inot navit 18:37 < AlexWien> If i cannot calculatze iot externally i want to chnage the color 18:37 < AlexWien> blue for navit 18:38 < AlexWien> green for extenral route 18:38 < dandor> I see 18:38 < AlexWien> that all wokrs 18:38 < AlexWien> but the it would be fine to addionally dispaly some things 18:38 < dandor> and how you pass the external route now? 18:38 < AlexWien> like other color, and one addional layers 18:38 < AlexWien> via ip protocoll 18:38 < AlexWien> socket connection 18:39 < dandor> i see 18:39 < AlexWien> csv string 18:39 < AlexWien> parse it 18:39 < AlexWien> and so on 18:39 < dandor> then you can use the C function for toggle_layer 18:39 < AlexWien> YES 18:39 < AlexWien> I can lokk under dbvus command how they implemnented the toggle_layer 18:40 < AlexWien> ? 18:40 < AlexWien> but toggle will work , not so difficlut. 18:40 < dandor> you can directly codeit in c like in function navit_cmd_toggle_layer 18:40 < AlexWien> further I have to add coordinates of lines into a specific layer 18:41 < AlexWien> ok toggle I will manage 18:41 < dandor> or add command execution to your protocol 18:41 < dandor> i think that would be more general 18:41 < AlexWien> yeah but much work 18:42 < AlexWien> so the intersting thing is how to add lines into the layer 18:42 < dandor> you just need be able to pass a string and call command execution for that 18:42 < AlexWien> I know how to transform the cooridinates 18:42 < AlexWien> ok that sounds interesting 18:43 < dandor> currently mapt drivers cannot handle adding ways 18:43 < dandor> you can add points with the csv driver but there is no support for lines currently 18:43 < AlexWien> but the route calculation adds them into the route_layer, so this will work 18:45 < dandor> so you have c code for that 18:45 < dandor> then you only need to call the layer toggling 18:46 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 18:47 < dandor> routing engine implements a map interface 18:47 < dandor> maybe you can update that special map 18:48 < dandor> or better improve routing system to be modular like other stuff in navit(but this is a bigger work) 18:50 < AlexWien> aha but the map interfae is quite complex 18:51 < dandor> how your current solution displays the external route? 18:52 < AlexWien> by aproximateing the external route by creating 10 via points and let navit do the rest 18:52 < AlexWien> via point = "add destination" 18:53 < AlexWien> there is a patch that extends navit to add more than one destination 18:53 < AlexWien> did you mean command_evaluate(&conf, buffer); 18:53 < dandor> yep maybe i did that :) 18:54 < AlexWien> the patch or the command _evaluate ? 18:54 < dandor> the patch 18:54 < AlexWien> the pathc works but has one bug 18:55 < dandor> it just leads out the functionality to the gui 18:55 < AlexWien> if there are more than one via point in the same street segment, thsi will lead to a loop around the house block 18:55 < AlexWien> it takes me some time to find out what the cuased that loop 18:55 < dandor> i see 18:56 < AlexWien> so I changed to ignore the destination if it will be matched to the same segment as the last destination 18:56 < dandor> maybe a check can be done before adding the via point if another one is alreadys set to that segment 18:56 < AlexWien> yes, i do it hat way 18:56 < AlexWien> there is a find_streets() whioch returns the street_item 18:56 < AlexWien> if its identical toi the last street_item added, then ignor eit 18:57 < dandor> then you only need to call the toggling 18:57 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@mnch-4d0467e4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #navit 18:57 < dandor> since you display the route calculated by navit 18:58 < dandor> either directly from c code or by the command_evaluate() function 18:59 < AlexWien> no there is only one route no, and nothing to toggle 18:59 < AlexWien> I ok 18:59 < AlexWien> I inderstand 18:59 < AlexWien> two layers for the same surce 18:59 < AlexWien> source 18:59 < AlexWien> ok, that will work. 19:00 < dandor> yep 19:00 < AlexWien> Is it possible to add filled circles? 19:00 < AlexWien> whitout a map interface 19:00 < AlexWien> you said points are possible, but no ways 19:00 < dandor> with the csv driver i think it is possible 19:01 < AlexWien> yes i have heared some time ago, 19:01 < dandor> but it will remember the points 19:01 < dandor> there is no way to delete them currently 19:01 < AlexWien> bye the way, when I update the route the lower part of the gui disappears, but only on win7, any adieas? 19:02 < AlexWien> no delete, bad, ist meant for static points of interest, no dynamic content. 19:02 < dandor> sorry i don't use navit on win 19:02 < AlexWien> the lower on screen displays (ETA, km/h, etc.) 19:02 < dandor> maybe i will implement delete laso some day 19:03 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:03 < dandor> laso=also 19:03 < AlexWien> not a good idea i think 19:03 < AlexWien> static map content uses optimized structures like quad tree, they often do not like deleteing items 19:04 < AlexWien> maybe its a better idea, to add a dynamic map component, designed onyl for a few items, which doi not need a complex geo spatial index 19:04 < AlexWien> a simple c-array 19:05 < AlexWien> with layers and line, circle, icon, and poly line 19:05 < dandor> i think the best solution would be to make routing engine modular 19:05 < dandor> woglinde has plans for that 19:05 < AlexWien> i know 19:06 < dandor> but i think deleting can be implemented without much problem 19:06 < dandor> in the csv driver 19:06 < AlexWien> yes in the csv 19:06 < AlexWien> ind the bin map not so a good idea 19:06 < dandor> yep maybe 19:06 < dandor> csv uses in memory quadtree structure 19:07 < AlexWien> yes, so simply to not shrink the quad tree,even of one quad element woul be empty 19:08 < AlexWien> even if one quad element would be empty 19:08 < dandor> yes something like this 19:08 < AlexWien> did you implment the quad tree in the csv driver? 19:08 < dandor> yes 19:08 < AlexWien> is this a bounding box bases quad tree, or a line based or a point based? 19:09 < dandor> bb based 19:09 < AlexWien> yes thats the most general 19:09 < AlexWien> had you a working source or impeneted it from literature? 19:10 < dandor> read about this on wikipedia 19:10 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:10 < dandor> and some other sources 19:11 < AlexWien> yes, i think, 19:12 < AlexWien> 4 years ago i l ooked for a public availabel quad tree implementation, I did only found a n on workinh one 19:12 < AlexWien> geotools later had one 19:12 < AlexWien> (in java) 19:13 < dandor> furtunately it is not so complex 19:13 < AlexWien> it depends on the operations that are provided 19:14 < AlexWien> for indexing not so compelxc 19:14 < AlexWien> but there are others, I don not rmemeber now 19:15 < dandor> yes that's true 19:16 < AlexWien> do you have experience how the size of the dispaly affexts the performance: 19:17 < AlexWien> e.g 600*600 -> 600*900 (50% more) 19:17 < AlexWien> performace of drawing (GUI) 19:21 < efess> AlexWien- are you using GDI? 19:27 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@mnch-4d0467e4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:27 < AlexWien> no, internal gui 19:28 < AlexWien> and win32 19:47 < AlexWien> ANother topic: 19:48 < AlexWien> Are there differnet layers for rail or tramway (strassenbahn) ? I only saw the rail layer 19:53 < AlexWien> i found the rail_tram, bus_gudieway layewr disabled it, andthere are still tramways visible on the map 19:54 < dandor> AlexWien, there are different layouts, you need to change them on your actual layout 19:54 < dandor> like Car night , Car etc 19:55 < dandor> there can also be several itemgra entries for the same item type for different zoom levels 19:55 < AlexWien> thanks 19:56 < dandor> cheers 19:57 < AlexWien> ah finally 19:57 < AlexWien> no byciclyes, no tram, no footpath, simple a dream of a cars view of wolrd ... 19:57 < dandor> :D 19:58 < AlexWien> the house layer is defect on my map, instead of rectanlge there are always triangles drawn... 19:59 < dandor> zoom closer 19:59 < dandor> it is some kind of optimization 19:59 < dandor> quite disturbing :) 19:59 < AlexWien> ist simpel a bug 19:59 < AlexWien> maybe a one by off error 20:00 < AlexWien> < N-1 instead of but if you zoom in it will be displayed correctly 20:00 < AlexWien> ok i try it 20:02 < AlexWien> ok you are right 20:02 < AlexWien> its realy an optimization 20:05 < dandor> yep, but maybe it would be a good idea to set it to to be less strict 20:05 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:05 < AlexWien> thatrs not an easy task, do it right 20:05 < AlexWien> the ypolgoins are very detailed 20:06 < dandor> yep and the devices navit running on are versatile 20:06 < AlexWien> maybe better would be, switch it off on overbview zoom 20:06 < AlexWien> and switch the layer on on detrail zoom, but then without oiptimizationb 20:07 < AlexWien> usually there is a zoom level (oN GIS application) where ouy can decide to enabale a layer if the zoom is between x, and y 20:08 < dandor> yes maybe 20:10 < AlexWien> I personally would pay 20€ if there would be a nice voice on windows ...... 20:10 < AlexWien> on android thsi is better 20:10 < AlexWien> i have to leave with espeak .... 20:10 < dandor> does external TTS plugin of navit work on win? 20:10 < AlexWien> i have to live with espeak 20:11 < AlexWien> ... and like top leave speak ... 20:11 < AlexWien> to leave 20:11 < AlexWien> what is TTS ? 20:11 < dandor> text to speech system 20:11 < dandor> navit has a "cmdline" tts plugin 20:12 < dandor> which can execute external TTSes 20:12 < dandor> at least on linux it works 20:12 < AlexWien> hm id dont know 20:12 < dandor> when i used that i had the line : 20:12 < dandor> 20:13 < dandor> /home/dandor/espeek_wrapper.sh called the TTS and also placed a bubble with the text on the desktop notification area 20:15 < AlexWien> Whait i never understood: I tried a mbrola voice, but it sounds identical to the standard voice (espeak) 20:17 < AlexWien> There already is described a possibility to enable a layer by zoom level: order: Range for zoom levels. 20:18 < AlexWien> But I thought that order are different layers in the map file, high order streets, etc. 20:20 < dandor> i think it is the zoom level in navit 20:20 < AlexWien> yes 20:21 < AlexWien> I tried with poly_building oder="17-" but does not work, ist does not dislay 20:21 < AlexWien> now it wokrs with 10- 20:26 < AlexWien> a good value is order="15-" that avoids most artefacts 20:26 < AlexWien> at poly_building layer 20:28 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@17.169.11.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 20:28 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@17.169.11.109.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 20:34 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-114-39.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:39 -!- fOB [~fob@ip-178-202-247-64.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:42 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:46 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.24.140.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 20:54 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:54 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:02 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10 < AlexWien> QUESTION: How to change the font size of the internal GUI (win32) . The default size is a bit to small to aim sometimes 21:11 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.24.140.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:28 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- AlexWien [d973410f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.115.65.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:49 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 22:15 -!- noradtux is now known as noradtux|away 22:20 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 22:33 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4940E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 247 seconds] 22:41 -!- dhakka [56b9c806@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.185.200.6] has joined #navit 22:42 < dhakka> hello All 22:54 -!- dhakka [56b9c806@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.185.200.6] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 23:07 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:44 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-106-169.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me] --- Log closed Fri Feb 03 00:00:15 2012