--- Log opened Tue Dec 04 00:00:24 2012 00:16 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:23 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 02:49 -!- Horwitz [mich1@baldrian.franken.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:49 -!- Horwitz [mich1@baldrian.franken.de] has joined #navit 02:49 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 04:04 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:4e36:12cf::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:09 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:3c43::1] has joined #navit 05:18 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052234061.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 05:33 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052234061.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:38 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has joined #navit 09:17 -!- cp15 [ccimwq@p57B1CED9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 09:18 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 09:43 -!- sup [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has joined #navit 09:45 -!- sup_ [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has joined #navit 09:47 -!- sup [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:47 #navit: < sup_> Good morning to all. Thanks for the fix from yesterday, fullscreen does not crash any longer for me. However, this line still crashes navit when clicked on the icon: 09:47 -!- MatthiasM [~matthias@stw-104-068.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 09:47 -!- MatthiasM is now known as Usul 09:48 #navit: < Usul> Good morning everybody :) 09:49 #navit: < sup_> Good morning 09:50 #navit: < sup_> I cannot get navit to print a stacktrace this time however. Does not it compile with debugging automatically? 09:52 #navit: <@cp15> sup_, it should 09:52 #navit: <@cp15> Unless you have stripped the executable 09:53 #navit: < sup_> I do not think I did that. I just built it with default options (cmake navit & make) 10:06 -!- sup_ [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:09 -!- Usul is now known as Usul_afk 10:09 -!- sup [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has joined #navit 10:12 #navit: <@cp15> And what do you get? 10:15 -!- Usul_afk [~matthias@stw-104-068.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:36 #navit: < sup> This http://pastebin.com/N7RUUexf 10:55 #navit: <@cp15> ptrace: Operation not permitted. 10:56 #navit: <@cp15> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-3509 11:01 #navit: <@cp15> @sup, the above was for you 11:20 #navit: < sup> well, it changed things: http://pastebin.com/MMkxddPb - but I wonder why yesterday this was not an issue. 11:21 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- sup_ [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has joined #navit 11:29 -!- sup [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:33 -!- MatthiasM [~matthias@stw-103-213.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 11:36 -!- tragain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has joined #navit 11:37 #navit: < tragain> sup_ looks like you have no speech activated. Though it definitely shouldnt crash in this case... 11:38 #navit: < sup_> ah, yes, that is true. I will include it and see if it makes a difference 11:46 -!- marioIT [4f08f7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.8.247.194] has joined #navit 11:46 #navit: < sup_> tragain Alright, when I enable speech, it does not crashes anymore. But it crashes reliably without speech enabled. 11:47 #navit: < MatthiasM> it's not a bug, its a feature ;) 11:47 -!- MatthiasM is now known as Usul 11:48 #navit: < tragain> that looks like a separate bug and i think i'll fix it tonight with a one-line commit 11:49 #navit: < marioIT> bin maps downloaded from navit planet extractor are not updated (central italy) why? i tried maps3, maps5 and maps7.navit-project.org but is the same.... 11:58 #navit: < sup_> ok, great! I really appriciate that the crashes get resolved so quickly, it is no so common:-). 11:58 #navit: < tragain> they are not resolved yet ;) 12:01 #navit: < Usul> marioIT somebody noted that the servers aren't all in sync 12:04 #navit: < sup_> well, yesterday you solved it in a couple of hours, and if the today's bug is solved in the evening, what more could I ask:-). 12:05 -!- marioIT [4f08f7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.8.247.194] has left #navit [] 12:19 #navit: < Usul> Can anybody explain the differences between http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ and http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/ ? Both seem to be abandoned? 12:22 #navit: < tragain> The first is place to store packages nightly built from current svn for different platforms. The second is place to store logs of those builds. 12:23 #navit: < Usul> so build logs? 12:24 #navit: < tragain> yes. 12:36 -!- Usul [~matthias@stw-103-213.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:49 -!- MatthiasM [~matthias@stw-103-213.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 13:10 #navit: < tragain> marioIT we might be out of sync with official planet.osm. Thank you for your report. Data refresh is planned by the end of week. 13:10 #navit: < tragain> MatthiasM would you like to post something like that ^^^^ on the wiki news page? 13:12 #navit: < MatthiasM> sry was AFK 13:12 -!- MatthiasM is now known as Usul 13:12 #navit: < Usul> you mean about maps update process? 13:14 #navit: < Usul> curr didnt touched the Maps articles 13:14 #navit: < Usul> where would you suggest an hint? 13:14 #navit: < Usul> on which page? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Index#Maps 13:23 #navit: < tragain> This issue may hit anybody using our software. So better place might be notice box on the top of the main page. 13:23 #navit: < Usul> as the current ReqAccount note? 13:25 #navit: <@cp15> marioIT, I will reload the map servers when the next planet.osm is available (probably thursday or friday), then it should be up to date again 13:25 #navit: < Usul> you don't apply the diffs? 13:26 #navit: <@cp15> I do, but since the disk was full they are probably corrupt 13:26 #navit: < Usul> damn...i see 13:26 #navit: < Usul> what about freezing the planetextractor and offer prebuild packages? 13:27 #navit: <@cp15> ? 13:27 #navit: < Usul> Guess most will just pick their country and so the heavy cutting/converting part could be done in preprocessing? 13:28 #navit: <@cp15> The cutting is done during download 13:28 #navit: < Usul> yes, but doesn't that result in heavy load? 13:29 #navit: <@cp15> No, the process is extremely lightweight... There is just some size overhead in the extraction process: The user will get a bit more than he actually wants 13:29 #navit: < Usul> oh, ok? So you build a complete converted planet.bin for NAVIT? 13:30 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, usually every day, and you can extract an arbitrary rectangular area of it on the fly 13:30 #navit: < Usul> interesting, thought it worked like importing planet.pbf -> splitting areas/tiles ->merging for user selection 13:31 #navit: <@cp15> Not here, it works like converting planet.osm to planet.o5m (once in a while), applying hourly diffs, converting to navit format 13:31 #navit: <@cp15> o5m is much better than pbf 13:32 #navit: < Usul> never expected that someone use this format oO 13:32 #navit: <@cp15> It reduced map processing time by 2 hours 13:33 #navit: < Usul> interesting, the usual workflow is to apply diffs at a planet PostGIS DB instead of using files 13:33 #navit: < Usul> but I'm not that familar with the heavy metal stuff at OSM ;) 13:33 #navit: <@cp15> Done that already, it was dead slow after a few days since the database was fragmented all over the disk, so linear files was the way to go 13:34 #navit: < Usul> suprising results, let me understand your choice :) 13:36 #navit: < Usul> I will add an hint at mainpage 13:38 #navit: < Usul> done 13:50 -!- sup_ [c3dd7bd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.221.123.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:02 -!- tragain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:52 -!- ibaraki [4f08f7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.8.247.194] has joined #navit 14:53 #navit: < ibaraki> somebody here is against snakes? o.0 14:55 #navit: <@cp15> No, do you have a snake problem? 16:06 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20 #navit: < ibaraki> no, i was just joking about lines in http://irclogs.navit.ie/%23navit-2012-12-03.log 21:43 and 21:47 16:21 #navit: < Usul> Never make jokes about snakes ;) 16:24 #navit: < Usul> BTW if anybody likes open/free music: http://www.theradio.cc/player5/ (only sometimes german program) 16:24 #navit: < ibaraki> depend wich snake r u talking about 16:25 #navit: < Usul> I remember Otto Walkes (german) "Iam the vipper!" ,9 16:25 #navit: < Usul> ;) 16:39 -!- ibaraki [4f08f7c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.8.247.194] has left #navit [] 16:54 #navit: < Usul> BTW is the GTK GUI abandoned? 17:00 #navit: < Usul> Is it ok to use the TRAC to add minor feature requests? 17:01 #navit: < Usul> Ahhh just OpenID? 17:01 #navit: < Usul> :( 17:02 #navit: <@cp15> Usul, you can use your wiki user 17:03 #navit: < Usul> But externals need an OpenID provider? The spam problem again? 17:04 #navit: <@cp15> Just click on the OpenID icon and enter 17:04 #navit: <@cp15> https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Usul 17:07 -!- Usul [~matthias@stw-103-213.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:19 -!- noradtux_ [~noradtux@e177049000.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 17:21 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:3c43::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:21 -!- noradtux_ is now known as noradtux 17:23 -!- MatthiasM [~matthias@stw-103-144.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 17:42 -!- MatthiasM [~matthias@stw-103-144.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:43 -!- MatthiasM1 [~matthias@stw-103-144.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 17:43 -!- MatthiasM1 is now known as Usul1 18:07 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 18:25 #navit: < Usul1> hello xenos1984 :) 18:25 #navit: < Usul1> Navit has no OpenGL ES support, or? 18:26 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 :) 18:26 #navit: < Usul1> wink ;) 18:31 -!- quixote1 [~mia@cpe-76-167-215-24.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #navit 18:31 -!- quixote1 [~mia@cpe-76-167-215-24.socal.res.rr.com] has left #navit [] 18:41 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052228056.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 19:02 #navit: <@cp15> Usul1, nicht offiziell :-) 19:02 #navit: < Usul1> ok 19:03 #navit: <@cp15> Oder doch, ich glaube das ist sogar drin, aber nicht sehr ansehnlich 19:11 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:35 #navit: < woglinde> hi cp15 19:43 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.11] has joined #navit 20:02 #navit: < Usul1> hi woglinde 20:06 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18 #navit: < tryagain> sup you should be satisfied now 20:40 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48C29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:49 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48C29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:49 #navit: <@cp15> Hi woglinde 21:00 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48C29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 22:19 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.11] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44 #navit: < Usul1> cya 22:44 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@stw-103-144.ras.uni-rostock.de] has left #navit [] 22:54 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052228056.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:56 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48C29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 23:00 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Dec 05 00:00:24 2012