--- Log opened Wed Jan 09 00:00:39 2013
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11:42 #navit: < Maddin_R> I have found an Error. I don't know, what it based... maybe Navit, maybe OSM.
11:42 #navit: < Maddin_R> That is the location: http://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html?zoom=16&lat=51.55681&lon=6.92478&layers=B000
11:44 #navit: < Maddin_R> I'm coming above, from North and want turn right... that's also the entered target in Navit
11:47 #navit: < Maddin_R> the bright Navigation-Line lying over the street and follows my target straight the  highways and turn's correctly to the right
11:49 #navit: < Maddin_R> but if I arrive this Highway-Cross the "Instructor" says "turn left" and an Arrow with left direction is shown.
11:53 #navit: < Maddin_R> So there are different meanings. The road marking is correct, the directional sign/icon is wrong, the voice message is wrong too
11:57 #navit: < Maddin_R> Is there anybody or someone I can tell this bug? Or should I better forgot that?
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12:42 #navit: < vodnik> I have found some bugs, especially: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/439 However, I am still not certain about the solution to my situation. I use Czech locale on my phone, live in France so I want France to be my default country but I would like the directions to be spoken in English.
12:43 #navit: < vodnik> (English sounds much better to me than Czech when using espeak)
12:47 #navit: < vodnik> If I set language="fr_FR" in navit, and I set espeak to speak English, I get the default country to be France but the directions are in Czech with English pronunciations (i.e. not understandable). If I do not set language="fr_FR" and use export LANG=en_GB, I get good directions  in English but the default country is the UK. I can use LC_ALL=en_GB and that works, but there is a warning against it produced by navit. Setting my phone to
12:48 #navit: < vodnik> but I do not want to do it just for navit. Is this something I do incorrectly, a bug a or a design (or wontfix)?
12:48 #navit: < vodnik> (please respond even if I am not here - I will read the logs, but my connection is unstable so I might go offline)
13:09 #navit: <@cp15> Hmm... Interesting use case
13:10 #navit: <@cp15> I don't think this will work in navit yet
13:11 #navit: <@cp15> The translations can only have one locale, so the gui and the announcements will have the same language
13:14 #navit: < vodnik> Should I open a ticket for that? I mean, is it a valid use case for you?
13:14 #navit: <@cp15> I guess a ticket would be right, but it will probably not gain the highest priority
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13:17 #navit: < Usul1> hi @all
13:17 #navit: < vodnik> (btw, can i run two commands in an if expression? like gui.fullscreen==0? command1AND command2 - what is the syntax for it
13:18 #navit: <@cp15> What do you want to do exactly?
13:19 #navit: <@cp15> You can separate two commands with a semicolon
13:20 #navit: < vodnik> yeah, I know, but this is in an if expression that is itself in several commands (commandA;commandB; test==0? [[[command1 command2]]];commandC)
13:21 #navit: < vodnik> what do I put in place of [[[command1 command2]]] so that both command1 and command2 are run when test is 0?
13:27 #navit: < vodnik> Hm, btw, if I set LC_ALL=en_GB in the script I use to launch navit, I get this warning "navit:main_init:Warning: LC_ALL is set, this might lead to problems (e.g. strange positions from GPS)" but the interface and announcements are in English. When I use LANG=en_GB, I do get interface and announcments in French. (I have language="fr_FR" in navit.xml).
13:28 #navit: < vodnik> Why navit picks LC_ALL and not LANG?
13:29 #navit: < vodnik> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/FAQ#Navit_speaks.21_But_it.27s_all_English... seems to suggest that LANG should be enough, or do I misread that?
13:39 #navit: < vodnik> BTW: language="fr_FR" sets just the default country or also the language of the interface? Because for me, it sets just the default country when I run navit normally, but when I run it with `export LANG=en_GB`, it causes the interface and the announcements to be in french (whereas previously they were in Czech according to my locale)
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13:58 #navit: < vodnik> so I made a ticket http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1094 - I think that for me personnaly, just making current language=locale setting just the language of the interface and the language of the announcement and making a new attribute default_country setting the default country would be a solution to my use case.
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14:21 #navit: < vodnik_> Regarding the commands, nevermind, I solved it in a different manner.
14:25 #navit: < vodnik_> I use pngs on my phone (SVGs do not work well i I am well informed, it is an N900) and some SVG files have dimensions that are not square (for example gui_menu.svg is 72x48) so the icons like gui_menu_96_96.png look skewed. There are multiple icons like that (although this is the only one that affects me). Should I bother opening a bug about that?
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15:31 #navit: <@cp15> language=something and export LANG=something should do the same thing
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15:48 #navit: < vodnik_> @cp15 well, they do not. Will the ticket I opened suffice for tracking that? (if it is reproducible)
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17:26 #navit: < vodnik_> <@cp15> Turns out that `unset LC_MESSAGES`;`export LANG=en_GB` changes the language of the interface to English, otherwise language attribute is heeded. The default country to search is respected at all times.) Am I mistaken or should not the attribue take precedence? I added the details to the ticket I opened, I gues solving this will solve my issue as well.
17:26 #navit: < vodnik_> I also changed the wiki to make the use of the language attribute more prominent - there is no need to use locales anyway, right?
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19:16 #navit: < xenos1984> hi everybody
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19:58 #navit: < tryagain> Maddin_R I dont see any problem with osm data at the crossing you have reported. So that's most probably a navit bug.
19:59 #navit: < tryagain> Following our yesterday conversation and other reports, I think there's a bug which breaks navigation, see http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1046#comment:10
20:00 #navit: < tryagain> Your reports are very appreciated
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21:30 #navit: < woglinde> hm tryagain broke
21:30 #navit: < woglinde> ups
21:31 #navit: < tryagain> :)
21:31 #navit: < woglinde> the internal gui menu split up broke gettext
21:31 #navit: < woglinde> will fix it now
21:31 #navit: < tryagain> thats not me, thats not me :)
21:31 #navit: < woglinde> did not look up who it was ;)
21:32 #navit: < tryagain> so youd better had fixed it silently ;)
21:33 #navit: < tryagain> btw have you seen a spirit of korrosa around?
21:33 #navit: < woglinde> only on year change
21:33 #navit: < tryagain> he was here ~24 hours ago. It would be great if he come back.
21:34 #navit: < woglinde> call him
21:34 #navit: < woglinde> haha
21:34 #navit: < tryagain> only Number6 can do it
21:35 #navit: < woglinde> ah cp15 himself broke it
21:35 #navit: < woglinde> or forgot
21:35 #navit: < woglinde> are you commiting something now?
21:38 #navit: < tryagain> no, I just have reverted a bug
21:43 #navit: < woglinde> lol
21:46 #navit: < tryagain> night all
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21:52 #navit: < woglinde> hm
21:52 #navit: < woglinde> now he is gone where pot stuff is back
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23:05 #navit: < marioso> hello
23:06 #navit: < woglinde> hi
23:10 #navit: < marioso> i updated navit to r5337 from bokomoko.de repo for N900/maemo and i noticed some settings are in english still. my localization is italian. what can i do to fix the translation? submit a patch?
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23:17 #navit: < woglinde> nope
23:17 #navit: < woglinde> uhms
23:17 #navit: < woglinde> why he left
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