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03:13 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
03:13 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: PROBLEM
03:13 #navit: < Navit> Service: Current Load
03:13 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
03:13 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
03:13 #navit: < Navit> State: WARNING
03:13 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Mon Jan 28 04:18:47 CET 2013
03:13 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
03:13 #navit: < Navit> WARNING - load average: 2.29, 3.43, 3.15
03:23 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
03:23 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: RECOVERY
03:23 #navit: < Navit> Service: Current Load
03:23 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
03:23 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
03:23 #navit: < Navit> State: OK
03:23 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Mon Jan 28 04:28:47 CET 2013
03:23 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
03:23 #navit: < Navit> OK - load average: 2.60, 2.90, 2.99
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09:25 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
09:25 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: RECOVERY
09:25 #navit: < Navit> Service: Work Filesystem
09:25 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
09:25 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
09:25 #navit: < Navit> State: OK
09:26 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Mon Jan 28 10:31:17 CET 2013
09:26 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
09:26 #navit: < Navit> DISK OK - free space: /work 40240 MB (28% inode=95%):
10:02 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 ping
10:07 #navit: < woglinde> hm okay resolved
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13:39 #navit: < woglinde> hm we need a gpsd reconnect function
14:05 #navit: <@cp15> Because gpsd crashes so often?
14:07 #navit: < woglinde> not but in case
14:07 #navit: < woglinde> gpsd_dbus of course is not problem
14:07 #navit: < woglinde> hm hm
14:08 #navit: < woglinde> okay
14:08 #navit: < woglinde> maybee its not needed so urgent
14:08 #navit: < woglinde> but would be nice
14:08 #navit: < woglinde> there is some bug with the osd next_turn stuff sometimes it getting no updates
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18:53 #navit: < xenos1984> hi everybody
18:55 #navit: < tryagain> hi xenos1984
18:55 #navit: < xenos1984> hi tryagain
18:57 #navit: < woglinde> hi tryagain
18:57 #navit: < tryagain> hi woglinde
18:57 #navit: < woglinde> hm there is a problem with some osd stuff
18:57 #navit: < xenos1984> hi woglinde ;)
18:57 #navit: < tryagain> fix it :)
18:57 #navit: < woglinde> yes will try tomorrow
18:58 #navit: < woglinde> some fields are getting not always refreshed
18:58 #navit: < woglinde> or actulized
18:59 #navit: < tryagain> any idea what's going wrong?
19:01 #navit: < woglinde> hm I thinking that the callbacks maybee have some problems
19:04 #navit: < tryagain> i've been patching osd code few weeks ago to get rid of some items being displayed on top of gui_internal...
19:06 #navit: < woglinde> not its a longer problem
19:06 #navit: < woglinde> since 47xx
19:07 #navit: < woglinde> or earlier
19:07 #navit: < tryagain> is it reproduceable with demo vehicle?
19:07 #navit: < woglinde> do not think so
19:07 #navit: < woglinde> but we have a track now
19:07 #navit: < woglinde> which render it
19:08 #navit: < tryagain> when you connect that track to file vehicle?
19:08 #navit: < woglinde> problem is turn_around and destination length
19:08 #navit: < woglinde> I use gpsdfake
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19:09 #navit: < woglinde> hm I did not try if it happens with gpsd_dbus
19:09 #navit: < tryagain> so it might be a vehicle driver related problem...
19:10 #navit: < dazi> hi
19:10 #navit: < tryagain> hi dazi
19:10 #navit: < dazi> is anyone from the navit-team here?
19:10 #navit: < tryagain> dont shoot us
19:10 #navit: < dazi> :-)
19:11 #navit: < dazi> sorry - i dnt know who is who
19:11 #navit: < dazi> my question: is there any strategy in the development of navit?
19:11 #navit: < dazi> any plan?
19:12 #navit: < dazi> what are the items which should be done before a new release is made
19:14 #navit: < tryagain> well i'm unsure what are actual milestones for next release. But we release useable svn builds every day.
19:14 #navit: < tryagain> brb
19:15 #navit: < dazi> hm...
19:15 #navit: < dazi> is there something like a change-log?
19:16 #navit: < dazi> where i can see the differences between two svn-releases?
19:16 #navit: < woglinde> we have no release plan
19:16 #navit: < woglinde> depends a lot on cp15
19:16 #navit: < dazi> :-)
19:17 #navit: < dazi> he was the one who asked me for some patience .-)
19:17 #navit: < dazi> no problem with that. but how long is "patience"? :-)
19:18 #navit: < xenos1984> here you can see the changes on svn: http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit/trunk/?view=log
19:18 #navit: < dazi> one week? 1 month? 1 year?
19:18 #navit: < dazi> we've been talking about some problems I have.
19:19 #navit: < dazi> So I would know, when I can try again
19:21 #navit: < dazi> hm ... gateway-timeout :-)
19:41 #navit: < tryagain> that link is commit log, so it has all the changes made since stone age.
19:42 #navit: < tryagain> you may look at the commit mailing list archives here http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=navit-cvs-commit&source=navbar
19:49 #navit: < dazi> that works :-)
19:50 #navit: < dazi> even the log-messages are not of the type I like ;-)
19:50 #navit: < dazi> increase buffer here, increase static buffer there
19:51 #navit: < dazi> i need messages like "decrease" :-)
19:56 #navit: < dazi> another question regarding the default navit.xml:
19:56 #navit: < tryagain> we'll try to decrease something for you ;)
19:56 #navit: < dazi> :-) :-) :-)
19:56 #navit: < dazi> wow
19:57 #navit: < dazi> then probably I can use navit to navigate :-)
19:57 #navit: < dazi> regarding the XML...
19:58 #navit: < dazi> there is some HTML-part included. this part seems to be deactivated
19:58 #navit: < dazi> how can I acivate it?
20:00 #navit: < tryagain> it's activated. But it's automatically translated to your locale.
20:00 #navit: < dazi> ahh :-)
20:01 #navit: < tryagain> we have translations tables which contain almost all standard messages in all supported messages, which allow them to be translated on the fly
20:02 #navit: < tryagain> supported messages-> supported  languages
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20:39 #navit: < dazi> sorry ... had a phonecall
20:40 #navit: < dazi> so ... how can i rename one item
20:40 #navit: < dazi> ?
20:41 #navit: < dazi> example: instead of "Ort" I would like to call it "navigieren zu"
20:42 #navit: < woglinde> change the po file
20:45 #navit: < dazi> hm ...
20:45 #navit: < dazi> probably not necessary
20:46 #navit: < dazi> when this HTML-part is active, but automatically translated, then it may work in case I only rename it
20:46 #navit: < dazi> from "Ort to "navigieren zu"
20:46 #navit: < tryagain> sure, if you do not need internationalization support, simply write navigieren zu where you see "Town"
20:46 #navit: < dazi> :-)
20:47 #navit: < dazi> Same like "Former destinations"
20:47 #navit: < dazi> this is also displayed in english ... without translation
20:48 #navit: < woglinde> which version?
20:48 #navit: < dazi> and then I even can place "navigieren zu" one level higher
20:48 #navit: < dazi> 5333
20:48 #navit: < woglinde> http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit/trunk/navit/po/de.po.in?r1=5356&r2=5355&pathrev=5356
20:51 #navit: < dazi> ??? that means what?
20:51 #navit: < dazi> in 5356 it is translated?
20:51 #navit: < woglinde> maybee
20:52 #navit: < dazi> well ... its nice, but not essential
20:53 #navit: < dazi> the important thing is, that i can modify the menu. and even change the hirarchy
20:54 #navit: < woglinde> btw.
20:54 #navit: < woglinde> msgid "Former Destinations"
20:54 #navit: < woglinde> msgstr "Vorherige Ziele"
20:54 #navit: < woglinde> so its there
20:55 #navit: < woglinde> ah right you have the old version
20:55 #navit: < woglinde> I fixed it
20:55 #navit: < woglinde> menu got splitted up
20:55 #navit: < dazi> yes, i found that. but i dnt what the meaning of that is
20:56 #navit: < dazi> ... dnt know ...
20:56 #navit: < woglinde> look at revision 5339
20:56 #navit: < woglinde> ?
20:57 #navit: < woglinde> you define internationalization strings and tell the internationalization system in which files to look
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20:57 #navit: < dazi> well ... i think i will wait for tryagain and the "slim-version" :-)
20:57 #navit: < woglinde> gui internal got splitted up into serval files without telling the internationalization system
20:57 #navit: < woglinde> o.O
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20:58 #navit: < woglinde> than dont ask if you dont want explanations or solutions
20:58 #navit: < dazi> sorry
20:58 #navit: < dazi> i ask for help
20:58 #navit: < dazi> not for digging into navits internals
20:59 #navit: < dazi> appologize to be a stupid user
21:00 #navit: < dazi> maybe next year I will know, what an internal gui split of an international system is.
21:00 #navit: < dazi> but up to now ... i dnt know
21:01 #navit: < dazi> but I try hard .-)
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21:02 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> hello guys!
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21:03 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> I need a bit of information on the navit command interface - is someone online who's familiar with it?
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21:06 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> there's a difference in the wiki and the trac I don't understand
21:11 #navit: < woglinde> hm
21:11 #navit: < woglinde> which one?
21:12 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> if you take a look at http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD#cmd_interface you see some kind of case or if statement
21:12 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> according to http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/897 this option is outdated
21:13 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> is there still an option for some kind of if statement
21:13 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> ?
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21:24 #navit: <@cp15> NavitGuiGuy, what do you want to do?
21:25 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> write a changing text in the osd telling the autozoom is on/auto or off/fix and the same with the follow vehicle option
21:26 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> the example from the wiki is easy to understand but after this change i found in the trac i'm off the track :-)
21:29 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> so i tried to check navit.autozoom_active and display the right text just like in the example someone/you/they did with the route status
21:30 #navit: <@cp15> For follow there is an example in android
21:30 #navit: <@cp15> <osd type="button" src="cursor_64_64.png" command="follow=0;set_center_cursor()" x="-120" y="80" enable_expression="follow&gt;1"/>
21:31 #navit: <@cp15> Clear what happens there?
21:31 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> yes - but the button/img does not change
21:32 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> right?
21:32 #navit: <@cp15> It only appears if follow > 1 (enable_expression)
21:32 #navit: <@cp15> Let me check whether dynamic images are possible
21:34 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, theoretically it is... But how to put this into a button is a good question
21:34 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> that would mean, i write two statements one enabled on follow=0 and one enabled on follow=1 ?
21:35 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> the enable expression is like the "enabled" statement?
21:35 #navit: <@cp15> Yes
21:35 #navit: <@cp15> But it might not work on all cases, only where the object emits a callback when the attribute is changed
21:36 #navit: <@cp15> But it can be fixed if you need it
21:37 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> well.. need... would be nice to see it / be able to change it somewhere
21:38 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> there is no button or option in the menu but sometimes it's good to change the default behavior
21:38 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> The button is no problem
21:39 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> i just put another "text osd" over it
21:39 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> so the "info" is "behind" the button
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> Overlapping osds is no good idea... The order they appear isn't defined
21:41 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> one is just text the other one reacts onclick
21:41 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> if there is no osd that has a function the main menu starts
21:41 #navit: <@cp15> Maybe clickable text would be better?
21:42 #navit: <@cp15> Can you explain your last sentence?
21:43 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> imagine a compass in the upper right corner - (internal gui) - when you touch the compass the menu opens
21:44 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, so you want the command attribute for the compass?
21:45 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> i've put a second empty osd text there with the same dimension and position - with the command to toggle the orientation
21:45 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> works fine
21:45 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> bad idea?
21:46 #navit: <@cp15> Well, a workaround I would say... Enabling command for the compass is probably cleaner
21:46 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> does it have a command option atm?
21:47 #navit: <@cp15> No, but if you want it...
21:48 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 are you tomorrow in the chat?
21:48 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> ok... then i would say put it on the wish list - but at the end, as you can see there's a workaround :-)
21:50 #navit: <@cp15> woglinde, probably yes
21:51 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> oh - now i see what you mean with the change attribute
21:52 #navit: < woglinde> okay I will try to debug the osd problem with not always refreshing next_turn and resuming destination length
21:52 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> even if i click the button there's no need to change the text osd
21:52 #navit: < woglinde> good nite
21:53 #navit: < Navit> martin-s * r5358 /trunk/navit/navit/osd/core/osd_core.c: Add:osd_core:Support command attribute for compass http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit?view=revision&revision=5358
21:53 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> woglinde gn
21:53 #navit: <@cp15> woglinde, I assume it is related to the fact it is only updated on a gps position update
21:53 #navit: <@cp15> NavitGuiGuy, should work now :-)
21:53 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 no
21:54 #navit: < woglinde> we have gps postion changes
21:54 #navit: < woglinde> we made a track
21:54 #navit: < woglinde> I can give it to you too
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> so now I am really off
21:56 #navit: <@cp15> gn
21:56 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> cp15 - thanks! - cmake is running
21:58 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> the "problem" with updating the text - maybe a "back_to_map()" can solve that - but i have to check that first!
21:59 #navit: <@cp15> I will also go to bed soon. Maybe we can continue tomorrow or write me a mail: My irc nick (at) navit-project.org
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22:01 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> I'll come back - don't know when but I'll be here!
22:01 #navit: <@cp15> And maybe you can send me your osd-specific navit.xml so we can discuss how to improve navit and/or the osd configs
22:01 #navit: <@cp15> gn
22:01 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> gn
22:04 #navit: < NavitGuiGuy> gn!
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