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01:35 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5532.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-5532.failed
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09:07 #navit: < Tauso> Hello, just a short question: why are the maps on maps.navit-project.org on such a differnet state? (maps5: 27.05., maps7: 15.4., maps6: 9.6.)
09:10 #navit: < Tauso> It also seams, that maps6 doesnt work: "Selected planet does not exist"
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13:22 #navit: < mcr42> @cp15: Where should I send patches?
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19:07 #navit: < Usul1> hi @all
19:13 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 :)
19:13 #navit: < Usul1> how are you xenos1984?
19:13 #navit: < xenos1984> well, a bit exhausted by the temperatures and writing a paper... what about you?
19:14 #navit: < Usul1> I think ok
19:14 #navit: < Usul1> Had you seen the "hall of fame"? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Team
19:15 #navit: < xenos1984> yes :) looks quite good
19:15 #navit: < Usul1> at least people I never saw, but I don't want to kick contributors out, so everybody is welcome to correct my classification ;)
19:15 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, is the double line between Mineque and me on purpose?
19:16 #navit: < Usul1> ups
19:16 #navit:  * Usul1 yes its to seperate xenos1984 from all the others ;)
19:16 #navit: < xenos1984> i see ;)
19:16 #navit: < Usul1> *fixed*
19:17 #navit: < Usul1> but what about all the other here in the chan?
19:17 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... actually i don't know more than you
19:17 #navit: < Usul1> BTW I saw EvanE at our wiki :)
19:18 #navit: < xenos1984> oh, nice ;)
19:19 #navit: < Usul1> I think he was very busy to write the osm wiki navit manuales...
19:19 #navit: < Usul1> Oh and alx seems to be interested in somewhat fleet management ability (or at least posprocess drivers routes) http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User_talk:Alx
19:20 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, good to know :)
19:21 #navit: < Usul1> And did missed anything on the chan today?
19:23 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i don't know, i've been at work during the day
19:29 #navit: < Usul1> oh and BTW at lunch I checked your website. Lot of interesting details ;)
19:30 #navit: < xenos1984> thanks a lot ;) ah... which one? i have several ;)
19:31 #navit: < Usul1> I think that one that is linked in your forums profile
19:31 #navit: < xenos1984> forum profile... when have i changed that last time...
19:31 #navit: < Usul1> no, the navit forums of course :P
19:32 #navit: < xenos1984> right, but that was more than 24 hours ago, it's hard to remmember ;)
19:32 #navit: < Usul1> ;)
19:32 #navit: < xenos1984> but i think i know :)
19:32 #navit: < Usul1> maybe another geek aspect ;)
19:33 #navit: < Usul1> but your skills are very impressive. I just hate math and complex theories ^^
19:34 #navit: < xenos1984> well, my skills are purely theoretical and more than compensated by a lack of practical skills ;)
19:34 #navit: < Usul1> hehe ;)
19:35 #navit: < Usul1> no I don't think so. But a know a lot of "theoretical" people, who think that they aren't skilled to use a screwdriver :P
19:35 #navit: < xenos1984> i can use a screwdriver! but without pre-made food i would die (or have to eat rain worms)
19:36 #navit: < Usul1> mhhh rainworms *yummy* :D
19:36 #navit: < Usul1> maybe you should give fresh salad a chance ;)
19:36 #navit: < xenos1984> salad doesn't give as much energy as klingon gagh ;)
19:37 #navit: < Usul1> but klingons have 2 hearts, so cholesterol doesn't matter :P
19:38 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i knew there was a downside...
19:38 #navit: < Usul1> BTW I contacted a klingon speaker and asked if it might be possible to translate navit to klingon ^^
19:38 #navit: < xenos1984> what did he say? ;)
19:39 #navit: < Usul1> currently no answer, but I'm optimistic :)
19:39 #navit: < xenos1984> i wonder whether one can use navit on a bird of prey...
19:40 #navit: < Usul1> we already have a LCARS, I think a klingon empire OSD isn't that far away :P
19:40 #navit: < xenos1984> would be nice :)
19:44 #navit: < Usul1> EvanE asked about a VM for compiling Android port. Is the port currently maintained?
19:45 #navit: < xenos1984> i think it is, but i don't remember by whom
19:46 #navit: < Usul1> is it praenki? (wiki history)
19:47 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... no idea... but i don't remember this name, so i might not know at all
19:47 #navit: < Usul1> np
19:48 #navit: < Usul1> I asked a friend to try it on his android smartphone, maybe I get feedback
19:49 #navit: < xenos1984> that would be good
19:49 #navit: < xenos1984> btw, conrad completely messed up my order for the nexus 7 -.-
19:49 #navit: < Usul1> oh noooooooo :(
19:49 #navit: < xenos1984> i got their invoice
19:49 #navit: < xenos1984> 60 euros for a memory stick and a car mount
19:49 #navit: < xenos1984> no tablet
19:49 #navit: < Usul1> so they send it to your parents?
19:50 #navit: < xenos1984> nope, didn't send it at all
19:50 #navit: < xenos1984> even though it should be on stock
19:50 #navit: < Usul1> hum? was no more availabe?
19:50 #navit: < xenos1984> hard to believe... but what shall i do with only memory and car mount?
19:51 #navit: < Usul1> take a paper block...
19:51 #navit: < Usul1> ...and draw a navit OSD on top :P
19:51 #navit: < Usul1> then just plugin the stick and you can navigate ^^
19:51 #navit: < Usul1> no, just joking, thats really sad :/
19:52 #navit: < xenos1984> well, if you port navit to paper blocks, i'll give it a try - but with voice output, please ;)
19:53 #navit: < Usul1> ;)
19:54 #navit: < xenos1984> "sofort lieferbar"
19:54 #navit: < xenos1984> that website is not up to date -.-
19:55 #navit: < Usul1> hr hr thank you conrad :(
19:55 #navit: < xenos1984> ah... " -Lieferung erfolgt separat"
19:55 #navit: < xenos1984> lets see
20:03 #navit: < Usul1> aaaand?
20:04 #navit: < Usul1> will they pay the 2nd shipping?
20:04 #navit: < xenos1984> i guess so
20:04 #navit: < xenos1984> at least i won't pay more ;)
20:05 #navit: < xenos1984> well, actually i don't pay anyway :)
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20:06 #navit: < xenos1984> this is "required equipment for conference travels" and thus paid by my grant :)
20:07 #navit: < Usul1> ah perfectly :)
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20:11 #navit: < xenos1984> wtf?
20:11 #navit: < xenos1984> http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/879003/Asus-Google-Nexus-7-Internet-Tablet-32-GB-1778-cm-7-Tegra-3-Quad-Core-Prozessor-Android-41-Tablet-PC
20:12 #navit: < xenos1984> "-Lieferung leider nur innerhalb Deutschlands möglich"
20:12 #navit: < xenos1984> why did they at first confirm this and asked me to pay for it???
20:12 #navit: < Usul1> "Dier Artikel ist nur noch so lange der Vorrat reicht erhältlich"
20:12 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that too
20:13 #navit: < xenos1984> but if they don't deliver to estonia, why did they want the money from me? o.O
20:13 #navit: < Usul1> hmm...strange
20:14 #navit: < xenos1984> well, i guess i will ask them...
20:15 #navit: < Usul1> yeah, really strange
20:21 #navit: < xenos1984> well, at least there are also some better news...
20:22 #navit: < Usul1> ?
20:22 #navit: < xenos1984> i recently submitted a paper to a major journal - just got the message that it was accepted :)
20:22 #navit: < Usul1> congarts!
20:23 #navit: < xenos1984> thanks! :)
20:24 #navit: < Usul1> is the topic understandable for outsiders?
20:25 #navit: < xenos1984> well... it could be a bit hard... it's very mathematical
20:25 #navit: < Usul1> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (homer) ;)
20:25 #navit: < xenos1984> http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.5430
20:26 #navit: < Usul1> WTH OO
20:26 #navit: < xenos1984> i warned you ;)
20:27 #navit: < Usul1> sorry, I just understood Quantum, nothing more :/
20:28 #navit: < xenos1984> oh, actually it's not about quantum... stuff
20:28 #navit: < xenos1984> only geometry :)
20:28 #navit: < Usul1> sorry, not my topic :)
20:30 #navit: < xenos1984> i see ;) i guess i will feel just the same if i see your master thesis ;)
20:30 #navit: < Usul1> no, it's not that difficult. Just grid stuff and GIS
20:31 #navit: < xenos1984> difficult enough for someone with only theoretical skills ;)
20:31 #navit: < Usul1> no, it's very limited ;)
20:34 #navit: < xenos1984> just like my understanding of these things ;)
20:34 #navit: < Usul1> ok, accepted :)
20:38 #navit: < Usul1> I contacted praenki, let's see what the says about android
20:38 #navit: < xenos1984> good :)
20:43 #navit: < Usul1> Oh just one last question (for today): How can I commit changes to the project?
20:43 #navit: < xenos1984> to the code?
20:44 #navit: < Usul1> I want to lift the readme and (maybe) the navit.xml
20:44 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i see ;) do you have a sourceforge account?
20:45 #navit: < Usul1> yes
20:45 #navit: < xenos1984> i think it's the easiest if you send a message to cp15 on sourceforge so he can add your account to the developer list
20:45 #navit: < xenos1984> then you get svn write permission
20:45 #navit: < Usul1> ok so I will have svn access?
20:46 #navit: < xenos1984> yes
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20:46 #navit: < xenos1984> https://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/HEAD/tree/ - here's also the svn command
20:46 #navit: < Usul1> hmm, is there something like a "staging" concept, so my changes doesn't run directly through the mainline?
20:47 #navit: < xenos1984> nope, everything you commit will arrive at all users ;)
20:48 #navit: < Usul1> maybe not the right thing, as I have only very basic svn/code knowledge :/
20:48 #navit: < xenos1984> well, you can test your local copy ;)
20:49 #navit: < xenos1984> https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/SVN_guidelines
20:54 #navit: < Usul1> hmm ok
20:55 #navit: < Usul1> maybe I will ask cp15 before starting anything. In a first step its only removing unnessesary docs from readme and navit.xml, so we have only to maintain informations in the wiki
20:56 #navit: < Usul1> so good night gentlemen :)
20:56 #navit: < Usul1> cya
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21:04 #navit: < tryagain> Tauso we had recently problems building map and syncing it with the mirrors. I hope it will be updated to 130610 within a few minutes and will stay in sync until something will go out of control again.
21:05 #navit: < tryagain> maps7 is broken so it will remain with 130415 for now
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