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01:31 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5539.failed
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08:13 #navit: < Usul1> good morning
08:15 #navit: < Usul1> I would need some help to confirm a bug in navit.xml in svn5385
08:16 #navit: < xenos1984> good morning Usul1 ;)
08:16 #navit: < Usul1> It turns out, that some POI labels are hidden :/
08:16 #navit: < Usul1> hi xenos1984 I guess I isolated the bug
08:16 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, great
08:16 #navit: < Usul1> it's not the data, but a change in the poi labels config
08:16 #navit: < Usul1> but I don't see why it should be a bug :/
08:17 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... so in which way did you change the config?
08:17 #navit: < Usul1> no, it's not my edit. It's a change in the SVN that causes that problem
08:18 #navit: < xenos1984> ah...
08:18 #navit: < Usul1> there was a edit which introduces more religion and that seems to be the problem
08:18 #navit: < Usul1> maybe it's a string overflow or something like that
08:19 #navit: < xenos1984> i see - but it seems i don't have it in 5539
08:19 #navit: < xenos1984> have you checked with a newer version? maybe this has been fixed?
08:20 #navit: < Usul1> give me a minute
08:25 #navit: < Usul1> where is the navit.xml stored in the svn? the xslt contains only seperate sections.
08:27 #navit: < xenos1984> navit/navit_shipped.xml
08:32 #navit: < Usul1> ok, so I need a more up to date binary
08:32 #navit: < Usul1> is there an easy way for Ubuntu without compiling on your own?
08:36 #navit: < xenos1984> actually compiling on ubuntu is easy ;) or the easiest way i know
08:37 #navit: < xenos1984> where did you get your current version? aren't there more up to date ones available?
08:37 #navit: < Usul1> Im not sure if its still the default ubuntu one
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08:38 #navit: < xenos1984> default (on 12.04) is 4776
08:40 #navit: < xenos1984> actually my recommendation would be to compile it on your own - it works more or less out of the box, and when you've done it once, you can just update an recompile in one step and always use / test the most up to date version
08:40 #navit: < Usul1> ok so I will continue my testing on desktop in my vm
08:41 #navit: < Usul1> I updated my wince and it works fine
08:41 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, great
08:43 #navit: < xenos1984> btw, i just saw that qemu can simulate N800 and N810 - maybe if i have some time i can try to run navit on those, just as a test
08:44 #navit: < Usul1> but it still doens't display firebrigades an public_office
08:44 #navit: < Usul1> but churches and others xD
08:44 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... interesting
08:45 #navit: < Usul1> doesn't matter, I think I will take a look at the evening, when I return
08:46 #navit: < Usul1> now my thesis, you know ;)
08:46 #navit: < Usul1> cya
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12:39 #navit: < Avulon> hello
13:15 #navit: < Avulon> Can anyone give some guidance on compiling navit for the Raspberry Pi? Hopefully with the ability to run  using SDL
13:16 #navit: < Avulon> This would be compiled using archlinux.
13:16 #navit: < Avulon> on the Pi
13:34 #navit: < xenos1984> Avulon: so far there is only a set of instructions for raspbian
13:34 #navit: < xenos1984> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi
14:49 #navit: < Avulon> Thanks for the link, don't know how I missed it before.
14:50 #navit: < Avulon> I'll give it a go, translating to arch as I go.
15:05 #navit: < Avulon> Cmake giving errors http://pastebin.com/JfktP7WA looks like Cmake requires further config?  just installed it using pacman -S cmake
15:56 #navit: < Avulon> Had to re-install 'make' now got it working, will wait and see what happens next
16:04 #navit: < xenos1984> great to hear - i guess the build process should take ~ 90 minutes according to this user: https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=405
16:14 #navit: < Avulon> thanks xenos1984, will see what happens. cmake has now finished - so now running make
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16:23 #navit: < Usul1> hi again :)
16:56 #navit: < Avulon> Oh well, that did get a lot further but ended with errors in vehicle_gpsd, I've pasted the relevant part of the output http://pastebin.com/hnjqJ3LW
16:57 #navit: < Avulon> this seems to be an error in the source code.
17:10 #navit: < xenos1984> Avulon: do you have gpsd development libraries installed?
17:10 #navit: < xenos1984> they are required for building this module
17:10 #navit: < xenos1984> the error in the log comes from missing gpsd header files
17:36 #navit: < Avulon> OK, thanks - I can't seem to find a dev package for gpsd for arch, so I've downloaded the gpsd sources (same version as I'm using) I've added the gpsd source directory to my PATH and will try 'make' again.
17:47 #navit: < Avulon> That looks like it's done the trick, compile is now proceeding.  If this one doesn't work I'll probably take a break for today and come back to it later in the week.  Thanks a lot for your help
17:48 #navit: < Avulon> Should just say, if the compile complets successfully I'll post here.
18:01 #navit: < xenos1984> very good
18:01 #navit: < xenos1984> if it works out, we should also add this to the wiki
18:02 #navit: < Usul1> BTW  Avulon you are more than welcome to add some details to the wiki for building navit :) http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Download#ArchLinux
18:07 #navit: < Avulon> If i get it to work I'll do what I can, just failed again at the same point - it seems having gpsd source on the path is not enough - other distributions have gpsd-dev or gpsd-devel packages but not arch on rpi :(
18:07 #navit: < Usul1> oh rpi (again), cool :)
18:09 #navit: < xenos1984> Avulon: to which path variable did you add the gpsd sources? the proper way would be to build gpsd from source and install it, so the headers will end up in the right directory, or otherwise to add the directory with gpsd headers to your include path
18:09 #navit: < Avulon> maybe cool  - not sure, but not easy with arch, unfortunately it had to be arch for the quick boot time - as has been and will be working in the car and needs to be available asap from ign on.
18:09 #navit: < xenos1984> i.e. append "-I /path/to/headers" to CFLAGS
18:10 #navit: < xenos1984> but i recommend building and installing gpsd from source
18:14 #navit: < Usul1> We already had users that run rpi with debian. But maybe you are right, that the bootup sucks :/
18:15 #navit: < Avulon> Yes, debian nearly a minute to boot up arch < 20 secs to userland.
18:15 #navit: < Usul1> yay OO
18:15 #navit: < Avulon> But you do have to learn systemd
18:18 #navit: < Usul1> FYI you are welcome to play around with my redmine setup:
18:18 #navit: < Usul1> http://oneofx.draco.uberspace.de/redmine/projects/navit-test
18:21 #navit: < Avulon> Thx Usul1, what is redmine? appears to require a login as well?
18:21 #navit: < Avulon> Currentlyn building gpsd from source btw
18:21 #navit: < Usul1> Oh, sorry this is more related to the dev team itself
18:21 #navit: < Usul1> it should replace the TRAC system
18:22 #navit: < Usul1> So, yes somehow releated to endusers, too ;)
19:05 #navit: < Avulon> gpsd compiled , watch out though as the tests use Python and require Python2 (installed) but only request 'Python' so fails on the tests skipped to uudev-install and gpsd all working as expected (using cgps)
19:06 #navit: < Avulon> btw entered lat and long into google maps and pin points the back of my house (where the antennae is) - maps gives wrong house number tho, :)
19:08 #navit: < Avulon> now retrying the build of Navit - i saw the gpsd headers going to somewhere in /usr/local as the gpsd build progressed so hopefully third time lucky.
19:09 #navit: < Avulon> not holding my breath - gonna go and do something else while that builds (or not).
19:19 #navit: < Usul1> ahhh Avulon uses Google Maps! ;)
19:21 #navit: < Avulon> oops, is that an evil way to test the gps fix?
19:21 #navit: < Usul1> no, not really. "All maps are equal" ;)
19:21 #navit: < Usul1> ( xenos1984 and myself are openstreetmapper ) :)
19:24 #navit: < Avulon> ahh nice, but it's not brave enough to take a guess at the house number! :) (must bookmark - loads quicker than google)
19:36 #navit: < Usul1> If here is anybody familar with the android port, we have a question about a (possible) broken search:
19:36 #navit: < Usul1> https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=410
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19:40 #navit: < Avulon> laptop crashed -
19:40 #navit: < Avulon> back now
19:58 #navit: < Usul1> xenos1984: thx for the hint "W wie Wissen" :)
19:58 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: no problem ;)
19:59 #navit: < Usul1> I think I read that you have to use a wheelchair?
19:59 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's true
20:00 #navit: < Usul1> So what do you say, makes wheelmap sense? Don't missunderstand me, but it's sometimes hard for "usual" mappers to understand if such details are good enough?
20:00 #navit: < xenos1984> well, it does make some sense, because one can see which places are accessible and which are not
20:01 #navit: < xenos1984> also rollstuhlkarte.ch is useful
20:01 #navit: < Usul1> and are the informations reliable?
20:01 #navit: < xenos1984> i haven't tested it intensively
20:02 #navit: < Usul1> so you usually just try restaurants etc?
20:02 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, since here this information is mostly not yet present
20:02 #navit: < xenos1984> of course i enter it, if possible ;)
20:03 #navit: < Usul1> :)
20:03 #navit: < Usul1> But raul is a nice guy, I had some chats/calls with him.
20:03 #navit: < xenos1984> it also depends on whether i'm alone or in company, so a few people could just lift me
20:03 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i see
20:04 #navit: < Usul1> OMG, I guess noone can lift me ;)
20:05 #navit: < xenos1984> fortunately my weight is < wheelchair:maxweight ;)
20:05 #navit: < Usul1> ^^
20:05 #navit: < Usul1> But when I understand you correct, it would be not that easy to organise a team meeting, right?
20:06 #navit: < xenos1984> well, depends on the place ;)
20:06 #navit: < Usul1> yeah, so I'm not sure if CCC would be the right place :/
20:06 #navit: < xenos1984> in principle i have no problems with travelling, but germany is a bit far
20:06 #navit: < xenos1984> an i'm not there that often
20:07 #navit: < Usul1> yep. Maybe I should just start with meeting with Martin in January or something like that
20:07 #navit: < xenos1984> that's good - i'll let you know when i'm in gemany ;)
20:08 #navit: < Usul1> I think I posted something in the forums weeks ago, so just use the thread
20:08 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, i think i saw it
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20:45 #navit: < Avulon> woop '[100%] Built target locales' :)
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21:13 #navit: < Avulon> thanks for all the help, I've now got a compiled version that appears to run, I'll hook up a monitor tommorrow and see how it goes. Goodnight :)
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21:19 #navit: < Usul1> cya
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