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01:29 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5539.failed
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09:23 #navit: < Mineque> hi
09:24 #navit: < Mineque> guys who is from Norway? ;)
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09:34 #navit: <@cp15> I think burner was... But I haven't seen him for years
09:34 #navit: < ventYl> burned to ash
09:34 #navit: < Usul1> morning everybody :)
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09:54 #navit: < Usul1> cya
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09:59 #navit: < Mineque> cp15: thanks for the info.
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11:11 #navit: < ZeroOne01> someone should change the svn link on the wiki page - as i read in the logs there is a new one right?
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12:48 #navit: < xenos1984> ZeroOne01: good point, i will do this
12:50 #navit: < xenos1984> ...provided i figure out where it is in the page source
12:52 #navit: < xenos1984> done
12:56 #navit: < ZeroOne01> THX
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17:12 #navit: < technomancy> any ideas what would cause a crash when setting a destination? http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1132
17:16 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: from where did you get the map you're using? i would try it with a different map and see whether it happens again
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17:16 #navit: < technomancy> xenos1984: I've tried it with two maps from http://maps3.navit-project.org/
17:16 #navit: < technomancy> I can try downloading another though
17:17 #navit: < xenos1984> and it happens for any destination?
17:17 #navit: < technomancy> every destination I've tried, yeah
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17:19 #navit: < technomancy> ah, ok--with this new map I can now set a destination using the GUI
17:19 #navit: < technomancy> but when I try to set it using dbus it still crashes with "assertion failed:r2->lu.y >= r2->rl.y"
17:20 #navit: < technomancy> is this still a supported dbus call? dbus-send  --print-reply --session --dest=org.navit_project.navit /org/navit_project/navit/default_navit org.navit_project.navit.navit.set_destination string: "geo: 48.0 -122.0" string: "comment"
17:20 #navit: < technomancy> maybe I'm formatting the coordinates wrong?
17:21 #navit: < xenos1984> i'm afraid i never used dbus ;) but at least it works with the GUI... let me see what may cause this problem
17:22 #navit: < xenos1984> it seems to check whether some rectangle is valid, i.e., y coord of left upper corner > right lower corner
17:22 #navit: < xenos1984> >=
17:23 #navit: < technomancy> yeah, makes me think it's interpreting the coordinates the wrong way
17:23 #navit: < technomancy> outdated wiki docs probably?
17:24 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... it's possible...
17:24 #navit: < xenos1984> but maybe some of the dbus experts knows better
17:33 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: could you please set the debug level for navit:coord_parse to 3 in your navit.xml an post a new debug log?
17:35 #navit: < technomancy> sure
17:37 #navit: < technomancy> http://p.hagelb.org/navit-coord-parse.html
17:37 #navit: < technomancy> looks like it's using mg projection?
17:37 #navit: < technomancy> man, what I wouldn't give for a proper repl
17:40 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, indeed, internally navit uses mg
17:41 #navit: < xenos1984> i'm wondering why there is no geo projection showing up
17:41 #navit: < xenos1984> at least the last entry should correspond to the destination you set
17:46 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, there it is - it's not the last one
17:46 #navit: < xenos1984> navit:coord_parse:enter('geo: 48.0 -122.0',1,0x7fff641b6e20)
17:47 #navit: < xenos1984> looks like the interpretation is correct
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18:01 #navit: < Usul1> good evening xenos1984 :)
18:01 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 ;)
18:02 #navit: < Usul1> one question, we doesn't seem to have a /port/tomtom component in trac
18:02 #navit: < Usul1> do you have the privileges to create one?
18:02 #navit: < technomancy> so in the first stack trace it was failing trying to save the destination to bookmarks
18:04 #navit: < Usul1> hi technomancy
18:04 #navit: < Usul1> some trouble?
18:05 #navit: < technomancy> Usul1: yeah, crashing when trying to set the destination over dbus
18:05 #navit: < technomancy> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1132
18:06 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: indeed that's missing - but i don't think i have any privileges there (so i should get them ;))
18:06 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: yes, it seems that this was a bug in your older version
18:06 #navit: < xenos1984> but now it seems to be fixed
18:07 #navit: < technomancy> xenos1984: I'm still getting it on the version I built from trunk
18:08 #navit: < technomancy> I could have messed up the build though
18:08 #navit: < Usul1> you tried to restart with the deployed navit.xml?
18:08 #navit: < technomancy> I configured with "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/opt ."
18:08 #navit: < Usul1> xenos1984:  Do you know if KaZeR_W has admin rights?
18:09 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: i guess he has them
18:09 #navit: < KaZeR_W> Usul1: i do, i believe, but there's been a while since i last used it :)
18:09 #navit: < KaZeR_W> hello folks
18:09 #navit: < Usul1> hello master of trac ;)
18:09 #navit: < technomancy> do I have to do anything else special to install into ~/opt? it could be falling back to the old version I have installed somehow.
18:10 #navit: < KaZeR_W> ahah :)
18:10 #navit: < Usul1> do you feel fit to do a migration to trac 1.0 ?
18:10 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: hm... in which situations do you get the bookmarks one, and in which situations the other one? can you isolate the two different problems? (at least they look different)
18:11 #navit: < technomancy> xenos1984: I haven't hit the bookmarks bug since I started using this fresh map
18:11 #navit: < KaZeR_W> Usul1: looks like a good idea to me
18:11 #navit: < Usul1> I have a list of neat hacks, but would try it on my private trac instance before asking somebody to spend time on that
18:12 #navit: < Usul1> FYI I'm now proud owner of a N900 :)
18:12 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: hm... interesting... i would have expected the coord problem to vanish on a new map...
18:12 #navit: < xenos1984> congrats, Usul1 ;)
18:13 #navit: < Usul1> quiet nice this maemo thing, I always expected it to be more "rough" and slightly unusable
18:13 #navit: < KaZeR_W> Usul1: i have very few time right now, but feel free (read : please do) bug me to remind me
18:13 #navit: < Usul1> np, do you have server access already?
18:14 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: oh, i just checked, my nexus 7 has reached estonia today :) so maybe i'll get it on friday ;)
18:14 #navit: < Usul1> congrats! Arrived in the last minutes ;)
18:15 #navit: < KaZeR_W> Usul1: i should yes, but i haven't logged in for a long time :_
18:15 #navit: < KaZeR_W> :)
18:15 #navit: < xenos1984> well, i still need to get the software running, but let's see ;)
18:15 #navit: < Usul1> will work :D
18:15 #navit: < technomancy> so if I install navit in ~/opt, will running ~/opt/bin/navit be isolated from the system-level install from apt-get?
18:15 #navit: < Usul1> @ KaZeR_W it's not that important to do the mirgration now
18:16 #navit: < KaZeR_W> Usul1: sure, but be warned that i have a shitty memory :)
18:16 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: hm... what does your library search path look like?
18:16 #navit: < Usul1> But IMHO it would be cool, if we can update within some weeks, so still can have a benefit before we create a new release
18:17 #navit: < technomancy> xenos1984: I don't have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set; is there something else I should check?
18:17 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: maybe navit is pulling in some libs from somewhere else... i would start navit from within its build directory, then it should use the freshly built libraries
18:17 #navit: < xenos1984> or maybe just throw out the outdated navit completely
18:18 #navit: < Usul1> KaZeR_W: What is the best way for contacting you? IRC? Forums? Wiki diss?
18:18 #navit: < technomancy> yeah, I still get the crash running from the build dir
18:18 #navit: < KaZeR_W> Usul1: irc is fine for me
18:19 #navit: < Usul1> kk
18:19 #navit: < Usul1> oh btw, can you grant me higher rights on trac?
18:19 #navit: < xenos1984> technomancy: the bookmark one? could you provide another stacktrace for that one? i'd like to see which libs are loaded
18:20 #navit: < technomancy> actually this is a different crash
18:20 #navit: < technomancy> it's locked up so hard I can't ctrl-
18:20 #navit: < technomancy> ctrl-c out of it
18:21 #navit: < technomancy> lemme remove the apt version
18:22 #navit: < xenos1984> three different crashes - that's a crash hattrick...
18:23 #navit: < technomancy> just got another crash setting the destination in the gui =\
18:24 #navit: < xenos1984> looks like something is seriously broken... so you have latest svn version? which number is that?
18:24 #navit: < technomancy> ok, back to the regular "assertion failed:r2->lu.y >= r2->rl.y" crash when setting the dest over dbus
18:24 #navit: < technomancy> this is svn 5539
18:25 #navit: < Usul1> ok friends, will go early to bed today
18:25 #navit: < Usul1> cya :)
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18:27 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... strange
18:50 #navit: < xenos1984> i'm just compiling navit with dbus enabled
18:51 #navit: < xenos1984> maybe i can reproduce this bug...
18:53 #navit: < xenos1984> but i guess i first need to figure out how dbus works...
18:55 #navit: < technomancy> if there's another way to set the destination that'd be cool too
18:55 #navit: < technomancy> I'm just trying to build a headless navigation system
18:55 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i see - well, then dbus should be the way to go
18:56 #navit: < technomancy> dbus is kind of nuts, but I guess if you're doing RPC against a C++ program your options are pretty limited =\
18:57 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's true
18:58 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... cannot even get it to do anything... at least not quickly...
18:58 #navit: < technomancy> a rest endpoint would be sweet =)
19:01 #navit: < xenos1984> well, you could add a feature request to the trac system ;)
19:01 #navit: < technomancy> I'd be tempted to code it up myself if it weren't C++
19:01 #navit: < xenos1984> well, navit is C, not C++
19:02 #navit: < technomancy> oh, well that's encouraging to hear at least
19:02 #navit: < technomancy> =)
19:02 #navit: < technomancy> not sure where I got that mistaken impression
19:02 #navit: < technomancy> still, not a good match for my skills
19:02 #navit: < xenos1984> maybe because many functions take a first argument named "this" ;)
19:03 #navit: < technomancy> hope I haven't offended anyone by implying they're C++ users
19:04 #navit: < xenos1984> i wouldn't see it as an offense ;)
19:04 #navit: < technomancy> it happened to me once and it was somewhat upsetting
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20:44 #navit: < technomancy> so I'm using navit from debian wheezy again on my raspberry pi and I can't repro the crash
20:45 #navit: < technomancy> though dbus never gets a reply
20:46 #navit: < technomancy> so it's possible the message never reaches navit
20:46 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... and you don't get an error message, i guess?
20:46 #navit: < technomancy> just "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply." on the sending side
20:46 #navit: < technomancy> so yeah, probably dbus isn't set up right here
20:47 #navit: < xenos1984> quite possible
20:48 #navit: < technomancy> yeah, I added parse_coords debugging and it isn't showing anything, so must be a debug thing
20:53 #navit: <@cp15> technomancy, how does your call look like?
20:54 #navit: < technomancy> cp15: just the set_destination call from the wiki: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Dbus
20:55 #navit: <@cp15> And navit crashes if you use it?
20:56 #navit: < technomancy> navit:coord_rect_overlap:/home/phil/src/navit/navit/coord.c:106 assertion failed:r2->lu.y >= r2->rl.y
20:56 #navit: < technomancy> cp15: right ^
20:57 #navit: <@cp15> Hmm... What version are you using? Self compiled or from a distribution?
20:57 #navit: < technomancy> cp15: I've tried both
20:57 #navit: < technomancy> on debian wheezy FWIW
20:57 #navit: <@cp15> Usually this message means that your coordinates are "of the globe"
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20:57 #navit: < technomancy> cp15: off the globe or off the mapset I've provided?
20:58 #navit: <@cp15> Off the globe... The mapset doesn't matter
20:58 #navit: < technomancy> cp15: ok, hm. the string I'm using is "geo: 47.9 -122.0" which seems legit
20:58 #navit: < technomancy> according to the debug logs I pasted, xenos1984 said they're correct
20:58 #navit: < technomancy> http://p.hagelb.org/navit-coord-parse.html
20:59 #navit: < xenos1984> well, might also be that they should be swapped
20:59 #navit: <@cp15> Yep, navit uses x first, then y
20:59 #navit: < xenos1984> i only saw that they are parsed correctly and entered into some variables
20:59 #navit: <@cp15> y -122 is below south pole
21:00 #navit: < technomancy> oh geez
21:00 #navit: < technomancy> that's it!
21:00 #navit: < technomancy> thanks a bunch
21:00 #navit: < xenos1984> that explains why i couldn't reproduce the problem in estonia ;) here it doesn't matter...
21:00 #navit: <@cp15> I hope it works now :-)
21:00 #navit: < technomancy> still would be great if it didn't die a flaming death, but this is progress =)
21:01 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, some sanity check and warning message would be nice ;)
21:01 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, true... :-)
21:01 #navit: <@cp15> Well, there is a sanity check: The assert... Ok, it isn't a friendly one
21:03 #navit: < technomancy> I don't think I've seen a system that puts longitude before latitude before
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