--- Log opened Thu Jul 18 00:00:00 2013 01:22 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5549.failed 02:14 -!- cp15` [nyngls@p57B1D70D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 02:14 -!- cp15 [vwnueu@p57B1D830.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:14 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 02:14 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 02:24 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:35 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 03:35 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 05:38 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:43 -!- buttermelted [~buttermel@xdsl-87-78-174-200.netcologne.de] has joined #navit 05:44 #navit: < buttermelted> hi 05:44 #navit: < buttermelted> i want to use navit on my laptop 05:44 #navit: < buttermelted> help appreciated 05:46 #navit: < buttermelted> are there any other similar navigation programs? 07:07 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has joined #navit 08:03 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 12:46 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 15:19 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has quit [Quit: Tauso] 15:19 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.130] has joined #navit 15:19 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 15:30 -!- smt [~smt@188-195-106-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #navit 15:55 #navit: < buttermelted> hi 15:55 #navit: < buttermelted> someone here? jemand da? 15:55 #navit: < buttermelted> smt: KaZeR ??? 15:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi buttermelted 15:56 #navit: < buttermelted> hi 15:56 #navit: < buttermelted> mmh i want to use navit, but i am overwhelmed with configuration 15:56 #navit: < buttermelted> on a laptop 15:57 #navit: < buttermelted> i dont really understand why navit behaves that way it does on my computer 15:58 #navit: < buttermelted> if i change the options in the gui, they are set back when i restart navit 15:58 #navit: < buttermelted> for example 15:58 #navit: < buttermelted> or it seems that navit doesnt use my gps device although xgps is working fine 16:01 #navit: < buttermelted> KaZeR: do you use navit on a laptop? 16:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> what kind of settings are you talking about? 16:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> being on a laptop or a mobile device shouldn't make much difference 16:11 -!- butterme1ted [~buttermel@xdsl-87-78-28-137.netcologne.de] has joined #navit 16:14 -!- buttermelted [~buttermel@xdsl-87-78-174-200.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:19 -!- smt [~smt@188-195-106-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:25 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: oh sry 16:25 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: are you still there? 16:26 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: well if i select navigation, follow vehicle etc. the setting is gone next time when i start 16:27 #navit: < butterme1ted> additionally navit doesnt pick up my /dev/gps0 16:28 #navit: < butterme1ted> 16:28 #navit: < butterme1ted> thats my vehicle line 16:28 #navit: < butterme1ted> my device is called /dev/gps0 16:39 #navit: < butterme1ted> i basicly just copied the default config and inserted my map 16:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> navit doesnt pick up my /dev/gps0 _> do you have gpsd running? 16:53 #navit: < butterme1ted> yep 16:53 #navit: < butterme1ted> xgps works fine 16:55 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@pD953F545.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 16:55 #navit: < butterme1ted> navit:plugin_load:can't load '/usr/lib/navit/vehicle/libvehicle_gpsd.so', Error '/usr/lib/navit/vehicle/libvehicle_gpsd.so: undefined symbol: gps_set_raw_hook' 16:55 #navit: < butterme1ted> navit:vehicle_new:invalid type 'gpsd' 17:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> ah. looks like you don't have the right version of gpsd for navit. which distro is that? where did you get your packages from? 17:04 #navit: < butterme1ted> archlinux 17:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. try running lddd 17:06 #navit: < butterme1ted> http://nopaste.info/61984c56c4.html 17:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> butterme1ted: i was really talking about lddd :) 17:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta 17:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> the equivalent for revdep-rebuild 17:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> you have a broken dependency here it seems 17:13 #navit: < butterme1ted> mmh i dont have lddd and cant install it 17:13 #navit: < butterme1ted> where is it 17:15 #navit: < butterme1ted> :( 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> there's another tool listed on the page i gave you (findsomething) you might want to try this one instead 17:17 #navit: < butterme1ted> k thx 17:18 #navit: < butterme1ted> whoah 17:19 #navit: < butterme1ted> a never endinglist 17:20 #navit: < butterme1ted> avahi boost-libs claws-mail cmus colord flac gegl gimp imagemagick iproute2 jack libpeas libproxy libreoffice-common network-manager-applet p7zip postgresql python python-pyqt4 python2 python2-pyqt4 qt4 qt5-base smpeg speech-dispatcher subversion vlc 17:20 #navit: < butterme1ted> no gpsd or navit 17:24 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: is there another working navigation software? 17:24 #navit: < butterme1ted> gpsdrive seems to be pretty much dead 17:26 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:26 #navit: < butterme1ted> navit seemst to be the only game in town 17:28 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: i try another build 17:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> navit is the best :_ 17:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> :) 17:29 #navit: < butterme1ted> :( 17:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> butterme1ted: your issue isn't related to navit : you have broken dependencies in your system. rebuilding navit *might* work, but you might have issues with other packages 17:43 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: the new build works fine 17:47 #navit: < butterme1ted> everything out of the box 17:47 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: but i can change the mapstyl to T@h 17:47 #navit: < butterme1ted> what is it? 17:47 #navit: < butterme1ted> tourist? 17:48 #navit: < butterme1ted> there are many small circles 17:51 #navit: < butterme1ted> i like it, its freakin fast 17:51 #navit: < butterme1ted> but i'd like to be able to search for a library or something like this 17:55 #navit: < butterme1ted> KaZeR: any recommendations for settings or something else? 17:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> T@h = tiles at home, a rendering from OSM 17:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> butterme1ted: for settings, it really depends upon what you expect, that's the strength of navit, it's highly customisable :) 17:57 #navit: < butterme1ted> i really would like to have a bicycle navigator with topography, but i guess navit doesnt really support it 17:58 #navit: < curious> butterme1ted, not on routing level 17:59 #navit: < butterme1ted> yeah i know :( 17:59 #navit: < curious> you can display cyclemaps which have some colouring but that's all 17:59 #navit: < butterme1ted> ya 17:59 #navit: < butterme1ted> something like komoot.de 17:59 #navit: < butterme1ted> would be nice 17:59 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@pD953F545.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:59 #navit: < curious> ye , i would like same thing, i found nothing usefull though 18:00 #navit: < butterme1ted> i mean komoot does use osm 18:00 #navit: < curious> actually topo for car routing would be good aswell if someone cares about gas 18:00 #navit: < butterme1ted> curious: haha yeah 18:00 #navit: < curious> i once had idea for hack for navit which would tediously convert all ways basing on height data into pairs of oneways 18:00 #navit: < butterme1ted> i wonder how much energy one can safe by optimizing routing that way 18:01 #navit: < curious> so uphill and downhill via same path would be two oneways, but with different speed limits/tags 18:01 #navit: < curious> but it's really dirty hack and i'm too lazy/dumb to implement it 18:01 #navit: < butterme1ted> well that would be dirty :D 18:01 #navit: < butterme1ted> haha 18:02 #navit: < curious> well, by rinding bike you can save lot of power , and cyclist is just like 100kg and 100W power ... car is like 1000kg and 100 000W :D 18:03 #navit: < butterme1ted> how do i start navit&gpsd most comfortably? 18:03 #navit: < butterme1ted> nope 18:03 #navit: < butterme1ted> :D 18:03 #navit: < butterme1ted> with sudo? 18:03 #navit: < curious> i usually have gpsd started by init script in a loop 18:04 #navit: < butterme1ted> curious: na i dont need it. its my workstation 18:04 #navit: < curious> so it's sth like until gpsd ; do gpsd ; sleep 60 ; done 18:05 #navit: < curious> and this in another while looop just in case ;) 18:05 #navit: < curious> and then just killing gpsd from user if it hangs 18:05 #navit: < butterme1ted> well i do want to save power... 18:06 #navit: < curious> if nothing pulls from gpsd it doesn't pull from gps either 18:06 #navit: < curious> so there's no big deal 18:06 #navit: < curious> it's pretty good written piece of code 18:06 #navit: < butterme1ted> mmh i have to run mbm-gpsd anyway 18:08 #navit: < curious> btw. not sure if gpsd can't be also run from user 18:08 #navit: < curious> as long as u have permission to pull from rfcomm/whatever 18:08 #navit: < butterme1ted> oh it does work 18:08 #navit: < butterme1ted> thx 18:09 #navit: < curious> yeah, it's even paranoid enough to drop root by itself :) 18:10 #navit: < butterme1ted> ah no, it doesnt work 18:10 #navit: < butterme1ted> i can start gpsd but it wont work without root 18:13 #navit: < butterme1ted> is there a way to use a-gps? 18:17 #navit: < butterme1ted> do you have some styles that look more professional? 18:30 #navit: < butterme1ted> which settings do you use on laptop? 18:30 #navit: < butterme1ted> curious: how did you configure navit? 18:37 -!- KaZeR_ [~KaZeR@64.201.252.130] has joined #navit 18:38 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:42 #navit: < butterme1ted> oh gosh, broken configs everywhere 18:48 #navit: < curious> butterme1ted, i use old wince build and took lot of time to make custom xml 18:49 #navit: < curious> but it's old 18:49 #navit: < butterme1ted> kk 18:50 #navit: < butterme1ted> there is so much work involved with those stupid xml files 18:50 #navit: < butterme1ted> oh my gosh 18:55 #navit: < butterme1ted> THIS IS MADNESS :D 19:03 #navit: < pini> Hi 19:03 #navit: < pini> Still can't log into Trac. Is it only me? 19:08 #navit: < butterme1ted> what pity, that there are so many navigation apps for android but just barely working software for linux 20:50 -!- drlizau [~liz@203.193.196.35] has joined #navit 21:24 -!- drlizau [~liz@203.193.196.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 22:08 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 22:09 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 22:18 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B48954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 22:45 -!- ham73tux [~Bernhard@12.152.180.250] has joined #navit 23:06 -!- ham73tux [~Bernhard@12.152.180.250] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@ip-2-206-0-96.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit --- Log closed Fri Jul 19 00:00:00 2013