--- Log opened Sat Jul 20 00:00:00 2013 00:37 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@ip-2-206-0-107.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:16 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5549.failed 01:52 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@ip-2-206-0-107.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 02:12 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@ip-2-206-0-107.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:13 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@ip-2-206-0-107.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 02:13 -!- cp15` [icrisr@p57B1FE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 02:13 -!- cp15 [gkzcip@p57B1D616.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:13 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 02:13 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 02:18 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@ip-2-206-0-107.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:09 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 04:15 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 07:37 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:09 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:20 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:34 -!- cp15` [vdjwci@p57B1FE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:34 -!- cp15 [icrisr@p57B1FE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:34 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 08:34 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 08:34 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:35 -!- pini` [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 08:41 -!- grongi [~gringo@unaffiliated/gringo] has joined #navit 08:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: gringo, pini 08:45 -!- grongi is now known as gringo 08:47 -!- Netsplit over, joins: pini 08:54 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: pini` 09:06 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: fOB, fest, hape_, @cp15, latouche_ 09:07 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @cp15, latouche_, hape_, fest, fOB 09:08 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: fOB, fest 09:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fOB, fest 09:19 -!- cp15` [dhunvu@p57B1FE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 09:19 -!- cp15 [vdjwci@p57B1FE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:19 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 09:19 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 10:58 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@pD953FDAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 11:32 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@97-177-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #navit 11:33 #navit: < tryagain> Hi kamikaaze! 11:33 #navit: < kamikaaze> Hi 11:37 #navit: < kamikaaze> The Norway relation seems to be a little strange. It contains 2 sub-Relations (Norway-Continental and Svalbard) but the Islands of Svalbard seem to be included in both Relations. 11:38 #navit: < tryagain> Yes, i figured that out too 11:38 #navit: < kamikaaze> My opinion would be to move all entries of the Norway-Continental Relation up to the Super Relation and to delete the Svalbard relation completely 11:38 #navit: < kamikaaze> if really all islands are included 11:39 #navit: < kamikaaze> I wrote to the Author and he told me he did it after the way France was created, but that does not match, since France contains all Islands as "outer" members in it's main Relation 11:41 #navit: < tryagain> He has only 5 osm edits... All pretending to change world... 11:41 #navit: < kamikaaze> Yup 11:42 #navit: < tryagain> I think we should roll it back. 11:42 #navit: < kamikaaze> But i don't have much more either and i do not want to touch this Huge and important relation 11:42 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 11:43 #navit: < tryagain> Well, then we could ask usul1 to do it for us 11:43 #navit: < tryagain> I'm on mobile till august and dont have a tool besides Vespucci 11:45 #navit: < kamikaaze> right 11:45 #navit: < tryagain> Alternatively, we could ask for help on #osm 11:46 #navit: < tryagain> As usul seems to ignore this channel 11:46 #navit: < kamikaaze> I think we should ask on #osm first to get their opinion on this before just reverting this 11:57 #navit: < tryagain> Not very much of interest there... 12:00 #navit: < kamikaaze> No not really. But let's wait a little. If they do not respond i will ask on #osm-de or on the German Forum, it's pretty active 12:04 #navit: < tryagain> I think we could also move to Norway forum 12:04 #navit: < tryagain> *or irc 12:05 #navit: < kamikaaze> Norway Forum has only like 1 Post :-) 12:05 #navit: < tryagain> Nice ) 12:11 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:14 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 12:41 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 12:50 #navit: < tryagain> Hi xenos1984 12:51 #navit: < xenos1984> hi tryagain 12:51 #navit: < tryagain> Hows your journey? 12:52 #navit: < xenos1984> it was quite interesting, successful and exhausting ;) 12:52 #navit: < tryagain> Great 12:53 #navit: < tryagain> So youre at home location now? 12:53 #navit: < xenos1984> i even managed to make use of my sparse knowledge of russian language... 12:53 #navit: < xenos1984> yes 12:53 #navit: < tryagain> Wow russian in poland? 12:54 #navit: < tryagain> Though languages are quite similar.. 12:55 #navit: < tryagain> Do you have a josm handy to fix a country boundary? 12:55 #navit: < xenos1984> no, actually in lithuania ;) in the roadside cafes it was easier to get along with russian than with english, and in vilnius i managed to buy some stamps 12:55 #navit: < xenos1984> sure 12:58 #navit: < xenos1984> which country is it this time? ;) 12:58 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:58 #navit: < tryagain> Well, in ex-ussr you can be understood in russian. And if you clearly not native russian, your chances might be better... 12:58 #navit: < tryagain> Norway 12:59 #navit: < tryagain> Please look channel logs from yesterday 12:59 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's true - also here in estonia there are some places where you get along better with russian (sometimes even better than with estonian) 12:59 #navit: < xenos1984> ok, i'll have a look 13:03 #navit: < tryagain> Thank you 13:11 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 13:18 #navit: < xenos1984> this is strange - apparently http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1059668 does contain the svalbard islands, even though the description says differently 13:19 #navit: < kamikaaze> Hi xenos 13:19 #navit: < xenos1984> so i have no idea why someone created a new (meta-)relation for "all of norway" 13:19 #navit: < tryagain> Yes 13:20 #navit: < xenos1984> hi kamikaaze 13:20 #navit: < kamikaaze> That's true the author of the changeset told me this was not intended and he had no idea how this happened 13:21 #navit: < xenos1984> i see - so i will remove the islands from that relation, and put all borders into the new relation? 13:21 #navit: < kamikaaze> So our idea was to move all entries in this relation to the main Norway Relation and remove the Svalbard Relation 13:21 #navit: < xenos1984> sounds reasonable to me 13:22 #navit: < kamikaaze> But the Svalbard relation may not be deleted, since it is still in this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/940073 13:23 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, i think i will just keep that relation 13:23 #navit: < tryagain> Just revert old whole country relation to its previous state, and drop iso code from the newer 13:24 #navit: < kamikaaze> great thank you :-) 13:24 #navit: < tryagain> And dont forget to clean that note 13:24 #navit: < xenos1984> that's also possible - but also the german border is split that way into islands and continental part 13:24 #navit: < xenos1984> so i think this split is reasonable 13:25 #navit: < xenos1984> but of course in a "working" way 13:25 #navit: < xenos1984> no nested relations 13:27 #navit: < tryagain> Afair for germany theres a separate nested superrelation which is not recognized by navit 13:28 #navit: < kamikaaze> In its main Relation there are no nested relations 13:28 #navit: < kamikaaze> only ways 13:28 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's also what i remember 13:30 #navit: < kamikaaze> each "Bundesland" has it's own relation but no super relation for example http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/940073 13:31 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:32 #navit: < xenos1984> should be fixed now - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2978650 & http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1059668 13:33 #navit: < xenos1984> i just thought "strange, the relation does explicitly say that it has no iso code, it is set to 'no'" - but of course "no" IS the iso code of norway... 13:34 #navit: < kamikaaze> well i thought it stands for no (false), too :-) 13:37 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 13:39 #navit: < tryagain> Looks fine for me. Thank you. 13:41 #navit: < tryagain> I'm unsure if its a good ifea to keep admin_level=2 without iso code on the old relation 13:41 #navit: < tryagain> *idea 13:42 #navit: < tryagain> At least, maptool will complain in the logs on it. 13:52 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... yes, that's possible 13:52 #navit: < xenos1984> maybe we can try it once like this and if there are problems, i will change it 14:15 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:15 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@97-177-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:41 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 15:04 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@pD953FDAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:23 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:01 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 16:50 -!- ZeroOne01 [~smuxi@046074095091.atmpu0003.highway.a1.net] has joined #navit 16:51 -!- ZeroOne01 [~smuxi@046074095091.atmpu0003.highway.a1.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:02 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 17:27 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 17:38 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 18:48 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 18:53 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:41 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@102-167-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #navit 19:41 #navit: < tryagain> We have a spam ticket on trac 20:30 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 20:31 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 21:10 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@102-167-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:13 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 21:31 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 22:37 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B4B789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 22:47 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 -!- kamikaaze [~Kami@pD953FDAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit --- Log closed Sun Jul 21 00:00:00 2013