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01:29 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5738.failed
01:29 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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09:25 #navit: < girof> hello, do you know if there is the town search function is broken with actual maps (France S.W.). My version is navit android 0.5.0-5720 dl from f-droid.org repository). It was OK with an old map (2 months I think)
09:26 #navit: < girof> the map was downloaded from navit itself, from android device
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10:00 #navit: < girof> installing the latest navit-svn-5738.apk does not solve the problem
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13:14 #navit: < girof> I tried with France map complete : same think, just a few towns are found by the address search. Help ?
14:20 #navit: < xenos1984> girof: this could be related to a problem with the french administrative border relation in the OSM data
14:21 #navit: < xenos1984> there is no agreement whether and how to include oversea territories such as new caledonia into the french administrative area
14:27 #navit: < girof> xenos1984: strange that navit search can find a few towns nevertheless
14:28 #navit: < girof> do you know if old maps are available somewhere ? 2 or 3 months ago maps where fine
14:28 #navit: < xenos1984> girof: which towns did navit find? it could be that they are found via is_in tagging in osm
14:29 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... no, i don't know of old maps
14:29 #navit: < xenos1984> ultimately this should be fixed in the osm data
14:32 #navit: < girof> for example navit is able to find Toulouse, Caen, Plouarzel, but not Agen, Auch, Albi..
14:32 #navit: < girof> should I report the problem to OSM guys ?
14:35 #navit: < xenos1984> i have already posted this problem in the OSM forum and on irc, but no reaction: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=22044
14:36 #navit: < xenos1984> it would be good to have some opinion or comments on this to find a suitable solution
14:36 #navit: < xenos1984> a partial solution i have already suggested
14:45 #navit: < girof> too few people using navit/OSM in the countries you discovered as buggy maybe
14:47 #navit: < xenos1984> possible, but also in the OSM community in general there seems to be nobody responding, not only from navit users
14:47 #navit: < girof> strange for such a project
14:49 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, indeed
14:50 #navit: < girof> just found this in the navit FAQ : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap#Search_doesn.27t_work
14:52 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, these multipolygons / boundaries are exactly the problem in the case of france
14:53 #navit: < girof> I don't know anything about OSM data unfortunatly
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14:55 #navit: < girof> (anyway navit is great, many thanks to you all !)
14:56 #navit: < xenos1984> nice to hear that ;)
14:59 #navit: < girof> really great.  :)
15:07 #navit: < girof> could an OSM illiterate tweak an extract a small region data, tweak it, maptool it and generate a working map.bin ? too difficult ?
15:08 #navit:  * girof = the illiterate ...
15:09 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... good question, depends on how you wish to tweak it
15:09 #navit: < xenos1984> everything else is simple
15:23 #navit: < girof> no idea
15:25 #navit: < xenos1984> well, what should be result of this tweaking? get address search to work?
15:27 #navit: < girof> yes
15:28 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... this is not so easy, because you would need the whole border of france and repair these boundaries... and i have no idea how to tag them correctly
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15:29 #navit: < girof> ok, so no means to "repair" a small area, even if far from boundaries
15:29 #navit: < xenos1984> right
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17:17 #navit: < girof> I'll try to process an OSM data set with an old maptool (pre- Apr. 2013)
17:56 #navit: < xenos1984> ok, good ;)
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20:37 #navit: < girof> strange : upon daily map from navit-project.org, more research succeed than yesterday
20:59 #navit: < girof> mmhh not very. navit/OSM is broken.
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