--- Log opened Sat Aug 02 00:00:41 2014 00:27 -!- bafplus [c1acd6fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.172.214.254] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:17 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:58 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 05:03 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 06:44 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 06:58 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 07:46 -!- Mineque_ [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 07:46 -!- Mineque_ is now known as Guest34824 07:50 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:50 -!- Guest34824 [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:20 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.45] has joined #navit 09:12 #navit: < tryagain> Navit, jump 09:12 #navit: < Navit> How high? 09:12 #navit: < tryagain> hm 09:13 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 09:14 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has joined #navit 10:02 #navit: < tryagain> i0x71 can you give an example area where the search crashes for you? 10:42 -!- bafplus [5ed0a3ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.208.163.238] has joined #navit 12:34 #navit: < bafplus> Anyone willing to answer some questions about Navit on Windows 7? 12:37 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus you'll need some command line program able to play wav files. Do you have one? Or another question? 12:40 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44 #navit: < tryagain> will be afk for a while. please feel free to ask your questions... 12:57 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:08 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 13:38 #navit: < bafplus> Thanks, What is the deal with the Navit.log logfile, after 3 days of use its already about 7 GB!!! can we disable logging somewere? 14:09 #navit: < tryagain> to disable the logging completely, it's advised to delete and create a folder with name navit.log 14:11 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus though 7gb after 3 days is way too much... Didnt you enable some debugging besides default config? 14:13 #navit: < bafplus> i onlu DISABLES debugging in the xml 14:15 #navit: < bafplus> End because i'm testing some POI files with very large number of lines it makes a very large logfile because of the errorlines. 14:16 #navit: < bafplus> IS there a way to flush it bij max-filesize/lifespan? 14:19 #navit: < bafplus> But however, that isnt my biggest consern. What loads faster: Pois "embedded" within the mapfile or using a CSV file with pois? 14:19 #navit: < bafplus> I have around 1,5 milj. points.... 14:22 #navit: < bafplus> Second thing is the speech. I don't want to use a synth voice but wav files. Where to find those wav-sets and how to make them work? (note that i don't have skills to build or (re)compile, i'm no c+ coder ;-) 14:24 #navit: < bafplus> Third thing: is thare a way to "send" a string to Navit? Say i have another program with adresses in them. Is there a way to send a string with country+town+street+huisenumber into navit? 14:25 #navit: < bafplus> Goal is to make a butten within my own program. When pressed the button it would start navit and instantly starts navigating to the adress suplied from the string. 14:32 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus to send navit a command you can use the shipped tell_navit.exe program. But there's currently no command to find a place by string. Note, you may have more than one result for a given query. What if your button will send you to a wrong direction? 14:34 #navit: < bafplus> Tell_navit.exe is NOT shipped with the downloaded SVN or windows installer... 14:34 #navit: < tryagain> As for POIs, I guess both ways should be almost equal, csv might even have some speed benefit, as they would be stored in the memory. 14:34 #navit: < tryagain> where you got your zip file? 14:35 #navit: < tryagain> win32_cmake build should have the file 14:35 #navit: < bafplus> http://download.navit-project.org/navit/win32/svn/ 14:35 #navit: < tryagain> yeah, please replace win32 with win32_cmake 14:37 #navit: < tryagain> and we have no ready wave sets. Only possibility to use one if you record it. 14:38 #navit: < bafplus> I got it from the download link on navit-project.org: http://www.navit-project.org/?page=download 14:39 #navit: < tryagain> ah, thank you. i will update that link. 14:42 #navit: < bafplus> Can you please also activate my registration to the forum? ;-) i'm still pending.... 14:42 #navit: < bafplus> That explains why i miss the share folder ;-) 14:44 #navit: < bafplus> What is the best way to make custom changes thet don't get changed when updated Navit? Share folder? "custom" folder? 14:44 #navit: < tryagain> ups sorry, i have no wiki admin rights... 14:44 #navit: < bafplus> Could you bump someone who has? 14:44 #navit: < tryagain> will try to.. 14:45 #navit: < bafplus> Anyhow...i make a lot of changes in the xml file and some image files, what is the "safest" way to work with costumazations? 14:46 #navit: < tryagain> well i'm unsure where these custom folders reside. You may though start navit with custom navit.xml as parameter placed anywhere you want. 14:47 #navit: < bafplus> btw..i'm asuming the programm is "portabel"? Everything is within the Navit folder? So if i copy it to say a memorystick it should work on other machines without installing? 14:48 #navit: < bafplus> So when there is an update that also involves the navit.xml i'm sort of screwed?.... 14:48 #navit: < tryagain> yes. 14:48 #navit: < tryagain> and yes 14:49 #navit: < bafplus> Ok...hope there ar not many changes in the xml from the other svn u used ;-) 14:49 #navit: < tryagain> You may use xi:include feature to pull parts of original navit.xml file into your own one. 14:50 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052197218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 14:51 #navit: < bafplus> if it adds something that should work, like adding pois etc, but when you do changes in the code i figure you cant pull that from another file... 14:51 #navit: < bafplus> No problem but i have to redesign my costumizations ;-) 14:54 #navit: < tryagain> if your customizations are only some osd and map rendering layout(s) you may choose to keep them in a separate files and xi:include them into the file based on our shipped config. So if that file changed, you'll have to find right places for your xi:include's 14:59 #navit: < bafplus> and what about settings...the are overwriten when updated Navit. Those are lost i guess? I read somehwere that there is a plan to cut the xml in parts for easy costimization, any roadmap for that? 15:00 #navit: < bafplus> Next question ;-) 15:00 #navit: < bafplus> I've noticed that my gps is off by about 20-30 meters when navigating. Is there some offset setting to change that? 15:04 #navit: < tryagain> no such config... may be just week signal? 15:07 #navit: < bafplus> Its only when navigating, so maybe thats the case indeed. I'm using a build in gps on my panasonic Toughbook CF-19, it works like a charm! 15:09 #navit: < bafplus> The map is refreshed and rendered every second while navigating, can this be set faster for more fluid movement? 15:09 #navit: < bafplus> (btw...sorry for the many questions....but many thanks for replying) 15:20 #navit: < bafplus> About the pois, is there a max layer level? I've added 3 cvs files (so also 3 maplayers) but 1 is not displaying.... 15:56 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 15:58 #navit: < Mineque> hello 15:58 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, cmake version is working 16:28 #navit: < bafplus> The poi realy slows down the rendering (due to the amount of pois), is there a way to make a togle osd button that enebles/disables the maplayer? if yes...any help coding this within the xml would be great. 16:29 #navit: < bafplus> It should be disabled by default and enebled when pressed. 16:32 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052197218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42 #navit: < Mineque> you can edit xml to choose which poi category display 16:46 #navit: < bafplus> Minique, i understand that, but i want to make a button in the OSD to activate that poi layer when pressed 16:54 #navit: < Mineque> i'm not sure if possible right now 16:54 #navit: < bafplus> Same way as you do in settings-->map where you can enable or disable a maplayer. I want a button on the screen that directly enables/disables that particular maplayer 16:54 #navit: < Mineque> ? 16:56 #navit: < bafplus> Now the maplayer is always enabled in the xml. If i dont want it to be displayed a have te go to settings-->map and disable the layer 16:57 #navit: < bafplus> The goal is to do teh same action but directly with one press of a button in the gui 17:00 #navit: < Mineque> wait 17:01 #navit: < Mineque> it is possible with command 17:01 #navit: < Mineque> should be* 17:01 #navit: < Mineque> searching 17:04 #navit: < Mineque> command="gui.setting_layout()" 17:04 #navit: < Mineque> but maybe with some parameter 17:04 #navit: < Mineque> no sure dont know code 17:05 #navit: < Mineque> you can use some of gui commands with gui. prefix 17:13 #navit: < bafplus> Thanks, i think you are thinking in the right direction, however...i also don't know code that much... :-( 17:14 #navit: < bafplus> Anyone willing to help me with this? 17:18 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus maybe create ticket at trac suggestion/new feature 17:19 #navit: < bafplus> I will do that, thanks 17:20 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:30 #navit: < bafplus> Minique, the links to you're OSD layouts is broken.... 17:33 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 18:20 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, where? 18:20 #navit: < Mineque> at wiki are very old 18:20 #navit: < Mineque> but i can send you 18:20 #navit: < Mineque> url? 18:21 #navit: < Mineque> which one 18:40 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus seems to be no way to reduce polling interval besides changing the code 18:43 #navit: < tryagain> 18:44 #navit: < tryagain> above is from my experiments, may be working or not, but should be a good point to start :) 18:48 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque, both autotools and cmake versions seem to be broken in the same way. Key difference is placement of navit.xml file. I've updated the ticket. 18:48 #navit: < bafplus> I found that code but there is one big difference: Its not a defined layer, its a map within the mapset 18:49 #navit: < tryagain> so you want to disable maps rather than layers? 18:50 #navit: < tryagain> It should be possible in the same way as i suggested. Another idea would be to place your pois in separate layer and switch them on/off 18:50 #navit: < Mineque> hmm 18:52 #navit: < Mineque> weird, i would bet i tried ./osd.xml on autotools 18:52 #navit: < tryagain> you may retry :) 18:53 #navit: < bafplus> How do i do that? I just followed this guide: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Custom_POIs#Load_POIs_via_CSV 18:53 #navit: < bafplus> as you can see the poi is a maplayer... 18:54 #navit: < Mineque> already tried 18:54 #navit: < Mineque> working for both 18:55 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, does r5028 solve no "/" issue also 18:56 #navit: < Mineque> or still there has to be slash in path 19:01 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque, 5028 works fine for me regardless of slash. But it's not yet passed nightly build. 19:01 #navit: < bafplus> tryagain, i tried using the layer "POI Symbols" and it works...almost...it does what it is supposed to do but it still "renders" the poi only doesent display them. What i want to do is disable the complete poi-set so navit doesent process them (speeding up de gui big-time) 19:03 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, ok 19:04 #navit: < tryagain> Switching on/off poi sympbols layer is what i was suggesting. Do you use csv or textfile map? textfile is much less efficient, it rereads whole file on each redraw. 19:06 #navit: < bafplus> its textfile, for csv i only have to change "textfile" to "cvs" right? 19:06 #navit: < tryagain> no, you'll have to change file format completely 19:06 #navit: < tryagain> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/CSV 19:08 #navit: < tryagain> and you may have only one item type in csv file 19:09 #navit: < tryagain> and no support for lines/areas in csv file, only points (but we were talking about POIs, eh?) 19:15 #navit: < bafplus> Ok..haven't seen that one yet! Cool! Garmin native GPX is already in that format! That saves me a lot of work. But what it doesent say is how you asign a icon to it.... 19:20 #navit: < tryagain> if you choose an unused type, you'll have to change poi symbols layer in navit.xml to include that type and use the choosen icon 19:22 #navit: < tryagain> another idea would be to use type like poi_custom1 and include icon_src field in your csv file, then go the same as with textfile map 19:24 #navit: < bafplus> It says: "This only works if you complie navit with the option --enable-map-csv . If you use navit from a deb package, it won't work!" , is this compiled in the latest svn? 19:24 #navit: < tryagain> let me see... 19:26 #navit: < tryagain> both win32 and win32_cmake should have it enabled... 19:26 #navit: < bafplus> hmm... is the "id" field manditory in the CSV? My csv files mis that column 19:32 #navit: < tryagain> mandatory ones are position_longitude and position_latitude 19:34 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...why o why isnt this working... ;-) 19:34 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, is wiki server overloaded? 19:35 #navit: < bafplus> Mineque, i've noticed that to, the last days it is very slow or even not available sometimes 19:41 #navit: < tryagain> yes, it seems to be overloaded 19:49 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus any diagnostics shown? Is map visible under settings/maps? Didn't you messed up longitude and latitude? 19:54 #navit: < bafplus> It is not visable under settings....When used as txt it worked si lon/lat should be ok... 19:58 #navit: < bafplus> tryagain: something wrong with my csv: navit:attr_data_size:size for item_type unknown map_csv:map_new_csv:ERROR: Non-matching attr count and column count: 4 3 SKIPPING line: 04.39186 map_csv:map_new_csv:ERROR: Non-matching attr count and column count: 4 3 SKIPPING line: 04.39312 map_csv:map_new_csv:ERROR: Non-matching attr count and column count: 4 3 SKIPPING line: 04.39477 20:04 #navit: < bafplus> GOT IT! i missed an attr, i specified 3 attr, but the csv has 4 collumns! 20:04 #navit: < bafplus> Now it works and WOW, What a difference in speed! 20:08 #navit: < bafplus> Ans even better news!!! It also works with native Garmin GPX! I just changed poi.csv to poi.gpx and it works!!! 20:09 #navit: < bafplus> Next step: Images! 20:10 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:25 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 20:27 #navit: < tryagain> images should work the same way as with textfile: add new column with file names, describe it in navit.xml 20:39 #navit: < bafplus> In my case i use the poi_custom and define the images directly in the navit.xml, this way i dont have to edit the gpx files for easy updating ;-) 20:43 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052197218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 20:43 #navit: < Navit> mdankov * r5829 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Fix:gui/internal:Properly handle backspace button on multibyte input, were leading to crashes on some android devices. http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5829/ 21:12 #navit: < tryagain> if you change to inside