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09:31 #navit: < woglinde> gm
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12:58 #navit: < Mineque> hi'
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13:38 #navit: < Mineque> where is wiki hosted?
13:38 #navit: < Mineque> how much resources it need to work "normal"
13:47 #navit: < jandegr> Hi, following bafplus I also took a look at the dutch translations
13:47 #navit: < jandegr> can someone explain to me what car_pedantic really means ?
13:47 #navit: < jandegr> is this a slow car ?
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16:11 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5830/ your POI types should have been placed right after found_item, not before it.
16:12 #navit: < tryagain> and do you plan to add some maptool code so these types get actually involved?
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16:18 #navit: < tryagain> afk
16:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
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16:21 #navit: < bafplus> Hy
16:23 #navit: < bafplus> Found a small bug (i think its a bug) with the tec_common icon. when displayed it is white where there should be transparancy, and where there's color, theres transparancy...
16:23 #navit: < bafplus> http://nl.tinypic.com/r/2pquukx/8
16:25 #navit: < bafplus> The image looks some kind of inverted with the transparancy and non-transparancy layer
16:25 #navit: < bafplus> I've checked the PNG, these are correct so i guess Navit does something...don't know what tho...
16:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: it might be related to http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1136
16:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> a quick workaround for this issue is to convert from aRGB to another format
16:33 #navit: < bafplus> I will try that, i havent noticed it as a "bug" but the cursorchadow in windows shows as a rectangle (see screenshots in the ticket), i can confirm that i have the same problem...any fix on that since it is not an image?
16:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm i wasn't aware of an issue with the cursor shadow. but i've never used the windows build :)
16:37 #navit: < bafplus> I wassent aware that is actualy is a bug untill i saw that ticket and the shadow should also be rectangle...
16:38 #navit: < bafplus> not that familiar with imagecolorsystem...do you mean i have to change it to pure rgb?
16:44 #navit: < bafplus> Hmmm...i don't think thats the problem, i have tried changing the used icon to any other icon, tried about 6, ALL have the same isue...so it looks to me ts a layer/render problem, not the actual image itself
16:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> if all your icons are aRGB that would make sense :o)
16:52 #navit: < bafplus> let mje try with some of my own custom images...but then again...its ONLY the tec_common "layer, but i will try
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> tthe tec_common layer? what do you mean?
16:56 #navit: < bafplus> It ONLY effects the icons used for tec_comon, all other "poi-layers" are displayed correctly...
16:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm
16:58 #navit: < bafplus> even with my own custom icons...
17:00 #navit: < bafplus> And even with JPG
17:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> so that's another issue
17:01 #navit: < bafplus> another from what?
17:01 #navit: < bafplus> the cursor? yes
17:02 #navit: < bafplus> can anyone else with windows confirm the error?
17:02 #navit: < bafplus> or even other oss to confirm if it works on other oss?
17:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> another from the png transparency issue
17:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you share your navit.xml and other relevant files? i will try
17:04 #navit: < bafplus> That they turn blue? yes, that seems a different isue, or maybe related somehow, don't know...
17:05 #navit: < bafplus> I can give you a snapshot i made yesterday (has same errors) and supply the coordinates for the screenshot-location i just showed
17:05 #navit: < bafplus> its 1.3 GB including mapdata
17:07 #navit: < bafplus> http://we.tl/QjJWv6uK5U
17:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok i will give it a try
17:10 #navit: < bafplus> the code used for tec_ (like displaying the warniong text and when to give the anounce alerts) is that in the xml or in sourcecode?
17:11 #navit: < bafplus> bookmark:
17:11 #navit: < bafplus> mg:0x8174f 0x667a2e type=bookmark label="tec_common error" path="tec_common error"
17:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> i will need your center.txt too
17:46 #navit: < bafplus> mg: 0x8127d 0x66ab26
17:47 #navit: < bafplus> btw..i have a lot of questions, "bugs" etc...whats the best way, make all seperate wiki tickets or one pastebin?
17:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> one ticket / issue is probably the best way. easier to follow up, and several people will probably help you too
18:12 #navit: < bafplus> sono problem if going to be around 15 tickets?
18:12 #navit: < bafplus> maybe more?
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18:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> please make sure that there is no related ticket before submitting a new one to reduce noise. but if there's no ticket related, then you're welcome to submit one
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18:36 #navit: < bafplus> Are the speecam names available in the language file (fix, traffic light etc.)? can't find them...if not, i open a ticket to ad them to languagefile...
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18:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. that might be a bit more difficult for these are they are actually attributes of items in the map, iirc
18:53 #navit: < bafplus> are you sure? i use the igo8 - csv method, in the csv the type is given using 1,2,3,4 etc. So the code is translating them from within the code...
18:56 #navit: < bafplus> CAM_FIXED = "1" , so flag "1" is translated to CAM_FIXED and in turn is translated to "FIX" , so in my non-programmer sence, it would be possible to use CAM_FIXED as a languagestring...
18:56 #navit: < bafplus> or am i thinking to "simple"?
18:58 #navit: < bafplus> source: at end of http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD#Camera_Types
19:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm not sure, i will check in the code :)
19:05 #navit: < bafplus> While you are there...is there a way to "hide" or "disable" the warningfunction/osd warning when driving AWAY from the speedcamera?
19:06 #navit: < bafplus> Now the warning is still active until 1000/1500 meter away from the speedcam, so you still see the warning about 2 km after you passed the speedcam
19:07 #navit: < bafplus> Also it would be nice if you can alter the warningdistances from the navit.xml (just for easy customization)
19:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> i've never used the speedcamera feature so please bear with me, but AFAIK, it currently uses only the distance between you and the camera, and not yet the fact that you are coming closer or getting further. this definitely needs enhancement but i think there is a ticket already for this
19:10 #navit: < bafplus> yes because i just added the ticket ;-)
19:12 #navit: < bafplus> in plain text it "sounds" easy: if distance is getting less=display, if distance is getting bigger (maybe with some headroom)=hide/disable
19:13 #navit: < bafplus> maybe thats the reason i am not a programmer...i think to easy ;-)
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19:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> it's a bit more comlicated than that, because you cannot use the bird eye distance : if there is a curve for example, the distance will temporarily increase :)
19:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/777#comment:13 : looks like one of the issues you reported, no ?
19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> afk, lunch
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19:27 #navit: < Mineque> hi
19:27 #navit: < Mineque> :)
19:33 #navit: < bafplus> KaZeR, no that is about an image in OSD not rendering correctly...
19:35 #navit: < bafplus> but i see that white background in osd also sometimes, mostly during routecalculations and such..
19:36 #navit: < bafplus> Hi Mineque
19:36 #navit: < bafplus> you use windows+navit right?
19:39 #navit: < Mineque> using means "testing osd"
19:39 #navit: < Mineque> but right, win7 64bit
19:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: nl translation updated ( amongst others ). you are now listed as a contributor :) this should be updated in tonight's build
19:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5831/#diff-23
19:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> afk
19:46 #navit: < bafplus> :-)
19:47 #navit: < bafplus> Mineque...i have a trafficcam "bug" , do you have the time to check if you also have that bug?
19:50 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, more info
19:50 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR, who is hosting wiki?
19:52 #navit: < bafplus> When a speedcam (poi-icon) is displayed on the map, it has some strange rendering problems
19:52 #navit: < bafplus> Solid colors are transarant and vise versa
19:52 #navit: < Mineque> hmm
19:53 #navit: < Mineque> how can i find speedcam?
19:53 #navit: < Mineque> i have only default map of munchen
19:53 #navit: < bafplus> it seems to ONLY apply on the speedcam-layer
19:55 #navit: < bafplus> Set up speedcams as described in the wiki (IGO8 csv), i will give you 1 line for the csv (speedcam.txt), you only have to change the coordinates to any coordinate on you're map ans it should be visable
19:56 #navit: < bafplus> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD#speed_cam
19:56 #navit: < bafplus> or use 1 line from the example csv and replace te coordinates
19:57 #navit: < bafplus> When you have updated navit.xml and the speedcam.txt you should see the camera on the given coordinate on youre map, just like a POI
19:59 #navit: < bafplus> btw..osd question...is it possible to make a button that has text without an image? or do you have to trick it  using a transparant png?
20:02 #navit: < Mineque> i'll check
20:05 #navit: < Mineque> damn, wiki lags
20:06 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, does wiki work fo you/
20:10 #navit: < bafplus> Sometimes..performance isue on server, having same problem for about a week
20:10 #navit: < bafplus> maybe i overload it with my extended research ;-)
20:14 #navit: < Mineque> or server owner is downloading all movies with sasha grey ;p
20:21 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, you can make some trick with two elements
20:21 #navit: < Mineque> first display text
20:21 #navit: < Mineque> then display transparent button
20:21 #navit: < Mineque> with width height no bgimage
20:22 #navit: < Mineque> afair i made sth like that to display distance counter layer
20:29 #navit: < bafplus> aha
20:40 #navit: < bafplus> Can we resize images? or does it need to use the original image size?
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21:03 #navit: < bafplus> say you want the "Next Maneouvre Icon" bigger, can yoy resize them from xml or do you have to resize all the png?
21:07 #navit: < Mineque> i guess navit can resize only svg
21:07 #navit: < Mineque> nothing more
21:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: wiki is on the main navit server. I believe that cp15 is paying for it
21:32 #navit: < bafplus> what is the correct (button) command to call the written direction (the list with all the directions)
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21:33 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5834 : Add:core:Added Piemontese, 57th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5834/
21:33 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5835 : Add:core:Added Marathi, 58th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5835/
21:35 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5838 : Add:core:Added Kannada, 61th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5838/
21:35 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5839 : Add:core:Added Frisian, 62th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5839/
21:37 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5841 : Add:core:Added Persian (Farsi), 64th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5841/
21:38 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5843 : Add:core:Added Kurdish (Sorani), 66th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5843/
21:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> \o/ 66 translations!
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21:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: gui.route_description() ?
21:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> "Shows a turn-by-turn description of the active route when in navigation mode."
21:50 #navit: < bafplus> Thanks, couldnt find it because wiki sidnt open ;-)
21:58 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5844 : Add:core:Added Swahili, 67th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5844/
22:00 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5845 : Add:core:Added Hindi, 68th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5845/
22:07 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5848 : Add:core:Added Welsh, 71th translation! http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5848/
22:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> interesting. the bot is missing commits. maybe an irc throttling
23:11 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5849 /trunk/navit/po/sw.po.in: Fix:Core:Fixed plural form for sw http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5849/
23:11 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5850 /trunk/navit/po/bs.po.in: Fix:Core:Fixed plural form for bs http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5850/
23:11 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5851 /trunk/navit/po/cy.po.in: Fix:Core:Fixed plural form for cy http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5851/
23:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: i just noticed that you can actually get .mo files directly from launchpad : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+export
23:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> so if you want to test some translations, you can edit the sentence, download the .mo without waiting for our nightly build
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23:44 #navit: < nate`> w00t, door panel in.  Flash card in.  I might finish this project this weekend, or at least next week
23:45 #navit: < nate`> have navit working, still trying to figure out which SDR i want to use still.
23:45 #navit: < nate`> Stupid beagle also plays mp3s and videos if I so dare.  Automatically connects to my cell phone teathered.
23:46 #navit: < nate`> plus expandable with a hacked powered USB hub.
23:47 #navit: < nate`> also have my MUX sorted and a piece of plastic to insert into my console for my CB/SDR/HAM/beagle (for GPS)
23:47 #navit: < nate`> so can listen to music while any of that's happening
23:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> nate`: nice. i'd love to see some media playing plugin framework, beside spotify
23:50 #navit: < nate`> I actually don't use spotify
23:50 #navit: < nate`> Does it have underground techno on it? :P
23:50 #navit: < nate`> I mean real techno, stuff that's never really played unless you're into it
23:50 #navit: < nate`> today's hacking music while I worked was richie hawtin's latest essential mix as well as Surgeon 1995-2005
23:52 #navit: < nate`> I still use themixingbowl.org for a lot of my random music.
23:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> looks like there is some richie hawtin songs indeed. http://open.spotify.com/artist/3AhwIUus3pIaA3CvYBEtpy
23:52 #navit: < nate`> Just one artist? :P
23:53 #navit: < nate`> he's mostly a DJ.
23:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> my point that if you setup direct mp3 playing or whatever, i'd love to setup the basis for a true media playing framework
23:55 #navit: < nate`> I'm just using a MUX for all of that.
23:55 #navit: < nate`> it's all analog :p
23:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> analog! wow :)
23:56 #navit: < nate`> Also tomorrow is a pig hunting hack project.  Should be a fun and easy one.
23:56 #navit: < nate`> KaZeR: yeah I still do analog circuits :p
23:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> actually i have another project for which i'm going to need a pcb, probably even with smd. would you recommend some place to order it?
23:58 #navit: < nate`> I've mostly used bread boards and things people have already built mostly.  I don't have time to spec out a custom PCB anymore.
23:58 #navit: < nate`> my pig project is a really ghetto hack.  You know those dollar store solar lights taht people put on their walk ways outside?
23:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
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