--- Log opened Mon Aug 25 00:00:41 2014 01:07 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-5878.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5878.failed 01:07 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 05:59 -!- hoschi_ [~marcus@2a02:908:eb51:ad80:4566:dd88:2d8e:cd47] has joined #navit 06:55 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 07:12 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has joined #navit 07:15 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 07:20 #navit: < Mineque> hi 07:46 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5ED0A3EE.cm-7-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #navit 07:46 #navit: < bafplus> hy 08:17 #navit: < Mineque> hey bafplus 08:18 #navit: < Mineque> working but found another bug 08:18 #navit: < Mineque> even two 08:18 #navit: < Mineque> with background color 08:18 #navit: < Mineque> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1247 08:18 #navit: < Mineque> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1246 08:19 #navit: < Mineque> might be helpfull for debuging if you had a problem 08:24 #navit: < bafplus> cool 08:32 #navit: < Mineque> https://github.com/mineque/navit-osd-darkblue/blob/master/images/v5.2-bg.png 08:32 #navit: < Mineque> updated to volume controls 08:33 #navit: < Mineque> with working spotify comands 08:33 #navit: < Mineque> mean assigned, not working 08:33 #navit: < Mineque> because dont have that plugin 08:45 -!- [1]bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has joined #navit 08:47 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5ED0A3EE.cm-7-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:47 -!- [1]bafplus is now known as bafplus 09:23 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 09:25 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 09:48 #navit: < hoschi_> hi 09:56 #navit: < Mineque> hi hoschi_ 11:15 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has joined #navit 11:16 -!- Charles_ [599bc5b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.155.197.180] has joined #navit 11:16 #navit: < Charles_> Hi guys 11:16 -!- Charles_ is now known as Guest17114 11:17 #navit: < Guest17114> I need some help for a project 11:17 #navit: < Guest17114> can somebody help me? 11:17 #navit: < bafplus> Depends an what you need 11:17 #navit: < Guest17114> I'm trying to develop a GPS 11:18 #navit: < Guest17114> wich calculates a different kind of routing 11:18 #navit: < bafplus> In what way...a navigation system? Hardware? 11:18 #navit: < Guest17114> no, just software 11:18 #navit: < Guest17114> in a mobile 11:18 #navit: < Guest17114> maybe android 11:19 #navit: < Guest17114> well, the idea is simple 11:19 #navit: < Guest17114> I have info from the police 11:19 #navit: < Guest17114> about car accidents 11:19 #navit: < Guest17114> and I want to program a gps that gives the "safest path" 11:19 #navit: < Guest17114> For that, I need to edit the OSM data 11:20 #navit: < bafplus> route with the least amount of car eccidents? 11:20 #navit: < Guest17114> yes 11:20 #navit: < Guest17114> I'm a computer science student 11:20 #navit: < Guest17114> I know that a map is a graph 11:20 #navit: < Guest17114> I want to modify the weights 11:21 #navit: < Guest17114> to a given way with a big number of accidents, I need to give more penalty 11:21 #navit: < Guest17114> to the routing algorithm evaluate that 11:22 #navit: < bafplus> i think thats possible, however thats way out of my knowledge :-) 11:23 #navit: < bafplus> But there are a few guys here that can halp you with that. 11:23 #navit: < Guest17114> hummm ok 11:23 #navit: < Guest17114> I really need that help 11:23 #navit: < Guest17114> is very important for my life 11:23 #navit: < Guest17114> it's for my thesis 11:23 #navit: < Guest17114> :) 11:24 #navit: < bafplus> hehe..i understand...just keep hanging out here, someone will answer you (most don't reply that fast as i just did...;-) ) 11:24 #navit: < Guest17114> hehe No problem :-) 11:24 #navit: < Guest17114> What is your area of acknowledgment? 11:24 #navit: < Guest17114> in Navit 11:39 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45 #navit: < Guest17114> I saw know that we can edit the way profile 11:46 #navit: < Guest17114> road profile * 11:47 #navit: < Mineque> i guess you rather need to read first osm wiki about data structure 11:47 #navit: < Mineque> than generate own map from that data 11:47 #navit: < Mineque> *then 11:47 #navit: < Mineque> and then tweak routing engine to use your profiles first 11:47 #navit: < Guest17114> yes buddy, I'm reading now 11:48 #navit: < Mineque> and in the end think if not change thesis topic :P 11:48 #navit: < Guest17114> I know a bit of Open Street Maps and OSRM (routing) 11:48 #navit: < Guest17114> and now I'm seeing that Navit has a similiar data structure 11:49 #navit: < Guest17114> Do you something about editing the road profile? 11:49 #navit: < Guest17114> is it possible? 11:49 #navit: < Mineque> osm is opensource everything possible 11:49 #navit: < Mineque> depends how much time and knowledge you have 11:50 #navit: < Guest17114> "The weighting which the routing algorithm should give this road type. A large route_weight will force the routing algorithm to choose that road type over others when calculating a route. This value is also used to calculate the route time remaining IF maxspeed_handling="2"." 11:50 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain and janderg might be helpful about maps structure and routing 11:50 #navit: < Mineque> and map generating 11:50 #navit: < Guest17114> I have 6 months 11:51 #navit: < Guest17114> I think it's enough 11:51 #navit: < Guest17114> Humm, but the modifications are made on OSM and not on Navit ? 11:52 #navit: < Guest17114> Janderg?Humm thanks .. I will come here to try to contact him :-) 11:58 #navit: < Mineque> Guest17114, depends on how you make change 11:58 #navit: < Mineque> if you want to define own road profile 11:58 #navit: < Mineque> or just set road you need to highest profile 11:58 #navit: < Mineque> first both need to be change 11:58 #navit: < Mineque> second only osm 11:59 #navit: < Guest17114> I think the 2nd one is the best 11:59 #navit: < Guest17114> Do u think I need to change the OSM graph? 12:00 #navit: < Mineque> you need to change roads properties 12:00 #navit: < Mineque> which stays in osm 12:00 #navit: < Mineque> afair 12:00 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:00 #navit: < Mineque> afaik* 12:01 #navit: < Guest17114> (I also want to add alerts when the car is a way with a high accident probabilities) 12:01 #navit: < Guest17114> is in a * 12:01 #navit: < Guest17114> humm ok.. Do you have some info or link that tells me how to do that? 12:02 #navit: < Guest17114> for the alerts, I need to add POI no? 12:03 #navit: < Mineque> no i dont 12:03 #navit: < Mineque> i'm not dev 12:03 #navit: < Mineque> sorry 12:04 #navit: < Mineque> browse wiki.navit-project.org and osm site 12:04 #navit: < Mineque> and navit code 12:04 #navit: < Mineque> for routing information 12:04 #navit: < Guest17114> Humm ok Mineque, thanks :-) 12:04 #navit: < Guest17114> I will investigate 12:05 #navit: < Guest17114> And I will try to talk with Janderg to 12:08 #navit: < Mineque> Guest17114, just stay online and wait for guys 12:08 #navit: < Guest17114> :-) 12:09 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5352AA37.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #navit 12:16 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5352AA37.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 12:18 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:8108:1940:914:f442:82c8:9908:4f8d] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19 -!- Guest17114 [599bc5b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.155.197.180] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:23 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:8108:1940:914:bdbf:7732:36ac:3be3] has joined #navit 13:25 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:42 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:09 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has joined #navit 14:27 -!- [1]bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has joined #navit 14:30 -!- Brinky_ [brinky@faui2k3.org] has joined #navit 14:31 -!- Brinky [brinky@faui2k3.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:31 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:32 -!- Brinky_ is now known as Brinky 14:34 -!- [1]bafplus is now known as bafplus 14:36 -!- tg [~x@unaffiliated/tg] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:39 -!- tg [~x@unaffiliated/tg] has joined #navit 14:55 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@user-94-254-209-33.play-internet.pl] has joined #navit 14:57 #navit: < bafplus> anyone faliliar with the odometer avarage-speed algorithm? 15:01 #navit: < bafplus> if i have a gps fix and i click on a map or use the "view on map" function, i have a avarage speed of 520 km/h :-) 15:06 #navit: < Mineque> damn, what you're driving? 15:06 #navit: < Mineque> Jet? 15:08 #navit: < bafplus> :-) 15:11 #navit: < Mineque> even if you reset it 15:11 #navit: < Mineque> and then turn on there are problems? 15:12 #navit: < bafplus> no, just untill you click or view a location that is far from you're location, somehow it takes that distance from "click on map" or something into account....should be ONLY gps data... 15:12 #navit: < Mineque> so maybe bug 15:13 #navit: < Mineque> i've played with odometer but always with demo vehicle 15:13 #navit: < Mineque> no gps 15:14 #navit: < bafplus> that and the timer ALWAYS running when there is a gps fix, should be only when navigation is active... 15:17 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, its time to get dirty and we should learn and fix code 15:19 #navit: < bafplus> i agree... afk...work ;-) 15:20 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 15:28 -!- Mineque_ [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 15:28 -!- Mineque_ is now known as Guest69995 15:31 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@user-94-254-209-33.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:39 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:48 -!- Guest69995 [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:22 -!- Carlospt [599bc5b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.155.197.180] has joined #navit 16:23 #navit: < Carlospt> Hi my friends 16:23 #navit: < Carlospt> Is there somedoby who knows about Routing and maps on Navit? 16:23 #navit: < Carlospt> Data structures,etc.. 16:44 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 16:48 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 17:03 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 17:04 #navit: < Mineque> re 17:13 #navit: < hoschi_> i am new but i know something about routing and structures, what is your question 17:14 #navit: < Carlospt> Hi hoshchi_ 17:14 #navit: < Carlospt> I'm computer science student and I know about graphs and routing algorithms 17:15 #navit: < Carlospt> what I want to do is to develop a GPS app 17:15 #navit: < Carlospt> using Navit 17:15 #navit: < hoschi_> ah ok 17:15 #navit: < Carlospt> but I want to create my own type of routing 17:15 #navit: < Carlospt> it's called the "safest path" 17:16 #navit: < Carlospt> I have a large info from police with car crash accidents per way 17:16 #navit: < Carlospt> And I want to modify the "way's cost" 17:16 #navit: < hoschi_> maybe it can be included into the graph structure 17:16 #navit: < Carlospt> Yes, I think that is the best solution 17:16 #navit: < hoschi_> edges alias segments are structs and can be extended, also the routing algorithm 17:17 #navit: < hoschi_> have a look into route.c, there is everything you need for that 17:17 #navit: < Carlospt> My idea is to change the cost 17:17 #navit: < Carlospt> where is that file? 17:18 #navit: < Carlospt> I have not dowloaded anything yet 17:18 #navit: < Carlospt> ;-) 17:18 #navit: < Carlospt> .I was thinking to use OSM maps, and change the graph 17:22 #navit: < Carlospt> I'm seeing now the route.c. It seems very complex 17:26 #navit: < hoschi_> yeah its a bit fancy 17:26 #navit: < Carlospt> My questionn now is 17:27 #navit: < Carlospt> From what I saw 17:27 #navit: < hoschi_> route_graph_flood() is the Dijkstra implementation, but at first have a look into the wiki! Its not very detailed but gives an overview what is under the hood 17:27 #navit: < Carlospt> route.c file takes info from the map 17:27 #navit: < Carlospt> exactly 17:27 #navit: < hoschi_> yeah 17:27 #navit: < Carlospt> But I need to change the weight of the ways´ 17:27 #navit: < hoschi_> and the map-data is retrieved from plug-ins for example binfile 17:28 #navit: < Carlospt> What I want to do is for ways with a high fee of accidents I want to give a bigger weight 17:28 #navit: < Carlospt> Don't you think that has to be done in the map data? 17:28 #navit: < hoschi_> then you have to identify them, have a look into route_graph_build() function 17:29 #navit: < Carlospt> let me see 17:29 #navit: < hoschi_> the graph is build from binfile data, not read from binfile directly 17:30 #navit: < Carlospt> I saw now 17:30 #navit: < hoschi_> :) 17:30 #navit: < Carlospt> well , I think I don't need to change the route.c file 17:30 #navit: < hoschi_> nice, ok then leave a message here i have to go for now 17:30 #navit: < hoschi_> i think you have to edit it ;) 17:31 #navit: < Carlospt> but how do I identify the way? 17:31 #navit: < Carlospt> a way* 17:32 #navit: < hoschi_> a way is constructed from segments and points, and identified by the dijkstra which sets costs to the points 17:32 -!- hoschi_ [~marcus@2a02:908:eb51:ad80:4566:dd88:2d8e:cd47] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32 -!- hoschi [~marcus@2a02:908:eb51:ad80:4566:dd88:2d8e:cd47] has joined #navit 17:33 #navit: < Carlospt> My Database of accidents I only have "Street" - "Number of accidents". I don't know how to map that into the route.c analysis 17:36 -!- hoschi [~marcus@2a02:908:eb51:ad80:4566:dd88:2d8e:cd47] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:50 #navit: < Mineque> Carlospt, i guess best would be just add new field for street with some range 17:51 #navit: < Mineque> 1-10 17:51 #navit: < Mineque> 1 means 0-10accidents daily 17:51 #navit: < Mineque> 2 10-30 daily 17:51 #navit: < Mineque> etc 17:51 #navit: < Mineque> but that would need many changes in data source 17:51 #navit: < Carlospt> Humm, but where do I add that info? 17:51 #navit: < Mineque> and navit 17:51 #navit: < Carlospt> In the OSM map 17:52 #navit: < Mineque> [19:34:23] .:Carlospt:. My Database of accidents I only have "Street" - "Number of accidents". I don't know how to map that into the route.c analysis 17:52 #navit: < Mineque> you need to provide that info 17:52 #navit: < Mineque> or ask local police department 17:52 #navit: < Mineque> i dont know if osm support such data by itself 17:53 #navit: < Carlospt> I have that info 17:53 #navit: < Carlospt> from police and ensurance companies 17:54 #navit: < Carlospt> but now, I don't know how to add it to data model 17:55 #navit: < Carlospt> If I could change the graph struct it would be perfect 18:13 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has joined #navit 18:13 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:24 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 18:27 -!- woglinde [~henning@g225131068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 18:33 #navit: < Mineque> Carlospt, for data model you need to check osm wiki i guess 18:33 #navit: < Mineque> but guessing only 18:33 #navit: < Carlospt> yeah, thanks 18:33 #navit: < Carlospt> Another thing, is it possible to add Alerts on Navit? 18:34 #navit: < Carlospt> Like, when getting closer to a zone with a specific POI, the gps system talks an alert 18:36 #navit: < Mineque> rather just adding new group of poi and define distance to alert 18:36 #navit: < Mineque> if there is some 18:37 #navit: < Carlospt> humm 18:37 #navit: < Carlospt> Do you know the file that I can add those configs? 18:42 #navit: < Mineque> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Custom_POIs 18:43 #navit: < Mineque> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Category:Maps 18:43 #navit: < Carlospt> TKS ;) 18:46 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 18:50 -!- Carlospt [599bc5b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.155.197.180] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:50 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 19:03 -!- [1]bafplus [~bafplus@5ED0A3EE.cm-7-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #navit 19:06 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@go.allip.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:06 -!- [1]bafplus is now known as bafplus 19:27 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:35 -!- woglinde_ [~henning@f053043014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 19:38 -!- woglinde [~henning@g225131068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.90] has joined #navit 20:00 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 20:14 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:21 #navit: < tryagain> hoschi I have replaced now_ms() with zero. And there are lots of uninitialized variable usage warninigs during compile. 20:23 #navit: < tryagain> after the above, it did not crash for me. Results are here http://pastebin.com/xJCgjsvs 20:26 -!- woglinde_ [~henning@f053043014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:26 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052016214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 20:31 #navit: < tryagain> hoschi and you actually may be running out of memory, as 22k is a single item counter, it's unknown how many items and coords are actually stored at the time of crash. What if you run top in parallel, doesnt it show you're exhausting all the memory? 20:55 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 20:58 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5ED0A3EE.cm-7-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, hello 20:59 #navit: < Mineque> got a minute? 21:07 #navit: < Mineque> have you seen #1246 #1247? 21:08 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:15 #navit: < Mineque> guess not :) 21:21 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:21 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 21:47 #navit: < Mineque> good night guys 21:47 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00 -!- bzed_ [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has joined #navit 22:02 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:02 -!- bzed_ is now known as bzed 22:14 -!- nate` [~west@unworkable-box.nb.kolo.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:16 -!- nate` [~west@unworkable-box.nb.kolo.net] has joined #navit 22:16 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5ED0A3EE.cm-7-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #navit 22:36 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 23:24 -!- bafplus [~bafplus@5ED0A3EE.cm-7-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] --- Log closed Tue Aug 26 00:00:41 2014