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01:09 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5889.failed
01:09 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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11:01 #navit: < Guest9161> porting navit to arm with qt5
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11:06 #navit: < tauso> Hi
11:07 #navit: < tauso> Is the Planet Extracator broken (again)? Last map version is from twoo weeks ago.
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16:27 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer , thx for the comment on my housenumbersearch but can you clarify your comment :
16:27 #navit: < jandegr> need an automated way to ensure that there is no regressions with this change tho
16:27 #navit: < jandegr> ?
16:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> my concern is that today it's quit easy to break something which was working in another part of the world because it's handled differently in another country
16:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> and, overall, we have almost no automated tests in navit. we need to change that, it will help facilitate the process of changing core stuffs
16:33 #navit: < jandegr> but we have bafplus now :)
16:33 #navit: < jandegr> but I get what you mean
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16:36 #navit: < jandegr> the risk is when it falls back to search by estimate because I now limit the amount the area can grow,
16:39 #navit: < jandegr> Kazer I think we should together go over the list of countries that do not have boundary mapping yet, makes a big difference for searches.
16:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> that makes sense
16:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> on my side i've been having a look at travis and jenkins. i'd like to build a set of automated tests to prevent regressions
16:43 #navit: < Mineque> hi
16:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey Mineque
16:51 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR, pm
16:52 #navit: < jandegr> some time next week I'll make a shortlist of candidate countries for city boundary mapping.
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> great jandegr
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17:50 #navit: < bafplus> So i'm an official tester...cool! ;-)
17:52 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : even as an alternative to an automated test
17:53 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, cup of rice is cheapier than cpu cycles ;P
17:54 #navit: < jandegr> ok, we have two testing automates :)
18:00 #navit: < bafplus> jan, i have a log and track with the turn streets error, don't know what you would like to see there because its a source/string error, but do you want them?
18:01 #navit: < bafplus> KaZeR?
18:04 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : I can have a look at it some time next week, but by then I'll probably see the solution on SF
18:04 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/24edbc8ef7d4b072aecc73d46cd2b63320140904180421/2906d8f71e1261716a45cf28238dbc4f20140904180421/da162d
18:05 #navit: < bafplus> the whole problem is that 2 of the 3 "strings" are not filled by navit...
18:05 #navit: < jandegr> I was more shocked to find out it happened to me there where navit sends me into a oneway street the wrong way !!!
18:07 #navit: < bafplus> That happends a lot, but thats wrong data in openstreetmaps i guess, it does however produce this "text" when misfix or driving off-route
18:08 #navit: < jandegr> No, I checked OSM, did bafplus not read my commen on  #1240 ?
18:09 #navit: < bafplus> i bet i did...but just can't remember ;-)
18:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: i think it would be best to create a ticket. some devs don't use irc much, you'll get a wider audience with a ticket
18:24 #navit: < bafplus> I will post it somewhere in the next days...
18:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> great thanks
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19:01 #navit: < jandegr> quote bafplus "it does however produce this "text" when misfix or driving off-route" - is related to me taking another road to avoid the oneway
19:26 #navit: < bafplus> indeed ja, it seems to mostly use this string when driving wrong direction/off-route and navit tries to redirect you back on track (before recalculating)
19:26 #navit: < bafplus> But a few times it is used to actualy direct you to the "second street on the left/right"...
19:30 #navit: < bafplus> we should test this with english language files, just to see if it is a language string error or a source-error.
19:30 #navit: < bafplus> I however have nog english language wav's...
19:32 #navit: < jandegr> I think the oneway issue has higher priority, I only use navit in my second car since that incident
19:33 #navit: < jandegr> my second car is the demo vehicle, uses no fuel, I'm allways alone on the road and allways lives left after an incident
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19:44 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : you should concentrate on "after x roads" it switches to that phrase when it can not transform a number
19:45 #navit: < jandegr> example : it transforms five to fifth for the scentence : take the x road ...
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19:46 #navit: < jandegr> if the number is above navit's power to transform, it switches to "after x roads", don't know up to what number it can transform, but points to a code error.
19:47 #navit: < jandegr> I checked the routine where it chooses between the two phrases and found nothing wrong there.
19:54 #navit: < bafplus> jan, you are better at this than me...when you run a demo car with this error, could you try englisch language to see if that has the same error?
19:55 #navit: < bafplus> If it has, its a routine error, if it doesen't, its a language string error..
19:55 #navit: < jandegr> edit : it can translate up to "sixth"
19:57 #navit: < jandegr> can not take demo car off route and it takes much pleasure into driving into a oneway, we need a tester with a real car
19:58 #navit: < bafplus> or use my track end redrive it with the testcar?
19:59 #navit: < bafplus> about one way....can we have arrows on the map for one-way streets and its direction?
20:01 #navit: < bafplus> something like this: http://www.attleborodermatology.com/images/gfx/map03.jpg
20:02 #navit: < jandegr> arrows are on OSM but not on navit, navit should not send us in there in the first place.
20:04 #navit: < bafplus> true, but would also be nice to have a visual representation, sometimes you have to choose a route yourself (like with a roadblock), then you can see if you can drive there or not...
20:05 #navit: < bafplus> and if the direction is correct and navit makes a mistake or that the map is wrong...
20:11 #navit: < jandegr> if navit sends us in a oneway, it means in some way navit is not ware it is a oneway, Navit is not evil by nature.
20:12 #navit: < jandegr> if you want to rely on arrows navit would show you they would probably be missing in those same places
20:12 #navit: < jandegr> so fix the oneway first, arrows later
20:13 #navit: < bafplus> true....
20:15 #navit: < jandegr> but if you can some time next week provide some samples of ignored oneways, I can make screenshots of each with the demo vehicle driving them in the opposite direction.
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20:15 #navit: < jandegr> and I already have one sample of my own.
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20:35 #navit: < bafplus> i will keep logging and try to mark it when it happends (and remember to mark it ;-) )
20:50 #navit: < jandegr> bye folks
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21:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> or use my track end redrive it with the testcar? : it's easily done using the "file" vehicle source
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