--- Log opened Tue Sep 16 00:00:58 2014 02:38 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 06:53 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has joined #navit 07:22 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:23 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 08:10 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:18 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 12:42 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:43 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has joined #navit 13:46 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:47 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:47 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has joined #navit 14:47 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 15:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 15:41 -!- jandegr [51f377a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.243.119.162] has joined #navit 16:39 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:40 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has joined #navit 16:40 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 17:21 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 17:28 #navit: < Mineque> hi 17:28 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, i've made test i'll show results 17:28 #navit: < Mineque> uploading 17:34 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, http://imgur.com/a/PQsWY 17:35 #navit: < Mineque> poland, Poland3s5cmT, Poland3s5c7M 17:57 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.63] has joined #navit 17:58 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, hi 17:58 #navit: < tryagain> hi Mineque 17:58 #navit: < Mineque> i've tested all three maps as you can see in backlog 17:58 #navit: < tryagain> probably last picture is Poland3s5cmT 17:58 #navit: < Mineque> no 17:58 #navit: < Mineque> [19:34:46] .:Mineque:. jandegr, http://imgur.com/a/PQsWY 17:58 #navit: < Mineque> [19:35:16] .:Mineque:. poland, Poland3s5cmT, Poland3s5c7M 17:59 #navit: < Mineque> ah 17:59 #navit: < Mineque> yes 17:59 #navit: < tryagain> hm.. so Poland3s5cmT gives less verbosity? 17:59 #navit: < tryagain> ah 17:59 #navit: < Mineque> fucked order 17:59 #navit: < Mineque> i'm curious if it'll look fine on vertical display 18:00 #navit: < Mineque> so many info 18:00 #navit: < jandegr> in 15 minutes I will have time 18:00 #navit: < tryagain> we might implement some scrolling (later) 18:00 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, or smaller side two lines 18:00 #navit: < Mineque> *size 18:01 #navit: < tryagain> sure 18:01 #navit: < Mineque> last two info smaller second line 18:02 #navit: < tryagain> but i see for now no towns which are distinguished only with Poland3s5cmT. Probably a very rare case, does it actually happen somewhere? 18:03 #navit: < Mineque> you mean? 18:04 #navit: < Mineque> maybe results order is different? 18:04 #navit: < tryagain> i mean case where town_name1=town_name2 adm4_1=adm4_2 adm6_1=adm6_2 adm7_1=adm7_2 18:04 #navit: < tryagain> *withou t adm7_1=adm7_2 18:05 #navit: < tryagain> so names are the same and admin levels 4 and 6 are the same 18:06 #navit: < tryagain> so you can't see which one town do you need with Poland3s5c7M, but can differentiate with Poland3s5cmT 18:07 #navit: < tryagain> are there actually such towns in nature? 18:09 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR any success applying the diff? 18:10 #navit: < jandegr> FYI the first one 'poland' was in fact 3s567M 18:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey folks 18:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: which diff ? TL;DR :) 18:19 #navit: < Mineque> hi KaZeR 18:19 #navit: < tryagain> hey KaZeR, osm daily diff 18:20 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque or maybe level 4 is not necessary? Actually in Russia, we have an upper level of admin division, called Federal Districts. Almost always nobody cares about Federal Districts, because lower level, oblast (region, federal subject) has names not repeating through the country. So navit doesnt care about FD's too. 18:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: nop, same issue with osmconvert.c copied from the regular mapserver 18:21 #navit: < tryagain> have you read logs? 18:21 #navit: < tryagain> channel logs? 18:21 #navit: < tryagain> I was telling you to read your mail ;) 18:22 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, can we somehow get result counter? 18:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha :) i'll try to catch up with the channel log later, checking emails now :) 18:23 #navit: < tryagain> Actually it takes forever when you convert .osm or pbf with --merge-versions option 18:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> found your email. ok good to know.. 18:23 #navit: < jandegr> for clarity the upper pic is 3s567M, middle is 3s5c7M, bottom pic is 3s5cmT 18:23 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, yes i've switched description on last two 18:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: there is really not much happening when it hangs : http://sd-55475.dedibox.fr/k/osmconvert.strace it hangs really soon in the process... 18:31 #navit: < tryagain> I guess it might be reading mmaped() file contents to compare each object with all others to find latest version. So no syscalls. I have run gdb on it, and it does not hang completely. o5m files probaby considered id-ordered, so this loop does not happen. Again, it's only a guess. 18:32 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque what if we skip wojwodstwo's from binfile? Will it affect usability? 18:32 #navit: < Mineque> no way 18:32 #navit: < Mineque> wait 18:32 #navit: < Mineque> you mean Word or whole input 18:33 #navit: < tryagain> whole input 18:33 #navit: < Mineque> no way 18:33 #navit: < Mineque> we could cut "wojewodztwo" word 18:33 #navit: < Mineque> poland is splitted into 16 województwa 18:34 #navit: < Mineque> we rather could ignore gmina 18:34 #navit: < tryagain> are there equally named powiat's in different województwa? 18:35 #navit: < Mineque> hmm 18:35 #navit: < Mineque> powiat name is dependant of city name, and city names arent unique 18:35 #navit: < Mineque> but i cant confirm or deny 18:36 #navit: < tryagain> so if you send a paper mail, you always write województwa name? 18:36 #navit: < Mineque> ok i check 18:36 #navit: < Mineque> no 18:36 #navit: < Mineque> that solves postal code 18:37 #navit: < Mineque> wiki says that there are ten non unique powiat names 18:37 #navit: < Mineque> we write only city/village, street and postal code 18:39 #navit: < tryagain> ok, then we should keep 'em all. As postal code seems to be not existent in osm and for foreigners like me it's easier to remember administrative division than postal code. 18:40 #navit: < Mineque> sure 18:41 #navit: < Mineque> if it's problematic we might remove gmina input 18:41 #navit: < Mineque> or can leave it and wait for feedback 18:42 #navit: < tryagain> it will be just cut out if it doesnt fit the screen. But wil be still reachable in town item attributes. 18:42 #navit: < Mineque> so i would leave it 18:44 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr any con's? 18:46 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, is it possile to add search input to main menu screen and on click keyboard? 18:48 #navit: < tryagain> please explain... You want to see "town" button in the top menu instead of inside "actions"? 18:48 #navit: < Mineque> i want to see empty "input" field above buttons 18:49 #navit: < Mineque> when i click it keyboard will show up letting me start searching 18:49 #navit: < Mineque> i guess 80% pressing menu is for searching 18:50 #navit: < tryagain> ah, no way currently 18:50 #navit: < tryagain> but we can move "town" button into top menu. So number of clicks will be the same 18:51 #navit: < jandegr> I am fine with any choice you make regarding poland map 18:53 #navit: < tryagain> commited in r5896 18:53 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, i dont know if i can handle such responsibility :P 18:54 #navit: < tryagain> we russians are not that careful about maps ;) 18:54 #navit: < Mineque> rotfl 18:55 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, we remember 1772 1793 1795 ;) 18:58 #navit: < jandegr> Looking for testers for maps of Austria, iceland, ireland, luxembourg, see https://db.tt/9yKhzHwe for download links of testmaps 18:59 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque Było - minęło ;) 19:00 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, i hope you are not planning next eurotrip :P 19:01 #navit: < tryagain> actually that was the reason i came into navit development ;) 19:01 #navit: < Mineque> tank navi? :D 19:03 #navit: < tryagain> well i was thinking about some more peaceful vehicle... Do you think i should take tank? 19:03 #navit: < Mineque> best for traffic jams and offroad 19:06 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 19:06 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has joined #navit 19:10 #navit: < Mineque> is it possible to got back to results screen after pressing "city" -> "show results on map" 19:12 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque no 19:13 #navit: < Mineque> ok 20:02 -!- Irssi: No PONG reply from server irc.freenode.net in 301 seconds, disconnecting 20:02 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net 20:02 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 20:02 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 20:02 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.freenode.net [185.30.166.38] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort 20:02 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.freenode.net established 20:02 !orwell.freenode.net *** Looking up your hostname... 20:02 !orwell.freenode.net *** Checking Ident 20:02 !orwell.freenode.net *** Found your hostname 20:02 !orwell.freenode.net *** No Ident response 20:02 -!- Welcome to the freenode Internet Relay Chat Network NavitLogger 20:02 -!- Your host is orwell.freenode.net[185.30.166.38/6667], running version ircd-seven-1.1.3 20:02 -!- This server was created Sat Feb 22 2014 at 16:03:54 BRT 20:02 -!- orwell.freenode.net ircd-seven-1.1.3 DOQRSZaghilopswz CFILMPQSbcefgijklmnopqrstvz bkloveqjfI 20:02 -!- CHANTYPES=# EXCEPTS INVEX CHANMODES=eIbq,k,flj,CFLMPQScgimnprstz CHANLIMIT=#:120 PREFIX=(ov)@+ MAXLIST=bqeI:100 MODES=4 NETWORK=freenode KNOCK STATUSMSG=@+ CALLERID=g are supported by this server 20:02 -!- CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390 ETRACE CPRIVMSG CNOTICE DEAF=D MONITOR=100 FNC TARGMAX=NAMES:1,LIST:1,KICK:1,WHOIS:1,PRIVMSG:4,NOTICE:4,ACCEPT:,MONITOR: are supported by this server 20:02 -!- EXTBAN=$,ajrxz WHOX CLIENTVER=3.0 SAFELIST ELIST=CTU are supported by this server 20:02 -!- There are 189 users and 93613 invisible on 29 servers 20:02 -!- 30 IRC Operators online 20:02 -!- 15 unknown connection(s) 20:02 -!- 55586 channels formed 20:02 -!- I have 12242 clients and 1 servers 20:02 -!- 12242 15001 Current local users 12242, max 15001 20:02 -!- 93802 104047 Current global users 93802, max 104047 20:02 -!- Highest connection count: 15002 (15001 clients) (1029194 connections received) 20:02 -!- - orwell.freenode.net Message of the Day - 20:02 -!- - Welcome to orwell.freenode.net in Amsterdam, NL. 20:02 -!- - Thanks to http://www.hyperfilter.com/ for sponsoring 20:02 -!- - this server! 20:02 -!- - 20:02 -!- - ORWELL, GEORGE [1903 - 1950] Born in India, his mother 20:02 -!- - moved him to England when he was one year old, and it 20:02 -!- - was in England where he was educated and spent most of 20:02 -!- - his life. 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See http://wiki.navit-project.org. Please be patient if you don't get a response immediately. Please use http://navit.pastebin.com for your pastes! Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter. 20:02 -!- Topic set by KaZeR [~kazer@4.170.67.86.rev.sfr.net] [Mon May 23 17:10:04 2011] 20:02 [Users #navit] 20:02 [@ChanServ] [ bzed ] [ jandegr ] [ NavitLogger] [ tryagain] 20:02 [@Horwitz ] [ ColdFyre] [ latouche] [ noradtux ] 20:02 [@KaZeR ] [ curious ] [ magruder] [ Number6 ] 20:02 [ _jac_ ] [ hape_ ] [ Mineque ] [ pini ] 20:02 [ Brinky ] [ j_f-f ] [ Navit ] [ tg ] 20:02 -!- Irssi: #navit: Total of 21 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 20:02 -!- Channel #navit created Sun Nov 26 06:47:57 2006 20:02 -!- Irssi: Join to #navit was synced in 6 secs 20:03 #navit: < jandegr> ok kazer, we want your week-ends to be without issues :) 20:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha thanks :) 20:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's the opportunity to unveil smth i have been working on lately : i want to improve our QA and testing automation. I've came up with this " 20:09 #navit: < Mineque> "i want to improve our QA" 20:09 #navit: < Mineque> how? 20:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> before your patch : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riBuSl-Te9s (we can see the issue) and after the patch : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h_PJ-nPO2s 20:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: automated testing. it has been useful for my last experimentations 20:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> we can catch some failures and i hope to be able to catch some potential regressions too 20:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> now we just need to write the scripts :) 20:10 #navit: < Mineque> i'm dissapointed, there's no my osd 20:10 #navit: < Mineque> ;) 20:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> the OSD is configurable with a single line in the script :) 20:11 #navit: < Mineque> aaaah 20:11 #navit: < Mineque> quality assurance, i was thinking about question and answer, means better trac tickets handling ;) 20:11 #navit: < Mineque> damn 20:12 #navit: < jandegr> kazer this is amazing 20:12 #navit: < jandegr> glad I could offer an issue and a patch to demonstrate it 20:13 #navit: < Mineque> hmm, why i didnt met this error? 20:13 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5897 /trunk/navit/navit/item.h: Fix:core:Fixes a navigation issue turn http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5897/ 20:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks jandegr. It started as a screenshot tool to check OSD layouts, but we can do much much more now 20:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: seems to occur only on some specific parking lots. That's when i noticed it on Sunday 20:15 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, but please dont offer more issues, only patch :P 20:15 #navit: < jandegr> the navit users thank you for the commit, I'll try to keep them coming 20:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> way to go :D 20:15 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR, ah, ok i didnt ride parking lots with demo car :P 20:15 #navit: < jandegr> why mineque ? 20:16 #navit: < Mineque> joking about providing new issues ;) 20:16 #navit: < jandegr> I don't make issues, I only find them 20:16 #navit: < Mineque> i know 20:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you guys are interested in helping setting up this automation let me know. at some point i'll throw some notes in the wiki, but we will probably need hands to expand the script to get a better coverage of the use cases 20:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> like postal code searches :) 20:18 #navit: < jandegr> ok I admint that was less good 20:18 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR: we guys want google search! 20:19 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR: what kind of test are possible? 20:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: it's actually working quite well since i changed the multithreading approach 20:19 #navit: < Mineque> it didnt worked before? 20:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> it was working really well, but when on the road over GSM connection latency (and hence UI response ) was bad 20:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: anything that you can think of, should be tested: traveling from A to B, and any UI-related activity 20:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> i still have to add a shorter timeout when no network is available, otherwise the UI hangs for ~30s 20:41 -!- jandegr [51f377a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.243.119.162] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:04 #navit: < Mineque> gn guys 21:04 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Sep 17 00:00:58 2014