--- Log opened Wed Sep 17 00:00:58 2014 01:04 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5897.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-5897.failed 01:04 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 01:48 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: curious, Navit 01:48 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: magruder, ColdFyre 01:50 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Navit, curious, ColdFyre, magruder 02:10 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:11 -!- Navit [~Navit@www.v6.navit-project.org] has joined #navit 06:33 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 06:38 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has joined #navit 10:35 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 12:24 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- Celelibi [~celelibi@2a02-8426-50a1-9d00-021b-2fff-fe35-963d.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 15:27 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 15:35 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:53 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:29 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.102] has joined #navit 16:33 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has joined #navit 16:33 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 16:34 -!- jandegr [51f377a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.243.119.162] has joined #navit 16:35 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer, I made another comment on #1250 despite the commit and the closing of the ticket, important for your weekend drives ! 16:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> ah! thanks for caring about my week-end drives :D 16:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. i reviewed the video QA and indeed. There is no more turn smth error, but the announcement is missing instead 16:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> good catch! 16:44 #navit: < jandegr> thx, I suppost the XML's won't be updated right away but as long as it is not forgotten. 16:45 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR i guess we have to set last routable item to former_itinerary_part 16:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: can you elaborate please ? 16:45 #navit: < tryagain> to have forest_way_s included 16:46 #navit: < tryagain> and different piste types 16:46 #navit: < tryagain> there are more possibly routable items after parking_lane 16:47 #navit: < tryagain> and we should include these into xml too 16:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> good point 16:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> by setting the parking lane in navit.xml, i'm getting the following routing output : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXh0QQWdrLg 16:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> i have the feeling that the audio routing isn't super accurate, not sure i would follow the correct route without looking at the map 16:52 #navit: < jandegr> kazer I get what you mean but you give the moste complicated sample I've ever seen, I usually leave the parking lot towards the roundabout on the north of it 16:53 #navit: < jandegr> and then announcement is realistic 16:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha jandegr i only used the coordinates you gave me and set a destination outside of the parking :) 16:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> well that makes sense, when you are on a parking you usually know how to get out of it. 16:55 #navit: < jandegr> and I am convinced this is the way to go, either announce it or not, no inbetweens like 'go left error' or only follow the road's as in your first vid. 16:55 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #navit 16:56 #navit: < Mineque> hi 16:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: yeah we definitely want to avoid having 'error' in the message 16:57 #navit: < jandegr> and as tryagain pointed out, with the same effort we can solve issues when he is cruising through the forest or skiing :) 16:58 #navit: < jandegr> and navigation.c does not really have a logic to skip certain navigation items either, the best it can do is deliberatly produce error 17:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @KaZeR, Number6 17:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @KaZeR, Number6 17:01 #navit: < tryagain> maybe patch navigation.c to find first and last routable item by analyzing routing profile? 17:03 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain please do not do that right away, I think we have to track existing bugs first before making big changes. 17:04 #navit: < jandegr> I also have a related #1240 that I am still working on to solve first 17:09 #navit: < tryagain> ok jandegr 17:12 #navit: < jandegr> follow the road for the next zero meters if nice too, I suppose that means we have a liftoff now :( 17:16 #navit: < jandegr> does follow the road for the next ... meters not have a threshold somewhere ? don't need that for zero, 10, 30 or whatever meters, or is ther someting in xml to arrange this ? 17:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw tryagain, do you know what happened to the attributes distance_metric ? 17:31 #navit: < jandegr> distance_metric was removed in r5822 ??? 17:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm actually there's indeed no more reference to it in the code 17:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> so the commit makes sense 17:39 #navit: < jandegr> I don't know any of the background of it , but I get a bunch of error messages when starting navit 17:41 #navit: < jandegr> navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'distance_metric' with value .... is this related ? 17:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes. you need to remove the distance_metric attributes in navit.xml. 17:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll fix navit_shipped.xml 17:44 #navit: < jandegr> as far as I understand the values of level 0,1 and two for distance become or already are useless ? 17:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes. i'm not sure of why they have been removed, but the navigation does not use them anymore 17:59 #navit: < tryagain> it was sleske removing unsued items from the item_def.h He probably forgot to fix navit_shipped. And routing code didn't use distance_metric at that time. 18:02 #navit: < jandegr> this will drasticly reduce the number of lines in xml :) 18:07 #navit: < Mineque> same as removing map layout colors would reduce it 18:07 #navit: < Mineque> just single line include 18:07 #navit: < Mineque> from map_layouts subdir 18:14 #navit: < Mineque> but cp15 didnt like the idea 18:15 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> he had his reasons for that, one of them being that it was easier to maintain a single xml file for ALL devices / platform that you can parse afterwards. that makes sense, even if it can be a bit of a pain in some use cases 19:08 #navit: < Mineque> womens IT stuff http://www.zabawneobrazki.pl/obrazki/informatyczki.jpg 19:11 #navit: < Navit> kazer_ * r5898 /trunk/navit/navit/navit_shipped.xml: Fix:Core:Removed deprecated distance_metric attributes from navit_shipped.xml, as a follow up to r5822 http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5898/ 19:19 #navit: < jandegr> kazer don't take my word for it but why keep level if you remove distance ? 19:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: good point. I have to confess i did not check if level could be removed. I only noticed the distance_metric debug output complaining about the attribute not existing 19:22 #navit: < jandegr> I understand you were carefull, but to me it seems like a key-value pair, you removed the value but keep the key, but I will test it in the next few days what happens if key is removed also 19:59 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@gdu163.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:01 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052228079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 20:29 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 20:46 -!- jandegr [51f377a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.243.119.162] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:50 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052228079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:12 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42 -!- pastor [~religion1@101.174.151.86] has joined #navit 23:44 -!- pastor [~religion1@101.174.151.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Thu Sep 18 00:00:58 2014