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01:14 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5983.failed
01:14 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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10:17 #navit: < tryagain_> hi all
10:19 #navit: < tryagain_> current svn attempts to scale map layouts, support for higher dpi added. testers are welcome.
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16:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
16:14 #navit: < jandegr_> ha kazer
16:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> what's up jandegr_ ?
16:15 #navit: < jandegr_> if you mean Navit-wise, I only produced #1279
16:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> i mean whatever you find interesting, but i'll check updates on #1279 :)
16:19 #navit: < jandegr_> for the rest it's waiting on your verdict after your long christmass drive :)
16:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> hehe :)
16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll be back on Sunday, not sure i'll have internet access between Thursday and sunday to share my first impressions
16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh i witnessed #1279 too
16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> i have another place where it happens. i believe it's due to the secondary / tertiary but not 100% sure
16:21 #navit: < jandegr_> both issues in #1279 can happen just about everywhere, and I already provide a solution :)
16:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> i actually answered from reading the title and seeing the screenshot. your analysis is really good
16:23 #navit: < jandegr_> it's just the facts
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16:31 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> can navit be compiled to work on a device (like the nano note or zipit) with 32mb ram? I know it can't do routing but are there any other snags?
16:31 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> 300mhz+ cpu
16:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> gottosortoutanic: we used to build navit on some really low profile devices, but 32MB is really low :)
16:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> gottosortoutanic: what arm version is it exactly ?
16:37 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> KaZeR, NHPXA270CS G7064572.1 0728 C312 - Marvell PXA270 cpu running at 312mhz
16:37 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> for the zipit]
16:38 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> https://mozzwald.com/zipitz2
16:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm funny device
16:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> have you seen the gallery ? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Screenshots_gallery
16:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> if it runs linux, it should run navit
16:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'd love to hear more about navit on your device
16:44 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> i dread thinking of trying to compiling it
16:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> compiling on this device can take a while. are you familiar with cross compiling ?
16:47 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> only a tiny bit in other words a newbie
16:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. what distro are you running on your device ?
16:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> from what i see it seems to be arm 5t. i've used navit in the past on a ARMv4T, but it had more ram
16:51 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> openwrt
16:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok
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16:52 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> I've been pointed to a working (older version btw) comping tools to run on the zipit it self
16:52 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> compiling
16:53 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> but i expect i will need a desktop to compile due to the large amount of ram
16:53 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> needed?
16:54 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> for the internel gui does it need gtk or is it sdl frame buffered?
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can run navit in a framebuffer but i have't done it in a while
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> i think it might be able to compile on your device but it might take ages
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> compliing on the raspberry pi is already ~1h iirc
16:55 #navit: < woglinde> lol
16:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey woglinde :)
16:56 #navit: < woglinde> I would never compile something on the pi
16:56 #navit: < woglinde> besides hello world
16:56 #navit: < woglinde> openwrt is setup for crosscompiling
16:59 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> and does it need libs like gtk or sdl or is it standalone?
16:59 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> sdl ant it?
16:59 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> sdl isn't it?
17:00 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> thanks btw
17:01 #navit: < woglinde> you can configure navit so its using sdl only
17:03 #navit: < gottosortoutanic> ok great
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18:34 #navit: < Celelibi> Do you know if it's normal that cat /dev/ttyUSB0 return nothing?
18:35 #navit: < Celelibi> I'm indoor, I don't expect to get any signal.
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18:35 #navit: < Celelibi> But... I don't know, maybe the GPS antenna could show someting.
18:35 #navit: < Celelibi> +h
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18:50 #navit: < tryagain> Celelibi i would expect it to return something. Are you sure you have choosen the correct device? Is should become obvious if you connect/reconnect it and look your dmesg output.
18:51 #navit: < Celelibi> It's a new kernel, I'm doing some tests before tomorrow.
18:52 #navit: < Celelibi> dmesg say it's /dev/ttyUSB0
18:52 #navit: < Celelibi> Is there a website showing what satellites I could be able to see in a perfect view?
18:53 #navit: < Celelibi> Like xgps in a perfect world.
18:53 #navit: < Celelibi> Oh nice: https://in-the-sky.org/satmap.php
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19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> Celelibi: i found that using od gives better results than cat.. but the last time i needed this was a while ago
19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> wow nice map
19:00 #navit: < Celelibi> I guess that I should do it with gpsd down.
19:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't have access to my device right now to confirm. maybe someone else can
19:14 #navit: < Celelibi> Well, my antenna has a led that blink when it got a 3D fix.
19:14 #navit: < Celelibi> When going outside, it blink.
19:14 #navit: < Celelibi> (and it's damn cold.)
19:15 #navit: < Celelibi> But I still get nothing on /dev/ttyUSB0 and gpsd shows nothing either.
19:16 #navit: < Celelibi> I'd suspect a bug in the driver pl2303
19:17 #navit: < Celelibi> I'll try to reboot with the antenna plugged in.
19:17 #navit: < Celelibi> If it doesn't work, reboot on the older kernel (if it still work).
19:40 #navit: < Celelibi> Nothing work.
19:40 #navit: < Celelibi> At all !
19:40 #navit: < Celelibi> the antenna blink but I get no data from /dev/ttyUSB0
19:40 #navit: < Celelibi> Even with the kernel that used to work.
19:41 #navit: < tryagain> used to work=had some cat output?
19:42 #navit: < Celelibi> Never tried that before.
19:42 #navit: < tryagain> then test it now how you have tested it before
19:42 #navit: < Celelibi> But connecting on gpsd used to produce some data.
19:43 #navit: < tryagain> and now is gpsd silent too?
19:44 #navit: < Celelibi> Yes.
19:44 #navit: < Celelibi> IIRC it used to say something like "device":"/dev:ttyUSB0" among other things.
19:45 #navit: < tryagain> actually some gps devices have NMEA and propertial modes. Mode can be switched by some command sent to their port. Maybe you have used some software that changed the mode?
19:46 #navit: < Celelibi> Wait, gpsmon shows some stuff periodically.
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19:49 #navit: < Celelibi> Ok, gpsmon can locate me.
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19:54 #navit: < tryagain> are you still unable to cat from your prot after closing gpsmon?
19:55 #navit: < Celelibi> Yeah, cat still return nothing.
19:55 #navit: < Celelibi> It may wait for something.
19:59 #navit: < Celelibi> When I start gpsd by hand, the only error I get is: gpsd:ERROR: unable to connect to the DBUS system bus
20:10 #navit: < Celelibi> Hum... gpsd actually work only if I tell him the path to my gps device.
20:13 #navit: < tryagain> it seems to find something, which looks more like a gps device than your gps device does ;-)
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20:26 #navit: < Celelibi> Ok, probably a problem with udev.
20:26 #navit: < Celelibi> gpsd is supposed to find the device with udev, but it doesn't.
20:27 #navit: < jandegr_> tryagain feel free to comment on #1279
20:32 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr_, will look now. Just posted http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1175#comment:7
20:49 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr_: cool findings!
20:49 #navit: < tryagain> have to go now
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