--- Log opened Sun May 10 00:00:49 2015
01:15 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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08:35 #navit: < gernot_> hello
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08:45 #navit: < gernot_> hi
08:48 #navit: < tryagain> hi gernot_
08:51 #navit: < tryagain> gernot_ map without "decoration" may help to conserve some memory and  might reduce crashing. You may try to start with "Car-Android" map layout, as it uses very few details
08:54 #navit: < tryagain> we have (a pretty old) espeak integrated in navit for wince. On other platforms we use external text-to-speech engines. Tomtom one AFAIK uses some linux clone, so it probably should be possible to compile espeak with direct sound support, not requiring wav play program. But i never seen a TomTom One device.
08:55 #navit: < tryagain> For the first question, another way to reduce memory usage is to decrease tile cache size.
08:59 #navit: < gernot_> hallo again
08:59 #navit: < tryagain> hi again :)
08:59 #navit: < gernot_> I tried car simle, but it helped not much
09:00 #navit: < tryagain> i guess car-android is much more light version
09:00 #navit: < gernot_> first thanks for reply
09:00 #navit: < tryagain> you're welcome
09:01 #navit: < gernot_> Yes its a one xl with only 32M RAM
09:01 #navit: < tryagain> pretty small RAM nowdays...
09:01 #navit: < tryagain> does it have some swapping?
09:02 #navit: < gernot_> Im not sure. /proc/meminfo shows something like 512M flash are used
09:03 #navit: < gernot_> But im not sure it is used.
09:03 #navit: < tryagain> "top" should show you actual swap usage
09:04 #navit: < gernot_> is there a simle way to get a "street only" map?
09:05 #navit: < gernot_> top is not in the image.
09:05 #navit: < tryagain> you may edit layout to filter objects from display, but they would still reside in the map (and cache)
09:05 #navit: < gernot_> i have to buid it
09:06 #navit: < gernot_> yes, i see this with "car simple"
09:06 #navit: < tryagain> can you put your /proc/meminfo to pastebin.com?
09:07 #navit: < gernot_> iits on pastebin
09:10 #navit: < tryagain> please share your link
09:11 #navit: < gernot_> http://pastebin.com/ErLbDaMH
09:12 #navit: < tryagain> btw to play with cache size, you can add cache_size="1000000" or less to <config> tag of navit.xml
09:12 #navit: < tryagain> SwapTotal:           0 kB
09:13 #navit: < gernot_> what is with vmalloc? shold i create a swap partition on sd?
09:14 #navit: < gernot_> Yes i tried with 0 to 1600000 cache. Best routing performance az 5 to 8.
09:15 #navit: < gernot_> fast crash with more then 10M
09:15 #navit: < tryagain> enabling swap on internal device could break the device physically, becuse might not have been built to support that much write operations
09:16 #navit: < gernot_> Thanks, i will try to create a swap tartition on the SD memory card.
09:16 #navit: < gernot_> the i come again
09:16 #navit: < tryagain> good idaa, at least you always could throw the sd card away
09:17 #navit: < gernot_> yes.
09:18 #navit: < gernot_> thanks
09:18 #navit: < gernot_> by
09:18 #navit: < tryagain> see you
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10:48 #navit: < gernot_> hello again
10:50 #navit: < gernot_> I added swapspace to card,  add swapp sopport to kernel, added swapon to busybox.  First tests are ok. nesting furter...
10:50 #navit: < gernot_> by
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12:25 #navit: < zoff99> gernot_: changing the display style will not save u much memory
12:25 #navit: < zoff99> its the length of the route (the distance between position and destination) that dictates the amount of memory needed
12:26 #navit: < zoff99> if you have no other option, cut your trip in half. and plan 2 routes. that will save u much memory
12:26 #navit: < zoff99> if you have an Android phone you can also try ZANavi for Android (its an android port of navit)
12:27 #navit: < tryagain> zoff99 when you'll stop violating GPL?
12:27 #navit: < zoff99> what are you going on about ?
12:27 #navit: < tryagain> publish your source please
12:27 #navit: < zoff99> it is online
12:28 #navit: < tryagain> of the current version?
12:28 #navit: < zoff99> most likely
12:29 #navit: < tryagain> that's not an answer
12:30 #navit: < zoff99> its always so helpful and productive talking to you
12:31 #navit: < tryagain> you're welcome :)
12:31 #navit: < tryagain> so where can i look at the current source?
12:34 #navit: < tryagain> zoff99 Current version of zanavi at appstore is of May, while last code change is of March. Where's the rest?
12:34 #navit: < tryagain> have to go now. Will read logs later.
13:17 #navit: < Navit> sleske * r6089 /trunk/navit/navit/binding/dbus/binding_dbus.c: Fix:binding_dbus:Fix warnings and remove wrong, unused code in GeoJSON export. http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/6089/
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