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04:19 #navit: < munchausen> Hello. I just installed navit on ubuntu, and installed a map and added a mapset setting to the config file, but I dont see anything when I start
04:19 #navit: < munchausen> Also, I tried to use navit-gui-gtk but when I run navit it complains that there is no gui
04:19 #navit: < munchausen> So I installed navit-gui-internal
04:20 #navit: < munchausen> Which does give me a gui of some description, but the map doesnt load
04:22 #navit: < munchausen> Oh wait, there we go, I got something
04:23 #navit: < munchausen> How do I zoom?
04:23 #navit: < munchausen> It's really slow! (I'm on an atom machine)
04:35 #navit: < woglinde> hm?
04:36 #navit: < woglinde> its even fast on an tegra 3
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05:08 #navit: < munchausen> I think tegra 3 probably leaves a 1.86ghz 32 bit atom z540 in the dust
05:09 #navit: < munchausen> does it use opengl? the graphics on here are pretty rubbish
05:55 #navit: < woglinde> no
05:55 #navit: < woglinde> we have it even run smooth on a dualcore atom
05:56 #navit: < woglinde> no we are using the plain framebuffer device
06:30 #navit: < munchausen> maybe there are settings I can change? I will take a look in more detail later. It would be nice as this machine (vaio p series) has GPS and 3G built in
07:24 #navit: < woglinde> what graphic card do you have?
07:34 #navit: < munchausen> It's a gma500
07:35 #navit: < munchausen> I've installed the proprietary driver so it supports 2d and 3d acceleration
07:39 #navit: < woglinde> hm okay
07:39 #navit: < woglinde> that should be fast enough
07:40 #navit: < woglinde> can you run egl_gears2?
07:40 #navit: < woglinde> to be sure 3d is working
07:41 #navit: < woglinde> but navit per default does not use gl stuff
07:47 #navit: < munchausen> (it's a terrible grahpics card, but with the proprietary driver it's ok)
07:48 #navit: < munchausen> one mo i need to reboot for that (im in haiku)
07:53 #navit: < munchausen> Which pakcage can I find egl_gears2 in?
07:53 #navit: < woglinde> mom
07:53 #navit: < woglinde> some mesa
07:53 #navit: < woglinde> what distro do you have?
07:54 #navit: < woglinde> ah the binary name was es2gears
07:54 #navit: < woglinde> in debian/ubuntu its in mesa-utils-extra
07:54 #navit: < munchausen> ubuntu
07:54 #navit: < munchausen> ah ok
07:56 #navit: < munchausen> I get 250 fps ish
07:56 #navit: < woglinde> okay
07:56 #navit: < woglinde> so its working
07:56 #navit: < munchausen> Is the background meant to be transparent
07:56 #navit: < woglinde> hm no it should be black normaly
07:56 #navit: < munchausen> glxgears the background is black
07:56 #navit: < woglinde> hm so glitch in the blob
07:57 #navit: < munchausen> yeah, weird
08:00 #navit: < munchausen> maybe it's an incompatability with the kernel version I'm using
08:00 #navit: < munchausen> The driver isn't supported by ubuntu any more, someone works on making sure the shim still works and publishes a ppa with builds
08:02 #navit: < munchausen> https://github.com/EMGD-Community/intel-binaries-linux
08:02 #navit: < woglinde> yeah I used the driver in some project around 2010
08:03 #navit: < munchausen> Hmm yeah it says on that page "OpenGL ES - works, but unstable (completly provided by EMGD)"
08:03 #navit: < munchausen> So can it use opengl instead?
08:03 #navit: < woglinde> you could try it
08:04 #navit: < woglinde> install the package
08:04 #navit: < woglinde> and edit the navit.xml
08:05 #navit: < munchausen> install which package? I already have the driver and navit installed
08:05 #navit: < munchausen> thanks for your help BTW :)
08:07 #navit: < woglinde> hm okay which modules you have in /usr/lib/navit/graphics/ ?
08:07 #navit: < woglinde> ah okay
08:07 #navit: < woglinde> sorry the gl stuff is not build for ubuntu
08:07 #navit: < woglinde> maintainers choice
08:07 #navit: < munchausen> gtk_drawing_area and null
08:08 #navit: < munchausen> Ah ok. So I should build it
08:08 #navit: < munchausen> And then I could probably get acceptable performance?
08:08 #navit: < munchausen> (there don't seem to be linux binaries in your nightly builds)
08:09 #navit: < woglinde> munchausen or it will crash
08:15 #navit: < munchausen> Sure. But if I build with opengl (which is stable) instead of gles (which is unstable) it should be ok?
08:16 #navit: < woglinde> no?
08:16 #navit: < woglinde> the gma500 can only do gles in hw
08:16 #navit: < woglinde> gl would be software
08:16 #navit: < munchausen> No, it does gl in hardware
08:17 #navit: < woglinde> hm okay
08:17 #navit: < munchausen> I get ~350fps in glxgears, and glxinfo says dri: yes
08:17 #navit: < woglinde> its to long since I used it
08:17 #navit: < munchausen> Don't ask me how, the driver situation is a huge mess, but it works
08:17 #navit: < munchausen> (using the intel driver at least)
08:18 #navit: < munchausen> The open source driver does no acceleration at all. But at least it can configure an external monitor properly!
08:19 #navit: < munchausen> Useless for e.g. watching video though. And the processor is so slow that you really need acceleration to do much with the laptop
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