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02:32 #navit: < xenos1984> good morning
02:33 #navit: < xenos1984> looks like the forum is down
02:33 #navit: < xenos1984> Errno 2: pg_connect(): Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: ERROR:   pgbouncer cannot connect to server at [ROOT]/includes/db/postgres.php  line 108 []
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07:08 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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11:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
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11:44 #navit: < tryagain_> hey KaZeR
11:44 #navit: < tryagain_> im on mobile but seem to have some time right now
11:45 #navit: < tryagain_> xenos1984, i've seen your report, going to fix it as soon as i get home
11:46 #navit: < xenos1984> hi KaZeR, hi tryagain_
11:46 #navit: < xenos1984> tryagain_: thanks!
11:46 #navit: < tryagain_> np
11:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi guys. tryagain_ : cool. my question would be about inter plugins calls, and stuffs like command_table. in short i've created a new plugin type, but i haven't managed to register the callbacks correctly
11:50 #navit: < tryagain_> hm, what are your results and or code snippets?
11:52 #navit: < tryagain_> sorry, i ran out of time now. feel free to post details, i will read logs.
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11:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. i
11:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> 'll commit what i have to a branch
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12:29 #navit: < gernot_> hi
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15:29 #navit: < tryagain> xenos1984 The server is back again
15:30 #navit: < xenos1984> tryagain: great! :)
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16:41 #navit: < tryagain> Navit, jump
16:41 #navit: < Navit> How high?
16:41 #navit: < tryagain> Navit, compile
16:41 #navit: < Navit> Starting compiler
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17:37 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-12104.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-12104.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-12104.failed
17:37 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
17:43 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR have you pushed your changes to github?
17:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> not yet i was offline. i can push what i have now if you want.
17:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you have some time to look into it now ?
17:44 #navit: < tryagain> let's try it again :)
17:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> :D
17:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> ah crap the code is not on my usual dev box, it's on the other one..
17:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> in short : i created a new plugin type "audio", "inspired" by the code from the speech plugin. the point is to define audio output plugins ( alsa ) and audio player plugins ( spotify )
17:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> so far so good. i can even read the settings from the xml config file for the credentials.
17:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> now the issue i'm facing is that i need to expose some methods from this new plugins, like "volume_up()". using a command_table seems to be the way to go, but i did not find yet how to register my callbacks.
17:48 #navit: < tryagain> do you have some <audio> tag under <navit><config>?
17:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> also, when using this kind of callbacks, is using command_evaluate() the only way to call them ? or can we use some kind of function pointers ?
17:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes, now i have them
17:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> i defined audio just as you would define a speech setup for now
17:49 #navit: < tryagain> i see...
17:50 #navit: < tryagain> probably we do not have support for calling c function pointers directly, only with callback
17:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> ideally, volume_up should be a callback from audio.c (as in speech.c ) and then it will call the correct method from the right output plugin ( example output-alsa.volume_up() )
17:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. the callback part is not the most blocking one right now. i'm currently stuck at registering functions that we can call using command_evaluate()
17:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> how long are you going to be online ?
17:53 #navit: < tryagain> do not have any idea for how long...
17:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. i need ~15 minutes to be able to access the other box. so let's switch to another topic where i need your insights meanwhile :)
17:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://circle-artifacts.com/gh/jandegr/routing-qa/24/artifacts/0/tmp/circle-artifacts.i5Kh09X/Midpines_broken_route.yamlmetric.png
17:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> if we don't move street4 to another layer, this route is unresolvable
17:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> (i'm looking for the ticket)
17:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1296
17:55 #navit: < tryagain> it should be resolvable with route_depth tuning?
17:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> i was re-reading your answer
17:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm not sure how to tune that, but i understand your point. can you please share an example of such tuning ?
17:57 #navit: < tryagain> simplest way would be change current vehicle profile in internal gui settings
17:58 #navit: < tryagain> try car_pedantic instead of car
17:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok i'll do the test in QA. if indeed it works then there's no point changing the maps. what would be the drawback of using this one? longer routing calculation, more cpu usage ?
17:59 #navit: < tryagain> actually, route_depth parameter of vehicle profile makes the difference. Changing to pedantic would require lots of memory (up to crash).
18:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm going afk 10 minutes then i'll have access to the other box, in case you are still around. brb
18:01 #navit: < tryagain> ok
18:03 #navit: < tryagain> unfortunately, theres no simple way in osm to know road importance. Tagging practices change from country to country and in time.
18:04 #navit: < tryagain> And we can't just switch to car_pedantic, as it would fail for longer routes.
18:06 #navit: < tryagain> We may do some importance precalculation on maptool time. But importance could actually depend on vehicle profile. For example, highways are important for cars and trucks but make almost no sense for bicycles.
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18:09 #navit: < tryagain> To pull important roads to top tiles, we may use some additional osm info, for example, relations describing E-road network in Europe.
18:15 #navit: < tryagain> Regarding audio plugin interface...
18:16 #navit: < tryagain> There should be a new api described in a file like speech.c
18:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep i've started audio.c. going offline for 2 minutes and then pushing the code. brbr
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18:18 #navit: < tryagain> this api will include an analog of struct speech_methods, which are filled by audio plugin
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18:18 #navit: < tryagain> also, audio.c will include some functions exported for the whole navit code
18:19 #navit: < tryagain> when such a function is called, it will call one of audio_methods member
18:20 #navit: < tryagain> example is speech_say
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18:21 #navit: < KaZeR_> back
18:22 #navit: < tryagain> command interface for speech_say is actually defined in navit.c (navit_cmd_say)
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18:25 #navit: < KaZeR_> here's the branch : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit/tree/audio_framework
18:27 #navit: < tryagain> so you have to export audio_play from your audio.c . It should call audio_play method
18:28 #navit: < tryagain> and then add the command play_audio to navit command interface, so you'll be able to call navit.play_audio from the script
18:28 #navit: < KaZeR_> so add the command in navit.c
18:28 #navit: < KaZeR_> using a IFDEF
18:29 #navit: < tryagain> ifdef?
18:29 #navit: < tryagain> why?
18:29 #navit: < KaZeR_> like, #ifdef use_audio ?
18:29 #navit: < KaZeR_> oh well actually we don't need it. if there's no audio plugin active, nothing will happen
18:29 #navit: < KaZeR_> you are right :)
18:29 #navit: < tryagain> sure
18:30 #navit: < KaZeR_> ok. i was hoping to be able to put everything under an "audio namespace" instead of navit but i can at least try that
18:30 #navit: < KaZeR_> thanks a lot
18:30 #navit: < tryagain> but things may become more complex if you expect to have more than one audio plugin active at a time..
18:31 #navit: < KaZeR_> i think that we don't need more than one audio output plugin active at a time. but we might want more than one audio player plugin active at a time
18:31 #navit: < KaZeR_> (eg. : spotify + radio )
18:32 #navit: < KaZeR_> well. by active i mean usable, but i realized that you probably meant in use
18:32 #navit: < KaZeR_> so no it should be fine : if you switch from spotify to radio, we just need to toggle the active player, like we toggle the active vehicle
18:33 #navit: < KaZeR_> i have to go afk for ~1h but thanks a lot, it helps. i was being stubborn trying to add the commands from the plugin itself
18:33 #navit: < robertp> so KaZeR you mean (spotify (x)or radio (x)or mpd) and speech from navit
18:34 #navit: < KaZeR_> robertp: yes. by tomorrow we might be able to start adding your mpd player in a proper fashion
18:35 #navit: < KaZeR_> speech is relatively independant from what i am doing right now : it's often an external call
18:35 #navit: < robertp> not yet im currently stuck in my vm's and time management
18:36 #navit: < KaZeR_> i meant that it should be easier to add your own plugin once this audio framework is ready :)
18:36 #navit: < tryagain> for the way to export from the plugin itself, refer to inernal gui: gui_internal_command.c
18:36 #navit: < KaZeR_> let me know if i can help for your vm issue. not sure i can help about time management :D
18:37 #navit: < robertp> NO! DONT KILL MY FAMILY :D
18:37 #navit: < KaZeR_> tryagain: yeah that's how i was doing it currently : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit/blob/audio_framework/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal_command.c#L1215-L1222
18:38 #navit: < KaZeR_> but it brings some nonsense, like having to call gui.volume_down() from the osd that calls another method in the audio part. sound management should be gui independant
18:38 #navit: < tryagain> :D you should have copied  gui_internal_command_init to your plugin code
18:38 #navit: < KaZeR_> i did. did not work :)
18:39 #navit: < KaZeR_> the arguments to the init are different currently. might be a mistake on my side
18:39 #navit: < KaZeR_> if we can fix that, it would actually be perfect. all the audio related code would be outside of navit.c
18:40 #navit: < KaZeR_> and the methods would be exposed as audio.volume_up()
18:40 #navit: < tryagain> but that means only command interface will be available
18:40 #navit: < KaZeR_> is this an issue ?
18:40 #navit: < tryagain> no way to call a simple c function
18:41 #navit: < KaZeR_> ha
18:41 #navit: < KaZeR_> mmm.
18:41 #navit: < tryagain> and you'll have to pass attributes
18:41 #navit: < KaZeR_> so what do you recommend then ?
18:42 #navit: < tryagain> audio.c and define commands in navit.c
18:42 #navit: < KaZeR_> ok will do that. thanks a lot
18:43 #navit: < tryagain> we actually have no generic interface for gui so we have each gui defining its own api
18:43 #navit: < tryagain> for audio, we probably would be able to create generic api with less amount of functions
18:45 #navit: < tryagain> ok, it's time for me to go....
18:45 #navit: < tryagain> see you
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18:46 #navit: < KaZeR_> afk for ~1 hour too
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21:14 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-12104.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-12104.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-12104.failed
21:14 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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