--- Log opened Fri Apr 01 00:00:03 2016 01:58 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:8445:49e1:a92b:bb85] has joined #navit 02:33 #navit: < Marc0> hello, good morning 02:49 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 03:18 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-tujhrpvxetrsocil] has joined #navit 03:59 -!- tim0123 [~kvirc@dslb-178-012-150-207.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #navit 04:09 #navit: < tim0123> Hello! Is it possible to use spawn() for menu items, not OSD buttons? And is there a possibility to do something like 'spawn(position_coord_geo)' to pass the actual position to the process? 04:33 -!- jonathanmaw [~jonathanm@82-70-136-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #navit 04:44 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:00 -!- alex__32e3232 [~alexhell0@178.70.78.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:05 -!- alex__32e3232 [~alexhell0@178.70.78.17] has joined #navit 06:21 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #navit 09:44 #navit: < Marc0> bb, have a nice weekend 10:30 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:8445:49e1:a92b:bb85] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:52 -!- jandegr [5bb63729@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.182.55.41] has joined #navit 11:02 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@118-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 11:47 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:59 -!- juse [~juse@fow4.kyla.fi] has joined #navit 12:29 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-tujhrpvxetrsocil] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:43 -!- alex_123984 [~alexhell0@178.70.99.96] has joined #navit 12:46 -!- alex__32e3232 [~alexhell0@178.70.78.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:53 -!- jonathanmaw [~jonathanm@82-70-136-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:43 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 15:00 -!- tim0123 [~kvirc@dslb-178-012-150-207.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:07 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:38 -!- jandegr [5bb63729@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.182.55.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:01 #navit: < KaZeR> hi there 16:07 -!- alexhell0xbf [~alexhell1@178.70.99.96] has joined #navit 16:25 #navit: < KaZeR> ey alexhell0xbf 16:30 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> hi KaZeR 16:30 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> networking for navit ... there are few ideas came to me, but still can't manage a time to write it ;( 16:31 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 1. simple - maps 16:31 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 2. something like waze 16:31 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> since google bought waze i don't use , but it was a cool stuff 16:32 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> and to share location and other info you need a trusted services i.e. smth will check your authority and app (i.e. navit) will check server to be a right one :) 16:33 #navit: < KaZeR> yep agreed on all points ! 16:33 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> btw, i ready to discuss it and firstly implement the server side 16:33 #navit: < KaZeR> cool. how can i help? 16:34 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> using my other oss project (guess i told about it before) 16:34 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> well, we need a plan 16:34 #navit: < KaZeR> yep remember that 16:34 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> i mean what we will do first , the next and so on, 16:35 #navit: < KaZeR> are you asking from a priority point of view? 16:36 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> yes, and keep in mind - i will not able to do everything :) server side is ok , but navit ... mostly gui isn't looks really to implement myself 16:38 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> from my point of view, the plan looks like ... 1. implement trusted map service, integrate it to navit, add GUI and other stuff to download this maps and updates 16:39 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 2. implement user storage with all attributes, provide location service, integrate it to gui .. 16:39 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 3. traffic services ...... 16:41 #navit: < KaZeR> yep there's quite some work required here. but we can do it. in my opinion, a generic map downloader would have a higher priority currently. would you like to help on this ? 16:41 #navit: < KaZeR> (it's totally up to you, no pressure) 16:41 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> and a few other ideas - keep notes, track points, events on this service (we also can have apps for this outside of navit also). 16:42 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> yes, i can help with that, but i propose to use my oss project because it will be a simple way to provide secure way to deal with any data io. 16:42 #navit: < KaZeR> that's great cause i don't like reinventing the wheel :) 16:43 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> i can implement map server , and some API for navit to list maps, versions, and to download it, but GUI and other misc works will require somebody else ;) 16:43 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> yeah , im too 16:43 #navit: < KaZeR> that's a deal :) 16:44 #navit: < KaZeR> i wrote a mapserver stub last week. it's really a poc, works well with small maps but i have performances issues when the downloaded file gets bigger than 1GiB 16:45 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> take a look on libsxmp :) i've added so-called streams and generally this lib designed to serve many requests from many connections. 16:48 #navit: < KaZeR> cool, i will have a look thanks 16:48 #navit: < KaZeR> is there anything i can do to help you get started ? 16:48 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> btw, it's a time to design an RPC interface for map server (it will be more than map server in future) and this is the first thing i need help 16:49 #navit: < KaZeR> tell me more 16:49 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> because it should be useable not from my point of view :) 16:49 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> well 16:50 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> sxmp already implement secure connection (TLS v1.2 used) , it also implement channels, messages and streams above it, all you need is develop RPC functions for your desired channels and provide streams. 16:51 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> for client side - u need to call RPC or open stream with options to get a large file for example 16:52 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> RPC might be used to check version, to do something and so on, also i guess we will need another app to manage map server remotely - it will also require RPC 16:53 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> for map server there are not so many things required, but it isn't true for the future plans. 16:56 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah, ike the ability to query remote api endpoints. we don't care much about SSL/TLS for the mapdownloading, but online search needs it 16:56 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> yes 16:57 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> for downloading yes, but anyway it's better to know the place where the maps is located :) (a little bit of paranoia) 16:59 #navit: < KaZeR> not that's true 16:59 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> users also can upload custom maps and share it - what are u think about it ? 16:59 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm not sure about the usefulness of this one yet. do you have an example in mind ? 17:00 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-144-133-237.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 17:00 #navit: < circleci-bot> Failed: pgrandin's build (#982; push) in navit-gps/navit (i18n/fr) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/982 17:00 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-144-133-237.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:00 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> specific areas, additional infos on the map ... 17:00 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> btw, more useful is to share tracks, points, events and traffic infos 17:03 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> well, i can host it as well. for now i propose a few steps for start 17:09 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 1. map server logic itself + simple client for it - just as a proof of concept 17:09 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 2. server side generation of maps + navit integration 17:09 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> what do you think about it ? 17:10 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> ah, some wiki about rpcs https://sourceforge.net/p/libsxmp/wiki/Filelist%20example%20explained/ 17:14 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> if this ok - im strating right now :) 17:14 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> starting 17:15 #navit: < KaZeR> yep i love this plan 17:16 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> did you read wiki ? is it looks simple ? 17:17 #navit: < KaZeR> i had a look. it'll need a second read and probably some code writing to wrap my head around it :) 17:18 #navit: < KaZeR> it does seem quite simple 17:20 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> yes, u may use maillist to ask some questions. and for now i will take a paper to design a map server, some code will be soon :) 17:20 #navit: < KaZeR> awesome! 17:29 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> ok, will let u know on progress 17:37 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-162-179-127.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 17:37 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#983; push) in navit-gps/navit (i18n/pl) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/983 17:37 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-162-179-127.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:39 #navit: < KaZeR> thanks alexhell0xbf ! 17:54 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-162-55-91.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 17:54 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#984; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/984 17:54 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-162-55-91.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:09 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-221-21-64.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 18:09 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#985; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/985 18:09 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-221-21-64.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:37 -!- juse [~juse@fow4.kyla.fi] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:09 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@118-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:19 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> KaZeR map versions might be changed to generation date - what do you think ? 19:20 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> looks like i've finished a paper side part of first step :) 19:24 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> i will try to provide a simple showcase very soon, i will install daemon on the host u may connect, and provide a tarball with instructions how to connect and build client tool 19:25 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> 1st showcase will be a simple map directory listing/management 19:25 #navit: < alexhell0xbf> i.e. for application only listing for admins management also --- Log closed Sat Apr 02 00:00:05 2016