--- Log opened Mon Jul 25 00:00:56 2016 01:39 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 03:12 -!- jjelen_ [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ujfoevvdszmcdtgp] has joined #navit 03:26 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 06:50 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:24 -!- carlos_ [4f1616f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.22.22.245] has joined #navit 10:25 #navit: < carlos_> hello boys 10:25 #navit: < carlos_> help me? 10:29 #navit: < carlos_> hello 10:40 -!- carlos_ [4f1616f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.22.22.245] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:41 -!- carlos [4f1616f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.22.22.245] has joined #navit 11:00 #navit: < carlos> hello 11:01 #navit: < carlos> how can I get a signal in the DBUS when the user goes off course ? 12:00 -!- carlos [4f1616f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.22.22.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:03 -!- jjelen_ [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ujfoevvdszmcdtgp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:16 #navit: < KaZeR> hi there 13:19 -!- robertp [584bd4db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.75.212.219] has joined #navit 13:19 #navit: < robertp> HI 13:22 #navit: < KaZeR> hi robertp 13:31 #navit: < robertp> kazer, I failed in getting the qt5 stub to get compiled by circleci 13:31 #navit: < robertp> which ubuntu version is installed there? 13:34 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm i think that this is Trusty by default. You can ssh to a container and run cat /etc/lsb-release to verify 13:35 #navit: < robertp> The reason is i'd want to have the tests passed before starting the "real" work 13:40 #navit: < KaZeR> oh no that makes total sense. i'll have a look at making sure that the qt tests are passing then. 13:41 #navit: < robertp> that would be cool. thanks 13:42 -!- robertp [584bd4db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.75.212.219] has quit [Quit: bye] 14:58 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD4711F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 15:41 #navit: < KaZeR> trac is back 15:41 #navit: < KaZeR> hi sleske 16:02 #navit: < sleske> KaZeR: Hi! 16:02 #navit: < sleske> For me, http://trac.navit-project.org/ is still down. 16:09 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm, odd sleske. what error are you getting? connection failed? 16:12 #navit: < sleske> Now it's working. Good job :-). 16:12 #navit: < KaZeR> ha thanks :) 16:13 #navit: < sleske> What was the problem? Disk crash? 16:13 #navit: < KaZeR> server was attacked and used in a DNS amplification attack. The hosting company shut it down 16:13 #navit: < KaZeR> brb lunch 16:13 #navit: < sleske> Ouch. 16:14 #navit: < sleske> Lunch? Aren't you in Europe? 16:14 #navit: < KaZeR> i used to be in France indeed 16:15 #navit: < KaZeR> i moved to the US, west coast some time ago 16:15 #navit: < KaZeR> so it's 1pm for me now 16:16 #navit: < KaZeR> should be back quickly. I'd be happy to catch up with you! 16:53 #navit: < sleske> Now that trac is back, maybe we can finally finish up the user name corrections... 17:03 #navit: < sleske> KaZeR: Still at lunch? 17:23 #navit: < KaZeR> sleske: back 17:32 #navit: < sleske> Ah, hi! Did you enjoy your meal? 17:33 #navit: < sleske> Do you mind if we finish up the annoying user name corrections? Trac #1140. 17:33 #navit: < sleske> I have some more (hopefully final) SQL prepared... 17:40 #navit: < KaZeR> sure yeah let's do it 17:40 #navit: < KaZeR> let me catch up on the ticket... 17:40 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm okay so it looks like i just need an sql from you 17:57 #navit: < sleske> Lemme email you something... 17:59 #navit: < sleske> Done. 18:03 #navit: < sleske> KaZeR: One more thing. I don't mean to be picky, but currently there is no way to log into trac. Does the openid plugin need to be installed/enabled? 18:09 #navit: < KaZeR> you're definitely being picky. If people can log in into trac, then they will create tickets. Do we really want that? :o) 18:10 #navit: < KaZeR> the plugin is enabled, because trac was restored from a backup. let me check if the plugin is correclty installed 18:11 #navit: < sleske> KaZeR: Or worse, they might fix bugs and close tickets. Soon we'll be out of work... 18:12 #navit: < KaZeR> hahaha indeed 18:12 #navit: < KaZeR> i applied your sql. No errors reported. I'm looking into the authentication issue 18:14 #navit: < sleske> The SQL should re-add some missing email addresses. There will still be many accounts w/o an email address, and if a notification is triggered for them, there will still be a message in the log ("Email address w/o domain"). This will only go away if people set an email address in their preferences... trac is weird like that. 18:19 #navit: < sleske> Bingo! Login works. Thanks! 18:19 #navit: < KaZeR> :) 18:21 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm still getting a notification error. I'll have to look in the user table to find the users without email, and see if we can set one from their wiki account 18:22 #navit: < sleske> Hm. Maybe they did not set their address on purpose? I think the notifications are really a trac bug (the message is wrong, at any rate). Frankly, I'd ignore them. But you're the admin :-). 18:23 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah we can ignore them maybe. But if you don't know about the context, you could guess that no notification at all has been sent, which would be really annoying 18:24 #navit: < sleske> At any rate: Applause for finally fixing usernames. Coincidentally, the bug just turned three years old. It's now old enough to go to daycare :-). 18:25 #navit: < KaZeR> haha. well all kudos goes to you, i merely applied your scripts. So thanks for not giving up on that :) 18:27 #navit: < sleske> Ok, it was a joint effort. Btw, is there any chance for me to get some kind of server access to trac? That would greatly simplify that kind of maintenance in the future. 18:27 #navit: < sleske> ATM only you have access (and cp15, who is quite busy). Is that correct? 18:27 #navit: < KaZeR> so, we have two servers. Most of the services are hosted on cp15 18:28 #navit: < KaZeR> 's server. Several folks have access ( myself, tryagain for example ) 18:28 #navit: < KaZeR> i cannot grant access to new users (i technically can as I have root there, but it's not my server) 18:28 #navit: < KaZeR> trac is hosted on my own server. I have other non navit-related projects hosted there too. 18:29 #navit: < KaZeR> we are in the process of documenting and moving some services away from cp15's server (because we haven't heard from him for quite some time) 18:30 #navit: < KaZeR> i will soon move trac to a virtual machine on my server, it will make administration easier 18:30 #navit: < KaZeR> we also have the code that signs the apk on my server for google playstore 18:33 #navit: < sleske> Ah, I see, work is ongoing. 18:34 #navit: < sleske> I'd really like to help with trac admin work, so I'd appreciate if it were possible to separate responsibilities a bit. The VM route seems like a good idea. 18:34 #navit: < sleske> Of course, the old-fashioned solution would be separate user accounts, but that can be tricky to get right. 18:34 #navit: < sleske> Just tell me if I can help. For now, trac is back to running smoothly. 18:35 #navit: < KaZeR> thanks :) i'll setup the vm soon. If you give me your public ssh key i'll grant you access directly 18:36 #navit: < KaZeR> talking about ongoing work, there's two hot topics currently : the iphone port and qt5. Just ask if you want details 18:41 #navit: < sleske> Well, I don't have an IPhone (nor a Mac, nor a lot of love for Apple), so that one's out for me. 18:42 #navit: < sleske> Qt5 sounds interesting. However, what is the purpose? Will it replace the "Internal GUI"? 18:44 #navit: < KaZeR> well there is some limitations to internal gui that kind of bring a technical debt. The idea behind it is awesome because we get the same UI on many devices 18:44 #navit: < KaZeR> qt5 is actually two things : an update of the qt_qpainter graphics driver, and a new gui that we intend to design from scratch 18:45 #navit: < KaZeR> as examples of the technical debt : no background menu image, no inline list refreshing 18:46 #navit: < KaZeR> the idea is more to provide an alternative, better looking UI, which would also be easier to maintain. Writing QML2 is definitely easier than adding code for gui internal 18:46 #navit: < KaZeR> if you are interested, help is definitely appreciated :) 18:49 #navit: < sleske> Hm, while Qt5 sounds good, it does feel a bit like reinventing the wheel. IMHO, Navit has many problems, but the Internal GUI is not one of them. 18:50 #navit: < sleske> Anyway, if it works, I won't object :-). I think I'll try tackling some bugfixes - we have many rather embarassing bugs. I'll probably start with the "icon flood" that fills the screen. 18:51 #navit: < sleske> We also really, really need better labeling of roads, and better icon placement (particularly, suppression of icons that overlap). I could go on... 18:51 #navit: < KaZeR> oh i wasn't saying that this was the biggest issue :) 18:51 #navit: < sleske> Well, you did say "hot topic" :-). 18:51 #navit: < sleske> Anyway, the nice thing is there's enough work for everyone... 18:51 #navit: < KaZeR> hot, as in being discussed and/or worked on in the last weeks 18:52 #navit: < KaZeR> haha definitely 18:52 #navit: < sleske> To conclude the username thing: We should now ceremoniously close #1140. Should I do it, or do you want the honor? 18:56 #navit: < KaZeR> please, do it. It's really your work 19:00 #navit: < KaZeR> i meant, "you are the one that did it", not "hey, this is your shit, deal with it" :) 19:05 #navit: < KaZeR> if you have some time to spare on administration, there's something else that we could do. Currently we have a very annoying registration process on the wiki, to try to fight spam. 19:05 #navit: < KaZeR> maybe we should try to see if there's a better way to do it than the current registration form, that needs a manual review afterwards. it's a pain in the ass for everybody, users and admins 19:06 #navit: < sleske> Tada. 19:07 #navit: < sleske> Hm... a better Captcha? 19:09 #navit: < KaZeR> yes, that's indeed a very good option. Looks like google now provides one based upon some browsing habits, where you basically need to click one check box most of the time 19:14 #navit: < sleske> Yes, that's "reCaptcha". The checkbox with the moving circle. 19:15 #navit: < sleske> I could try looking after that. Of course, I'd need to be / have access to a wiki admin :-). 19:15 #navit: < KaZeR> that's a deal 19:18 #navit: < sleske> Ok, gotta sleep now. It's late here. See you soon! 19:22 #navit: < KaZeR> see you soon! 19:32 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD4711F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:55 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Tue Jul 26 00:00:57 2016