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01:44 #navit: < jkoan> pmckinley: please read also the logs on http://irclogs.navit.ie/ (the days since your first message) there gernot and I tried to figure out how shapefile works
01:54 #navit: < jkoan> Also shapefile was written by the github users: sleske, risky, martinis and horwitz. Probably one of them could say how shapefile format works and could give us a test file and probably a config example.
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07:29 #navit: < pmckinley> hi jkoan yes i already read it
07:31 #navit: < pmckinley> its super easy to get test files from Geofabrik
07:31 #navit: < pmckinley> as i described
07:31 #navit: < pmckinley> 3.1MB for the Isle of Man
07:33 #navit: < pmckinley> http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/isle-of-man.html
07:33 #navit: < pmckinley> click on this, it's right there
07:34 #navit: < pmckinley> actually its 3.3MB sorry:
07:34 #navit: < pmckinley> :)
07:36 #navit: < pmckinley> I have sent Horwitz a message, hopefully I'll get an answer
07:37 #navit: < pmckinley> jkoan: thank for the information
07:38 #navit: < pmckinley> I can't type today, like at all
07:49 #navit: < jkoan> but we also said that that the shapefiles from geofabrik probably are not the same as the shapefiles navit ones. So probably it won't be possible wright now. But I dont know right not if navit really wants other shapefiles
07:50 #navit: < jkoan> but the question is why you defently need shapefiles instet out lower file size bin files
08:03 #navit: < pmckinley> Let me check, I dont remember you saying that
08:05 #navit: < pmckinley> I don't see it
08:05 #navit: < pmckinley> So isnt Shapefile a standard then?
08:05 #navit: < pmckinley> thats worrying
08:06 #navit: < pmckinley> Navit and Geofabrik both get their maps from OSM, I'm not sure why they would be different. I cannot think of a source that could be closer
08:08 #navit: < pmckinley> My wish has nothing to do with file size at all. I receive Shapefiles from another maker
08:09 #navit: < pmckinley> But I am happy to test Navit with Shapefiles from Geofabrik to see if it works, so no-one can say "peter obviously your map is rubbish"
08:11 #navit: < pmckinley> Sadly, it is not documented how to do it, only hinted that it's possible. It may NOT be possible, but it would be nice to know one way or the other
08:19 #navit: < jkoan> right now i cant defently say if it is working or not. i need to do more reserch on it. But i also have verry limeted time
08:22 #navit: < jkoan> also: 14:31 at http://irclogs.navit.ie/%23navit-2017-02-06.log -->
08:22 #navit: < jkoan> 14:31 #navit: < gernot_> I get such "xyz.dbfmap not found" messages on the console if i load shapefile "xyz"
08:22 #navit: < jkoan> probably my pastebin is the problem... but i currently dont know
08:23 #navit: < pmckinley> jkoan: Sorry I made a mistake, the Isle of Man IS only 3.1MB as a zipped Shapefile from Geofabrik (not 3.3MB). Are you able to debug why Navit won't launch after configuring similar to
08:24 #navit: < pmckinley> and also
08:24 #navit: < pmckinley> ahh ok
08:25 #navit: < jkoan> maybe... but i am not at home, currently i am at work
08:25 #navit: < pmckinley> :) by the way I really appreciate your willingness to help.
08:27 #navit: < pmckinley> I wonder if I should just change the extension from .shp to .dbfmap
08:29 #navit: < pmckinley> No luck, Navit wont launch. Binfile is ok
08:35 #navit: < jkoan> no, not only change the extension. Probably this is another file format. But as i said, we currently dont know
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13:26 #navit: < kazer> hi there
13:28 #navit: < kazer> pmckinley: can you enable mode debug in your config?
13:28 #navit: < kazer> are you familiar with gdb?
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13:52 #navit: < kazer> mmm my logs don't show a lot of activity on the shp driver since 2008
13:56 #navit: < kazer> for me it crashes at #4 DBFGetFieldCount (psDBF=0x0) at /home/pierre/dev/navit/navit/support/shapefile/dbfopen.c:1134
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14:29 #navit: < jkoan> Hi Kazer
14:30 #navit: < jkoan> Right now I'm not familiar with gdb but probably I should
14:30 #navit: < jkoan> *I should lern about it
14:35 #navit: < kazer> yeah, you can do some really deep inspection with gdb, but often just knowing about 'bt' (backtrace) is enough for us to find where shit breaks
14:37 #navit: < kazer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PorfLSr3DDI is quite nice, shows some of the cool things you can do with gdb
14:43 #navit: < jkoan> But do you know anything new about the shapefiles? :D
14:43 #navit: < jkoan> Im looking the video right now
14:44 #navit: < kazer> i had a quick look but i'll have to dig more for the shapefiles. there has to be a way to get them to work, but maybe we would have to fix a few things
14:44 #navit: < kazer> most of the focus has been on OSM maps for the last years
14:49 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, I personally think this is very good :)
14:51 #navit: < kazer> :)
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18:48 #navit: < pmckinley> kazer: no I dont know how to access debug mode
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21:24 #navit: < circleci-bot> Failed: metalstrolch's build (#1620; ssh by pgrandin) in navit-gps/navit (qt5_metalstrolch) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1620?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=irc
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22:01 #navit: < circleci-bot> Canceled: metalstrolch's build (#1621; ssh by pgrandin) in navit-gps/navit (qt5_metalstrolch) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1621?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=irc
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22:15 #navit: < circleci-bot> Failed: metalstrolch's build (#1622; retry by pgrandin) in navit-gps/navit (qt5_metalstrolch) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1622?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=irc
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