--- Log opened Sat Sep 30 00:00:04 2017
00:39 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n
00:39 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed
00:39 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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06:04 #navit: < jkoan> hi all together :D
06:04 #navit: < youte> hi
06:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey jkoan
06:06 #navit: < jkoan> thats a bit strage i thought i alone for the next hours ^^
06:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm signing off soon :)
06:06 #navit: < jkoan> :O
06:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> exploring some tools to enable us to collaboratively work on UI ideas : https://github.com/navit-gps/ui-mockups
06:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> feedback welcome.. tool suggestion welcome too!
06:09 #navit: < jkoan> draw.io :) i love it
06:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> for diagrams i really like it too. For ui so far it isn't great :) maybe it just take practice!
06:11 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: qml bug: if i run navit with non-root user and go to address lookup i get SIGSEGV
06:11 #navit: < jkoan> Thread 1 "navit" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
06:11 #navit: < jkoan> strlen () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/strlen.S:106
06:11 #navit: < jkoan> 106	../sysdeps/x86_64/strlen.S: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.
06:12 #navit: < jkoan> with root its not failing
06:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> interesting. is your locale different?
06:15 #navit: < jkoan> dont think so https://pastebin.com/jKghYs6C
06:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's odd. do you have a bigger gdb stack trace?
06:18 #navit: < jkoan> how i get one?
06:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> is gdb installed on your machine? it should be automatic
06:22 #navit: < jkoan> well wait, need to fix it
06:25 #navit: < jkoan> https://pastebin.com/HeusyCdn
06:33 #navit: < jkoan> Probably a null check in get country?
06:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> interesting because the country is currently hardcoded : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/gui/qt5_qml/backend.cpp#L338
06:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll give it a try tomorrow
06:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you enable debugging? i'd like to see this output : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/gui/qt5_qml/backend.cpp#L437
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16:11 #navit: < youte> hi
16:12 #navit: < youte> see that : https://github.com/navit-gps/ui-mockups
16:37 #navit: < jkoan> good idea :)
16:38 #navit: < jkoan> do you also have something for the first time startup?
16:38 #navit: < jkoan> oh btw: hi youte :X
16:40 #navit: < youte> i'm not sur to understand your question
16:41 #navit: < jkoan> what shout heppen if a new user downloads navit and starts the app. we need an introduction to get the permissions, download map and so on.
16:42 #navit: < youte> no, i don't work in the subject
16:43 #navit: < youte> do you want i start by this?
16:43 #navit: < jkoan> yes, i currently working on this part
16:44 #navit: < youte> ok not pb, i work asap
16:44 #navit: < jkoan> also do navit has a color table? default colores which should be used?
16:47 #navit: < youte> for the landscape, i dont use aspecific color
16:47 #navit: < youte> just make global skin
16:48 #navit: < youte> do you want make a color table for navit now?
16:49 #navit: < jkoan> no i dont, but it navit would have one i would use this colores
16:51 #navit: < jkoan> it is defently not related to functionality but would it be a good idea to ask the user for favorite colore? This would build a user relationship right?
16:52 #navit: < youte> in begin you want to ask the user, the choise of color?
16:52 #navit: < jkoan> not really, it was only a question if this is a good idea in general (not related to navit)
16:54 #navit: < youte> it's a good idea
17:07 #navit: < jkoan> youte: could you take a look at the new file and give feedback?
17:17 #navit: < youte> untitle diagram?
17:17 #navit: < youte> ok i eat and come back
17:17 #navit: < jkoan> ups, yes
17:37 #navit: < youte> in android, a pop up of playstore asks the autorisation
17:37 #navit: < jkoan> no
17:37 #navit: < jkoan> not in new version
17:38 #navit: < jkoan> and for that we must ask
17:38 #navit: < youte> ok cool
17:39 #navit: < youte> with the example, what do you want to do?
17:39 #navit: < jkoan> also ask for location and later (screen 3) map to download woud be user friendly, right?
17:39 #navit: < jkoan> with the mockup?
17:41 #navit: < youte> ok
17:41 #navit: < youte> i make this tonight :D
17:41 #navit: < youte> when my child sleep :D
17:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
17:43 #navit: < jkoan> hi KaZeR
17:43 #navit: < youte> hi kazer
17:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> 'sup guys?
17:44 #navit: < jkoan> thinking about how the new first time startup should look like (see mockups)
17:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> nice, i like where this is going
17:46 #navit: < youte> dont modified i work in
17:47 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: we need to speed up development ;) and also as important part UX
17:47 #navit: < youte> :D
17:48 #navit: < jkoan> also i thought about haveing an mapdriver for internet (something like on demand loading)
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18:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: agreed about speeding up.. i'll try to push more updates to qt5
18:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should also build a release list for 0.5.2
18:00 #navit: < jkoan> What about the milestone tickets?
18:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's what i was talking about :)
18:01 #navit: < jkoan> Today I closed two
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18:02 #navit: < jkoan> And I finally have an idea why the settings on android always reset after restart of the app
18:03 #navit: < jkoan> Probably navit loads the Navit.xml from the android file system from a place which is read only. So the config will reset after next start
18:07 #navit: < jkoan> Some settings for example the gui internal configuration is stored at a different place which is writable, so it looks like that only some configs are saved
18:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah we need to make this part better. Ideally we should be able to save all user-customized settings in a different file that we would overlay on top of the default config
18:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> and have all these settings editable via navit itself instead of the xml file. This is one of the goal for QT5/QML2
18:08 #navit: < jkoan> I will also look into it from the android perspective
18:09 #navit: < jkoan> Qt5/qml2 for 0.6 release?
18:09 #navit: < jkoan> This would speed up the 0.5.2 extremely
18:11 #navit: < jkoan> Also Kazer could you say me the number of active installations on android? ^^ it's only for interest
18:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: yeah qml2 will be for 0.6 as it's a major change
18:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> we're still loosing in user retention on Android. 670 installs in the last 30 days, but 799 uninstalls
18:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> currently we have 4935 active installs
18:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=640&p=1626#p1626 : someone wants to try to answer this one? otherwise i can do it. He's right, it's base on vehicle profiles
18:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: if you give me your email address i can grant you access to some of the playstore features
18:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> got it, invite sent
18:29 #navit: < jkoan> Nice (y)
18:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> back to the qml2 topic, where you testing using the master branch or the qt5_qml_gui branch ?
18:32 #navit: < jkoan> The short test from today's morning was on trunk
18:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. can you please try using the branch?
18:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/commit/ad98712d8400895b36d5241382e6b9d6ab35d0c9
18:34 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, but not today
18:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> no worries. I think that i fixed that issue, but haven't merged it in trunk yet
19:17 #navit: < youte> see that : https://github.com/navit-gps/ui-mockups
19:17 #navit: < youte> first step
19:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> perfect. exactly what we need
19:20 #navit: < youte> ;)
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