--- Log opened Wed Oct 25 00:00:50 2017 02:50 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-56323.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:50 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a04:4540:8c05:c501:ec4:7aff:fe33:3dc1] has joined #navit 05:47 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 06:53 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: annoying part seems just that i have from that run no test results or whatsoever, so i need to run again to get any idea about what was happening 10:12 #navit: < jkoan> T#1135 needs to be discussed 11:39 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 14:03 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:17 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:45 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 15:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 15:59 #navit: < jkoan> hi KaZeR 15:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: indeed that's annoying. hopefully just a glitch on aws's side 18:31 -!- MarcR [5dc5c566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.197.197.102] has joined #navit 18:32 #navit: < MarcR> Hi there 18:32 #navit: < jkoan> Hi MarcR 18:33 #navit: < MarcR> Can anyone help me with my Navit problem, on raspian jessie ? 18:33 #navit: < MarcR> I have Navit installed and running. 18:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi MarcR 18:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> we sure can 18:34 #navit: < MarcR> That would be great, because, navit is one of my - Must have points - on my car pi projekt ;) 18:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh yeah and we have more cool stuffs coming for carputers :) 18:36 #navit: < MarcR> I have downloaded a .bin map for germany . I have Neo 6M GPS installed an working - I have 6 / 11 GPS Satellite Locks - But I have still a yellow map in Navit Screen :-( 18:37 #navit: < MarcR> Kazer - that sounds interesting. Looking forward to more cool stuff 18:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. let's first check that your map is actually active. I'm assuming that you are using the default UI, gui_internal 18:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> in the menu, go to settings, maps 18:39 #navit: < MarcR> yeap - there is my binfile with a green mark and Route with a green mark 18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. then let's check your gps. you said that you had 6/11 gps, where did you get that info? 18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> (route is a pseudo map used to display or hide the computed route) 18:41 #navit: < MarcR> I have edited the navit.xml file, after a tutorial , with costum screen infos, like next turn, gps info , destination time 18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha there's one trick we can use to find where you are looking at 18:43 #navit: < Millesimus> Did you double-check the integrity of your map's file? 18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you click on the map, go to actions. What are the coordinates under the globe? do you have coordinates under the vehicle? 18:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> Millesimus: good point. although navit would probably complain in the console if it cannot open the map.. We should double check that thought 18:44 #navit: < MarcR> millesimus didn't checked it, how I can check it? maybe the file is damaged, that would be a total newbie fail :P 18:45 #navit: < MarcR> there is no error message about the map.bin file in console 18:45 #navit: < MarcR> and yes, i have coordinates, under the globe and under the vehicle 18:45 #navit: < MarcR> there are nearly the same 18:45 #navit: < Millesimus> Hashsum could be a solution or just downloading another smaller map. 18:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah really odd. MarcR can you share your map? 18:46 #navit: < Millesimus> I just mention it because I had this particular problem once or twice on my NaviPi. 18:46 #navit: < MarcR> there is just one error, when i start navit in console. 18:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> Millesimus: ha good to know. never had this issue myself but we should make sure that it is more obvious if it happens 18:47 #navit: < MarcR> error:navit:xinclude:Unable to include /usr/share/navit/maps/*.xml 18:48 #navit: < MarcR> that is the only message that i get, when i start navit in console 18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> not necessarily a big problem if you included your map directly instead of its own xml 18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> and since your map is showing in settings, it should be fine 18:49 #navit: < MarcR> it shows in settings yes 18:49 #navit: < Millesimus> KaZer, I don't quite remember whether I started it via console, so maybe there are already proper error messages for these cases. 18:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you share the .bin file? or its url? if you download it again somewhere, do the md5 checksums match? 18:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> Millesimus: it should complain if the zip file is damaged and cannot be opened, but maybe we don't check for all problems. Also, should probably warn in the UI instead of just the console 18:50 #navit: < MarcR> I downloaded it from the map extractor 18:50 #navit: < MarcR> http://maps9.navit-project.org/ 18:51 #navit: < MarcR> I will be quick , eat something, will be back in 10 minutes. 18:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: do you still have the download url? with the osm_bbox part ? 18:51 #navit: < MarcR> thanks for your help so far. And thanks that you try to help me here direct 18:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> np, that's what this channel is for :) 18:53 #navit: < MarcR> osm_bbox_5.2,46.8,15.5,55.6.bin - this should be it 18:53 #navit: < MarcR> away for 10 min 18:53 #navit: < Millesimus> KaZeR: What zip file should be damaged? I always download the bin files. 18:53 #navit: < Millesimus> MarcR, you could use the meantime to redownload the file and retry it afterwards. 18:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks MarcR 18:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> Millesimus: the .bin file is actually a .zip file :) 18:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can unzip it, you'll get all the tiles in the binary format 18:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Binfile 18:57 -!- MarcR [5dc5c566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.197.197.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:59 #navit: < Millesimus> Oh, shame on me :D 18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> np, it isn't obvious :) 18:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi all 18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey ilovekiruna 18:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: have you by any chance tried to restart my weird job? 19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i havent' yet 19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should add a time limit and do it 19:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> sure, maybe i do it a bit later then 19:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> because am really curious what fucks up 19:04 #navit: < ilovekiruna> jkoan: have you tried the feed again? 19:04 #navit: < ilovekiruna> or did we drop the idea? 19:04 -!- MarcR [5dc5c566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.197.197.102] has joined #navit 19:04 #navit: < MarcR> back again 19:08 -!- Locke [~MarcR@p5DC5C566.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 19:08 -!- MarcR [5dc5c566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.197.197.102] has quit [Client Quit] 19:08 #navit: < Locke> its me Marc 19:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> welcome back 19:09 #navit: < Locke> thx 19:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> so your map has a hash of 7d830d5d85034ee5e392458e5b7f29ff here 19:10 #navit: < Locke> i will check the hash of my file on the raspberry 19:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> i might know what's going on 19:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> did you specify the .bin directly in navit.xml? 19:11 #navit: < Locke> yeap 19:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you did, make sure that only one mapset is active at a time 19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> we can have multiple maps in one mapset, but only one mapset at a time 19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> this is because usually different mapsets will have incompatible coordinates systems, etc 19:13 #navit: < Locke> let me check that only one mapset is active 19:13 #navit: < Locke> in config 19:14 #navit: < Locke> yes, only one is active and the samplemap is inactive 19:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok, it was worth checking :) 19:15 #navit: < Locke> sure 19:15 #navit: < Locke> :) 19:15 #navit: < Locke> I would bet, that it is one of these facepalm mistakes 19:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> probably yeah 19:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> my map was from maps3, i'm downloading from maps9 right now to double check 19:22 #navit: < Locke> ok 19:22 #navit: < Locke> anything that I can check here ? 19:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> the checksum of the map on your end maybe? 19:23 #navit: < Locke> sorry for the question, but I just starting with unix again after years, how can i check the checksum ? 19:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> no worries! 19:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> md5sum 19:26 #navit: < Locke> on it 19:28 #navit: < Locke> hm seems that it was not such a good idea, to calculate the checksum on the raspberry :-P 19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha 19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah that file is probably around 3.5G from what i see 19:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> it should succeed, eventually :() 19:30 #navit: < Locke> yeap 19:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : for OSM maps, it's actually convenient to use the .xml per map approach, as you won't need to touch the navit.xml file config for that 19:30 #navit: < Locke> oh there we are 19:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> anyway we have a POC of a map downloader in the UI for linux (and more) so hopefully soon this process will be much easier 19:31 #navit: < Locke> ok its different 19:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> double checked with a map from map9 and i have the same result 19:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> so it looks like your file is corrupt 19:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> what's its exact size? (ls -l ) 19:33 #navit: < Locke> :'-( 19:33 #navit: < Locke> 3600202200 19:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> 3597875918 here 19:34 #navit: < Locke> damn 19:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> odd, your file is bigger, I would have expected the opposite 19:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> unzip -l | head ? 19:35 #navit: < Locke> i have unzipped the file on my win10 pc - saved it to my usb stick - and copied it to the pi then .... 19:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> unzipped on the win10pc ? 19:36 #navit: < Locke> yeap 19:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> unzipped the map? 19:36 #navit: < Locke> a nope 19:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you run the unzip command i pasted on the pi? 19:38 #navit: < Locke> on it 19:40 #navit: < Locke> downloading a irc client on the pi right now, to better post code here 19:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok! 19:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can also probably ssh on your pi from your windows machine. could make your life easier :) 19:41 #navit: < Locke> ... facepalm moment in .... 3 ...2 ... 19:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> :D 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 aadccadcadcadd 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 abcccaabacccaa 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 abcccaabcacbdd 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 abcccaabcacdad 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 abcccaabcacdba 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 abcccaabcacdbb 19:44 #navit: < Locke> 0 2017-10-21 05:43 abcccaabcacdbc 19:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok so your file is readable. i'd be interested to test your file, if possible 19:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> in the meantime you can redownload directly from the pi : wget -c http://maps.navit-project.org/api/map/?bbox=5.2,46.8,15.5,55.6 -O newfile.bin 19:45 #navit: < Locke> I think i will take my pi with me, tomorrow at work. cause the internet connection is why faster ;-) 19:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: to be curious, what speeds do you have at work and home? 19:46 #navit: < Locke> much faster ;) 19:46 #navit: < Locke> 16k here at home - 150mbit at work ;-) 19:46 #navit: < Locke> wget says, it would take 5days right now. ;-) 19:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ah, sorry, Locke, I thought that was what KaZeR wrote 19:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> but meant u ;-) 19:47 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Locke: u sit in Germany? 19:47 #navit: < Locke> ok the pi is connected via wifi right now , makes the connecting much slower 19:47 #navit: < Locke> yeap kiruna 19:47 #navit: < ilovekiruna> can imagine in countryside speeds are really crapy 19:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> Locke: ouch! 19:47 #navit: < ilovekiruna> that's why i asked 19:47 #navit: < Locke> its a pain in the ass 19:47 #navit: < Locke> yes 19:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> is that still ISDN?? 19:48 #navit: < Locke> hell no 19:48 #navit: < Locke> but not that much faster 19:48 #navit: < Locke> 13mbit 19:48 #navit: < Locke> so only 1,3m down 19:49 #navit: < ilovekiruna> 13 mbit is still not so bad, some regions are worse i think 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> Download: 388.19 Mbit/s Upload: 215.05 Mbit/s according to a test i just did :) 19:49 #navit: < Locke> and the wifi connection from the pi to my router is so slow right now :-( 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> Locke: is your wifi 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz ? 19:49 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: great speeds, despite i am not so bad, am jealous 19:49 #navit: < Locke> Yeah Kazer give it to me 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: fiber :D 19:50 #navit: < Locke> 2.4ghz 19:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> Locke: in my building 2.4Ghz sucks big time because it's overcrowded. 5Ghz works much better 19:51 #navit: < Locke> my old fritzbox dont have 5ghz so no opinion 19:51 #navit: < Locke> o only 3days left ... :-P 19:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha 19:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> you could also try with a smaller map 19:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> 3.5G is huge 19:53 #navit: < Locke> I will download the map tomorrow at work, will take the pi with me - working as pc technical - so no problem ;-) 19:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> cool! 19:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> check out the cool stuffs we've been working on, especially for carputers : https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/QML2_GUI 19:54 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: will now try our crazy test run again 19:54 #navit: < ilovekiruna> limit it to 10 minutes 19:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: fingers crossed! 19:54 #navit: < Locke> no way 19:54 #navit: < Locke> looking good 19:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> :D 19:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> for carputers, this branch could also be interesting : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/tree/audio_framework 19:55 #navit: < Locke> if you need a beta tester :-) 19:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> we definitely do! 19:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> the branch i linked to adds music playback (currently spotify and local files via mpd) 19:56 #navit: < Locke> I now have irc again on my main pc, so I will be here from time to time 19:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> great! 19:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> how far are you with your carputer project? what's your screen specs for example? 19:57 #navit: < Locke> would be cool, if I could help, bringing navit forward 19:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> definitely 19:57 #navit: < Locke> I'm thinking of the 7 inch touch screen 19:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> the rasperry pi foundation one? 19:58 #navit: < ilovekiruna> we are always happy to welcome new people :) 19:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep :) 19:58 #navit: < Locke> think so yes, cause it is the one, which fits best for the pi. 19:58 #navit: < Locke> i like it compact 19:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah i have this one, it integrates nicely. No bulky hdmi cables to run everywhere 19:59 #navit: < Locke> an hdmi touch still needs an hdmi connection, so big connection 19:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> exactly :) 19:59 #navit: < Locke> yeap 19:59 #navit: < Locke> we are thinking in the same direction ;-) 19:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes :) 20:00 #navit: < Locke> navit was one of my first thinks on the my "Must have" List for my carpi 20:01 #navit: < Locke> then comes bluetooth - handsfree siri , if possible 20:01 #navit: < ilovekiruna> instead of siri, i would suggest to check if solutions like sirius are still out there 20:02 #navit: < Locke> sirius ? I have to check that 20:02 #navit: < ilovekiruna> I just notice it is now called lucida 20:02 #navit: < ilovekiruna> https://github.com/claritylab/lucida 20:03 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: am unhappy about the result 20:04 #navit: < ilovekiruna> tests worked fine 20:04 #navit: < Locke> ok save the link for later 20:04 #navit: < Locke> saved 20:05 #navit: < Locke> damn , the project will take time ;-) 20:05 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Locke: u know it is just if available and good enough, as users of FOSS I think it is better to avoid proprietary things 20:05 #navit: < ilovekiruna> sometimes ofc we cant 20:06 #navit: < Locke> I could easy buy a - good new radio for my car, with bluetooth and so on. but hey, then I have learned nothing. so 20:07 #navit: < Locke> i could download a small map to continue 20:08 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: i checked map9 now 20:08 #navit: < ilovekiruna> seems like it just has Taiwan in bundle with Korea and Japan 20:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: the country list today is hardcoded in navit, not the map server 20:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> Locke: hopefully by joining forces we'll move faster :) 20:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: unhappy about the results? 20:10 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: unhappy in the sense, that i couldnt reproduce the problem of yesterday 20:10 #navit: < Locke> no promisses but, If I could help, I'm happy to help 20:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: maybe a glitch on their end. the behavior was really weird 20:11 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: still happy that it works, but would have loved to know what screwed it up last time 20:11 #navit: < Locke> if i can not could 20:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> Locke: if you have the will, we'll find things where you can help :) beta testing qml2 will be super useful for example. i can build an image for you to make the tests easier 20:12 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: wondering as well, should we expect issues with encoding of strings like we had with the guy from syria? 20:12 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 20:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i don't think that the root cause was fixed unfortunately 20:13 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: then i ditch taiwan for now and use a smaller German region 20:14 #navit: < ilovekiruna> or Azores 20:14 #navit: < ilovekiruna> lovely small map 20:14 #navit: < Locke> KaZeR: Sounds like a plan 20:15 #navit: < Locke> downloading a 210mb map file now - lovely small ;-) 20:15 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Locke: which one? 20:15 #navit: < Locke> hm samba would be nice on the pi 20:17 #navit: < Locke> osm_bbox_7.0,51.4,8.3,52.2 20:17 #navit: < Locke> selected it by hand 20:17 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ah, ok 20:18 #navit: < ilovekiruna> I am using predefined areas 20:18 #navit: < ilovekiruna> because i need to download automatically 20:18 #navit: < Locke> no predefined 20:18 #navit: < Locke> ah, ok 20:18 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Azores is 80 MB 20:18 #navit: < ilovekiruna> according to the app 20:18 #navit: < Locke> i'm looking to get a gps lock on the map 20:19 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ok 20:19 #navit: < Locke> so I selected an area nearby 20:20 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: which was the setting again to make navit stick more to the current road? 20:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: regarding taiwan i forgot the context of your question :) i'll confirm once taiwan is deployed in the playstore. in the meantime this apk : https://3271-30791823-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/root/project/android-arm/navit/android/bin/navit-bcd60ee37e970973c17c2e71d8953c800dbe7ebf-arm-debug.apk should have taiwan as its own download 20:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> but yeah azores would work just well ( replying as i read ;) ) 20:22 #navit: < ilovekiruna> it also shows all characters correctly, when deployed to a latin based device? 20:25 #navit: < Locke> oh sweet, gps works from the start up . So looks like a can make thinks right on the pi ;-) 20:31 #navit: < Locke> hmmm 20:31 #navit: < Locke> still yellow screen 20:32 #navit: < Locke> hmm 20:35 #navit: < Locke> I will remove navit, and will install it from the ground up. 20:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR can i run the whole clicking to create a test via the api? a bit tiring click all the time the same ;-) 20:42 #navit: < Locke> doing the step by step self installing from the wiki now 20:42 #navit: < Locke> 186mb dependencies to install .... 21:19 -!- Locke [~MarcR@p5DC5C566.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 21:20 -!- MarcR [~MarcR@p5DC5C566.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 21:42 #navit: < MarcR> holy shit 21:43 #navit: < MarcR> navit is up and running 21:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: my next suggestion would have been to check your navit version. should maybe have done that earlier :) 21:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> most users run navit with the latest code. If you use a very old version the map driver might be outdated 21:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: you can test a device by clicking in the aws UI, but it won't record 21:47 #navit: < MarcR> I have removed the navit what i have installed before, with apt-get install navit 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> tryed the step by step guide on the wiki, but cmake has erros 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> but installed all dependencies 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> then tryed apt-get install again 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> edited navit.xml 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> bam 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> works 21:48 #navit: < MarcR> :D 21:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: ofc i can do it by clicking, but that isnt the goal ;-) 22:00 #navit: < MarcR> ha ha - making progress 22:00 #navit: < MarcR> damn - thats a good feeling 22:00 #navit: < MarcR> looks like there a missing items 22:06 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: my problem seems just again that i need to learn some new commands correctly again ;-) 22:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: oh yeah that's not the goal, just wanted to point out that it's an option if we need to test something specific 22:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: nice! so did you find an issue with the wiki instructions? 22:25 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: have you seen my question on how to make the road tracking more precise? 22:25 #navit: < ilovekiruna> that navit doesnt lock on crossing roads 22:25 #navit: < ilovekiruna> or roads beside the current one 22:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i haven't. where is it? 22:26 #navit: < ilovekiruna> quite some time a go in the discussion 22:26 #navit: < MarcR> seems more to be a problem with my respian jessie install. 22:26 #navit: < MarcR> i followed the instructions step by step. 22:27 #navit: < MarcR> but when i start to compile with cmake, it starts and give out some errors with a total kill of the compiling 22:27 #navit: < MarcR> missing fonts, some kind of that 22:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you still have that error? 22:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: was it today? i remember discussing this a few weeks ago 22:29 #navit: < MarcR> sorry no. not the exact console output, i have already deleted the git copy and installed navit with apt-get install again 22:29 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: was at 22:20 in my time zone, just before you told me you forgot the context of my question regarding taiwan 22:30 #navit: < MarcR> but i could give it a try tomorrow again, then i can make a log of it, if that helps 22:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: thanks, i'd like to fix the doc if something is missing 22:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: ah, found it : KaZeR: which was the setting again to make navit stick more to the current road? 22:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> exactly ;-) 22:34 #navit: < MarcR> uuh - just recognized this feature. navit sets the vehicle type (day / night) depending on the time, which it gets from gps 22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: that 22:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's probably route_pref : https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuration/Full_list_of_options#tracking 22:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: as anything within navit it's configurable if you don't like it :) you can choose both map layouts too 22:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> (day/night) 22:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: thanks 22:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> will implement it in my OSD tomorrow 22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> cool 22:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> will hit the bed now, good night all 22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> ++ 22:36 #navit: < MarcR> me too, will give you some logs tomorrow 22:37 #navit: < MarcR> have good sleep here 22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> i guess you're switching to the nigh layout :D 22:37 #navit: < MarcR> and thanks for the help 22:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> thanks, MarC, u too 22:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> btw: KaZeR, one thing annoys me 22:38 #navit: < ilovekiruna> look for xample on this case: testing downloading 8 22:38 #navit: < ilovekiruna> these are no errors from us, but their infrastructure :'( 22:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah :( i guess that it's really hard to get something really stable 22:39 #navit: < ilovekiruna> we can discuss tomorrow :) 22:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> weird that we don't have captures. maybe it's just an upload lag, we'll see :) 22:39 #navit: < ilovekiruna> especially it worries me, if we would use that for ci 22:39 #navit: < ilovekiruna> totally useless, sorry 22:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> you mean the device farm is useless? 22:40 #navit: < ilovekiruna> not completely useless, but for sure if we test a large number of devices, such false positives wont make our life easy 22:41 #navit: < ilovekiruna> imagine we test it on the 300+ devices the farm offers us 22:41 #navit: < ilovekiruna> just one of those cases in every device in a day 22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> true. i don't think that we should test a lot of devices (as it would cost a lot of money anyway) but maybe a combination of phones/tablets 22:41 #navit: < ilovekiruna> so much noise in the useful errors 22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> also maybe some of the failures are caused by us, because we're new to this 22:42 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i would exclude this option, for such cases 22:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'd like to have that after the ci builds and before the upload to google. today it's too easy to push something that will just crash at startup everywhere 22:42 #navit: < ilovekiruna> because if i resubmit a new case again, it works 22:42 #navit: < ilovekiruna> without any changes 22:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> if it crashes in device farm we can investigate (or just retry) and it should help us reduce the crashs for real world users (hopefully) 22:43 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i also hope so 22:43 #navit: < ilovekiruna> the only thing i say, considering how much they charge for full scale work, the performance is really poor 22:43 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i mean 1000 euros a month? 22:43 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ok, in business not so much maybe, but still 22:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha yeah for some business it's nothing. i've work in the past with companies spending over $1m / month in aws services ;) 22:44 #navit: < ilovekiruna> on services of that quality???? 22:45 #navit: < ilovekiruna> btw: it seems to work now, but not sure if it actually downloads 22:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha well the other services i'm used to are working better :) 22:46 #navit: * KaZeR wonders if we can run the test suite from an interactive sessions 22:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> then it is fine :) 22:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> that would help us troubleshoot 22:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> the total time spent is so close to the time limit that it's odd :) 22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> either the test didn't complete and timedout, or we might be missing something to tell aws that the tests are done and the device can be shutdown 22:47 #navit: < ilovekiruna> which test do you mean? 22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> running your appium tests from an interactive session 22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> looking quickly if it seems feasible 22:52 -!- MarcR [~MarcR@p5DC5C566.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #navit [] 22:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> doesn't seem possible. Looks like images from the menu are missing too 22:57 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i start to wonder how tricky it is to run appium on my own machine 22:57 #navit: < ilovekiruna> because honestly it feels pretty long time for one test, always 22:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> true. that's probably also because you have to wait for a device to be available 22:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> running locally would also probably make it easier to troubleshoot 22:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> especially one thing one notices 22:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i guess u r right those are different devices 22:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> sometimes there is a message on an android update 22:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> sometimes not 23:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> anyhow, it starts downloading 23:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> just guess i need to give it more time 23:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> anyhow, way too late 23:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> need to sleep 23:02 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> well non latin chars are working in device farm : https://imgur.com/a/YP4C5 23:34 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E001D00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:47 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E648501022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 23:47 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Oct 26 00:00:51 2017