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00:13 #navit: < twoelk|2> lol, the descriptions in the gpx file were too long so almost the complete descriptive text got copied to the navit logfile
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00:28 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n
00:28 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed
00:28 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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08:12 #navit: <+jkoan> hi ilovekiruna
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12:43 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: the more I think about the tomtom Linux kernel, the more I think the mainline kernel has all tomtom related patches included
12:45 #navit: <+jkoan> I will try to run the mainline kernel with the tomtom xl :)
17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> h ithere
17:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: that would make sense given how old most of these patches are
17:19 #navit: <+jkoan> Yes it's a 2.4 kernel, so really old
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17:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh my
17:35 #navit: <+jkoan> Newer updates seem to use 2.6
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17:39 #navit: < gernot_> hi
17:50 #navit: < gernot_> "actual" opentom use 2.6.13
17:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey gernot_ ! good to see you!
17:52 #navit: <+jkoan> gernot_: I know, but the first version of the official one uses 2.4
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17:57 #navit: < gernot_> jkoan: interesting... May be 2.4 is a bit smaller. 32k RAM is the key problem on TT XL
17:57 #navit: < gernot_> sorry M
17:58 #navit: <+jkoan> No, they also updated it also in later software updates
17:58 #navit: < gernot_> OK
18:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey jandegr !
18:00 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer
18:00 #navit: < gernot_> My TT XL and 730 work with some limitations well with opentom and swap to SD.
18:00 #navit: < jandegr> any news on CA flooding ?
18:01 #navit: <+jkoan> Ca flooding?
18:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> Sacramento area being drawn as flooded by navit because of a broken contour in OSM :)
18:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> i tried it briefly 2 or 3 days ago, the issue was still visible. i'll double check in a moment
18:05 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: Made a raspberry webcam/GSM project. Now think about Raspberry back cam -> vnc -> TT 
18:06 #navit: < gernot_> Or just replace TT. The limited RAM is so restricting.
18:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah even a pi zero would be better!
18:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> gernot_: i made significant progress on buildroot + navit. i can now build a fully working navit image for the rpi, using EGL
18:20 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: did you published the progress on buildroot?
18:21 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: mice
18:21 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: nice
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18:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: currently it's in my own repo, but i'll move it to the org repo soon : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit-buildroot
18:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha, i need to update my master branch hang on
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18:31 #navit: < Mineque> hi all
18:31 #navit: < gernot_> hi
18:33 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: nice, if I get tomtom running with buildroot I will also contribute to this :)
18:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: sweet
18:35 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: what tomtom devices will be supporterd?
18:35 #navit: <+jkoan> Mineque: definitely tomtom one xl
18:36 #navit: <+jkoan> But probably all of the "one" series 
18:36 #navit: < Mineque> i have tomtom go730 (old one)
18:36 #navit: < gernot_> I run it on a TT730 in opentom environment.
18:36 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: it'll be dualOS ?
18:36 #navit: < Mineque> or dual app
18:36 #navit: < gernot_> The Tomtom integration did not work for me
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18:37 #navit: <+jkoan> Yes, gernot_ the tomtom plugin does not work for me also
18:38 #navit: < gernot_> jkoan: They changed something...
18:39 #navit: <+jkoan> Mineque: NavitTom will be a own OS for the tomtom device but not so much that I want to call it dual OS. Anyway I have a sd card slot and swap the cards to switch the os
18:40 #navit: <+jkoan> gernot_: we can definitely look into it but I want to try to push NavitTom because then we have more ressources to run the actual navit
18:41 #navit: < gernot_> Be carefuel while swapping cards :-) sometime you dont get a reset. I had the internal storage corrupted on XL.
18:41 #navit: <+jkoan> I only swap them while the device is offline ;)
18:41 #navit: < gernot_> The XL dont handle SD and Internal memory at the same time.
18:42 #navit: < gernot_> jkoan: I switch off, press reset. swap.
18:43 #navit: < gernot_> The good thing is that the backup is easy 
18:43 #navit: < gernot_> Just use ist as a USB-Storage
18:43 #navit: <+jkoan> I can access the SD card and the flash at the same time :D but you are right that it can not boot from both at the same time
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18:45 #navit: < gernot_> jkoan: so what, my TT730 can this also. But my TT XL dont 
18:46 #navit: < gernot_> It Just swap the connections to the storage.
18:47 #navit: <+jkoan> Oh, probably because mine is a tomtom one xl II (2)
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18:47 #navit: < gernot_> ok
18:48 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi all
18:49 #navit: <+jkoan> hi ilovekiruna
18:49 #navit: < Mineque> hi
18:49 #navit: < gernot_> hi
18:49 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi jkoan, hi Mineque, hi gernot_
18:53 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna: whats up for today?
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19:05 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: jkoan: not so much yet
19:05 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> was a long day
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19:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: How about urself?
19:40 #navit: <+jkoan> Waiting for buildroot to complete
19:42 #navit: <+jkoan> Currently the kernel gets compiled
20:37 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: that must be huge kernel ;)
20:38 #navit: <+jkoan> if finished already 10mins ago, but the problem is that i dont have a debug port. so i cant see whats happening after the tomtom loaded it 
20:42 #navit: <+jkoan> Mineque: any idea how i can debug the tomtom boot without have a debug port?
20:42 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: wrong address sorry, not dev at all 
20:42 #navit: <+jkoan> oh i remember :D
20:53 #navit: < gernot_> in opentom is a setting that use the display for console output. Just for debug and not usable for work.
20:54 #navit: <+jkoan> gernot_: i know, but i try to move from opentom to buildroot
20:55 #navit: < gernot_> I know, but check the kernel settings to activate it for buildroot
20:56 #navit: <+jkoan> ah now i know what you mean, thy
20:56 #navit: <+jkoan> *thx
20:57 #navit: < gernot_> by
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20:58 #navit: <+jkoan> see you
21:41 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: just repaired the tomtom one :O now I have two tomtom testing devices
21:41 #navit: <+jkoan> Now I am happy
21:41 #navit: <+jkoan> But the one even don't have a debugging interface :(
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23:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: nice!
23:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: no pins on the board itself? sometimes you can solder a connector somewhere
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23:34 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: any update?
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