--- Log opened Mon Apr 30 00:00:57 2018 00:29 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n 00:29 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed 00:29 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://legacy.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 00:35 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:45 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 03:37 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a04:4540:8c08:a201:100b:915:f940:4797] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:42 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@46.59.206.42] has joined #navit 04:01 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 04:01 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 04:07 -!- aerostitch [~aerostitc@c-67-164-55-119.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:19 -!- aerostitch [~aerostitc@c-67-164-55-119.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 04:35 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:44 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 04:52 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:03 -!- aerostitch [~aerostitc@c-67-164-55-119.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:54 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@46.59.206.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:57 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 05:57 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 06:05 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a04:4540:8c01:9801:d8d2:a6dc:bf84:ae38] has joined #navit 06:37 -!- pmckinley [~Mutter@host-92-19-96-151.as13285.net] has joined #navit 06:38 -!- pmckinley [~Mutter@host-92-19-96-151.as13285.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:54 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:57 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 10:32 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@147.231.17.73] has joined #navit 10:32 -!- mode/#navit [+v ilovekiruna] by ChanServ 11:16 -!- Millesim- [~Millesimu@serenity.pestnagel.org] has quit [Quit: Valete!] 11:16 -!- Millesimus [~Millesimu@serenity.pestnagel.org] has joined #navit 14:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 15:05 #navit: <+jkoan> hi KaZeR 15:06 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: the CircleCI enviroment variables are working wehn reciving a pull request from a repo which is a fork 15:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: ok now it makes sense. thanks 15:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> the ultimate idea is to have a script report the results of coverity scans in the PRs 15:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> as part of the validation 15:09 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, would be nice 15:10 #navit: <+jkoan> but even better would be to host this our self using unit test and this: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1362 15:59 -!- aerostitch [~aerostitc@VEVO-LLC.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net] has joined #navit 16:00 #navit: <+jkoan> hi aerostitch 16:03 #navit: < aerostitch> Hey jkoan 16:03 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi KaZeR, hi aerostitch, hi jkoan 16:03 #navit: < aerostitch> hi ilovekiruna 16:04 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: Regarding #551, how could we collect such logs on android? Would be pretty cool for me 16:04 #navit: < aerostitch> Hey guys, I created another proposal that will probably get some people mad: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/561 Feel free hop in! :D 16:06 #navit: <+jkoan> thx aerostitch we really need this 16:06 #navit: <+jkoan> hi ilovekiruna 16:06 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna: what about logcat on android? 16:07 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: wouldnt that require I need to connect a computer while driving? 16:07 #navit: <+jkoan> there are also logcat apps 16:07 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but no way for ootb? 16:08 #navit: <+jkoan> ootb? 16:08 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> out of the box 16:08 #navit: <+jkoan> i dont think so 16:10 #navit: <+jkoan> aerostitch: this could go hand in handy with the idea from earlier in the logs today 16:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1362 would be a good complement but doesn't really replace coverity imo 16:10 #navit: < aerostitch> jkoan: "thx aerostitch we really need this" => this = another of aerostitch's annoyances or unit tests? :D 16:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> aerostitch: i doubt that anybody would consider unit tests an annoyance 16:12 #navit: < aerostitch> lol today ends with day which means it's a troll day KaZeR :D (No insomnia tonight so I'm on fire! \o/ ) 16:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> OMG 16:14 #navit: <+jkoan> aerostitch: unit tests 16:14 #navit: < aerostitch> KaZeR: there's also cppcheck that finds a lot of suffs (I want to finish the move to g_* memory functions before starting back on cppcheck, but I initially started looking at it) 16:14 #navit: < aerostitch> :D 16:16 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: aerostitch needs voice ;) 16:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> aerostitch: nice 16:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: aerostitch needs to auth against Nickserv :) 16:18 #navit: <+jkoan> then you need to go down stairs ? :D 16:18 #navit: < aerostitch> What? I'm not auth???? 16:18 #navit: < aerostitch> R U serious??? 16:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> aerostitch: /whois aerostitch ... 16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: actually he's upstairs :) 16:20 #navit: < aerostitch> I'll do a modification on the script that migrates trac tickets to github to migrate just 1 trac issue at a time if I take some issues from there 16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> aerostitch: i was actually thinking about that 16:20 #navit: < aerostitch> it's pretty easy to do 16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> we've been doing a decent job at filtering the tickets that you migrated from sourceforge 16:20 #navit: < aerostitch> yeah I saw that 16:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> my thoughts were that we could migrate a couple of tickets from trac whenever we're below a given amount of tickets on github 16:21 #navit: < aerostitch> if you want to migrate specific issues from trac lmk I'll look at it 16:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should think of a treshold maybe, if we're below that threshold we could migrate a few tickets. we should maybe start with recent/active tickets 16:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> and work our way back into the backlog 16:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> right now we have 27 issues in github. I'd suggest to use 20 as the threshold. so we should try and close at least 8 issues there 16:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/457 should be easy to close for example 16:23 #navit: < aerostitch> Well, I'd rather migrate only tickets one of us wants to work on. Migrating other stuffs would make some other good contributors mad... I'd rather keep good contributers happy to work on old ticketing systems. Using tools we don't like make people leave projects and I don't want that 16:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> we also shouldn't be too far from https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/366 jkoan thoughts? 16:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> aerostitch: yeah good point. As long as we keep the queue in GH small i'm fine with it 16:25 #navit: < aerostitch> Yes, I've been hammered on fixing dependencies of dependencies of dependencies on some of my packages this weekend and will probably be still blocked on that for a few days 16:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> no worries aerostitch 16:26 #navit: < aerostitch> but I'll take #457 over when I'm done with that and I got navit 0.5.1 in Debian 16:28 #navit: <+jkoan> i havent done more work with #366, i will try to finish it asap 16:31 #navit: < aerostitch> I could take care of the ppa on launchpad 16:31 #navit: < aerostitch> the replication I've done failed a few days ago 16:32 #navit: < aerostitch> I'm pretty sure it's related to a push force on trunk so I'll move the replication to master so it's safer 16:32 #navit: < aerostitch> Debian don't really have PPA 16:32 #navit: < aerostitch> so it's going to be Ubuntu 16:33 #navit: <+jkoan> whyat about selfhosting it? 16:33 #navit: < aerostitch> I think we could turn that one in a project 16:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> aerostitch: using master for that sounds like a good idea yeah 16:41 #navit: < aerostitch> why bother? We could use https://download.opensuse.org/ 16:43 #navit: < aerostitch> Plus I think weekly would be better than nightly right? 16:44 #navit: <+jkoan> yep 16:46 -!- jandegr [d5d390e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.211.144.227] has joined #navit 16:48 #navit: <+jkoan> hi jandegr 16:48 #navit: < jandegr> hi folks 16:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey jandegr 16:52 #navit: < jandegr> hi folks 16:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: remember that beer you owe me for sending me on the bay bridge by accident? 16:54 #navit: < jandegr> I remember you claiming a beer but I did not acknowledge AFAIK 16:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll check my logs :) 16:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> well the issue is still present, was wondering if you'd be interested 16:57 #navit: < jandegr> ok 16:58 #navit: < jandegr> was that HOV related ? 16:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/37.8100/-122.2932 : driving on the I880 northbound, towards I80/I580 there's an announcement missing. I know that it's partly caused by the specifics of that junctino 16:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> but if you don't know better, you end up following the junction that brings you on the bridge. junction is here : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/37.81578/-122.29956 17:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> exactly here : https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8141689,-122.3007688,3a,75y,35.5h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr9Nb6N2Y_EtcVm2mRRuy2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 17:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> because of the layout of the lanes before, you usually end up on the 3rd lane here (rightmost lanes are exit only) 17:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> so unless there's an announcement saying to keep right to take the San Rafael/Sacramento direction, it's easy to end up on the Bridge. And then you cannot make a u-turn before Treasure Island, and you HAVE to pay the toll 17:04 -!- DXOS3 [63e9b446@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.180.70] has joined #navit 17:05 #navit: <+jkoan> hi DXOS3 17:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey DXOS3 17:05 #navit: < DXOS3> hey 17:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> we were discussing one of the issues you faced here : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/559 17:06 #navit: < aerostitch> jander: not sure if I follow your comment in https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/561#issuecomment-385464145 I'm talking about unit testing framework like CUnit, aceUnit (or jUnit for java code) for example 17:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> also the wince builds should now include the correct images since https://github.com/navit-gps/Dockerfiles/commit/f7e76be9413cd18a3079559852f821d4473aa95a 17:06 #navit: < DXOS3> dats cool 17:08 #navit: < DXOS3> im gonna attempt to put another map on the device today and find out how good the routing algorithm is gonna be 17:08 #navit: < jandegr> aerostich I just reacted to the word Debian in ""I wanted to add some unit testing in Debian"", not sure if this was to run on CI or just locally 17:10 #navit: < DXOS3> im interested, are all maps displayed as https://tiles.wmflabs.org/osm-no-labels 17:11 #navit: < DXOS3> thats what the munich map looks like so far 17:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> DXOS3: that link is 404 for me 17:12 #navit: < aerostitch> jandegr; sorry seems I did too much Debian-related stuffs these last days, I meant in Navit, sorry for that I'll correct the ticket 17:12 #navit: < DXOS3> oops https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_servers OSM No Labels 17:16 #navit: < jandegr> kazer I have the impression OSM is a bit wrong 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> DXOS3: the default layout will look somewhat like this : https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/File:3D-arrow-head-windows.png 17:16 #navit: < jandegr> now towards the bridges is a lower cat road 17:17 #navit: < jandegr> (in OSM) 17:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> the color scheme is based on Map and Guide (M&G) which was the first data source navit used, long before OSM 17:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> DXOS3: it's really easy to customize the layout, and you can customize about just everything. We need to improve the doc at https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Layout 17:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> and we need to host the layouts in a repo with automated screenshots. If you want to help, this should be a quite easy task actually 17:18 #navit: < jandegr> it has more lanes but is marked motorway_link, where the 2 lanes road is motorway 17:18 #navit: < DXOS3> mmk, ill take a look at a map of ontario through the program first 17:19 #navit: < jandegr> so with the given OSM data, it the driver is not instructed to take the exit, follow the main road (north) 17:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> DXOS3: cool 17:19 #navit: < jandegr> I feel I'll have to do a local survey 17:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: :D 17:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: yeah i can see why this leads to no announcements. the thing is that when you drive there it's really easy to get on the wrong lane 17:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: i have another misleading direction if you're interested. Which is also caused by OSM data, but i don't know how to fix it 17:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/39.32300/-120.20800 17:24 #navit: < DXOS3> the planet extractor did not download an xml file. Should I create a new one with the same line as the sample map and edit it with the new coordinates? 17:24 #navit: <+jkoan> in the xml are not coordinates as far i know 17:25 #navit: < jandegr> kazer https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=19/37.81485/-122.30036 17:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> DXOS3: yeah when files are downloaded via the app (like android) the xml file is created for you by navit. 17:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> you'll have to create that xml file manually for now. it's a bit cumbersome indeed 17:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: thanks! 17:37 #navit: < jandegr> kazer what is the issue in the second case ? 17:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> so the second case is caused by the fact that there isn't 2 lanes all the way around. so the roundabout tag isn't usable (or isnt' used correctly) 17:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> so when you drive coming from the south and approach the first roundabout, navit says "turn right" which leads you into the first exit instead of going straight 17:39 #navit: < jandegr> will look into it, don't want you to get lost 17:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> the route was coming from the south, and driving towards the I80 westbound. so you have to go across all two roundabouts 17:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks :D 17:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you look at a satellite picture you can see where the lanes are merging right in the roundabout : https://www.google.com/maps/place/39%C2%B019'21.5%22N+120%C2%B012'28.1%22W/@39.322428,-120.207826,129m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d39.32265!4d-120.20781 17:43 #navit: < DXOS3> trying to enable the mapset through the main xml, my storage card on PC is called SDHC but on WinCE its called SDMMC, which one should I use for the filename? 17:44 #navit: < DXOS3> im on line 217 from the ix.io/18Jb template 17:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> the NAVIT_SHAREDIR alias should work 17:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> 17:54 #navit: < jandegr> sloppy mapping over there kazer, will take a rainy day to redo that one :) 17:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: good to know. I did some research and it looks like we won't be able to use the roundabout tag unless we use the same number of lanes all the way around, is that correct? 17:58 #navit: < jandegr> no 18:00 #navit: < jandegr> https://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1303#comment:3 18:01 #navit: < jandegr> """no matter how close an entry and exit road are, there is always a small piece of roundabout inbetween and it convinces me that the other samples are just mappers lazyness. """ 18:03 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: do you want do disable the "Your update is live" emails? 18:04 #navit: < DXOS3> well this might be a long startup, the map is fairly big and im not sure if navit loads map sections at a time or the whole thing 18:04 #navit: <+jkoan> navit only loads what it needs, not everything 18:04 #navit: <+jkoan> try to reduce the initial zoom 18:07 #navit: < DXOS3> rn its at the same level as the sample map, what number should i make it 18:09 #navit: < DXOS3> https://pastebin.com/64XqZrpz 18:10 #navit: <+jkoan> it seems you dont have a map enabled 18:10 #navit: <+jkoan> could you provide your map? 18:10 #navit: <+jkoan> *navit.xml not map 18:11 #navit: < DXOS3> sure 18:13 #navit: < DXOS3> http://www.mediafire.com/file/ozz2bpb2q6jcg2n/navit.xml 18:13 #navit: < DXOS3> i thought i had it enabled, maybe i didnt do it properly? 18:13 #navit: <+jkoan> see line 213 18:14 #navit: <+jkoan> the include is enabled="no" 18:16 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna: you wanted to do the xml split, right? 18:20 #navit: < DXOS3> i guess i should remove the sample map, the program does not know where the map is if i go to settings-->maps 18:20 #navit: < DXOS3> i even set the center to be right over the extracted map 18:26 -!- jandegr [d5d390e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.211.144.227] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:27 -!- DXOS3 [63e9b446@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.180.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:53 -!- DXOS3 [63e9b446@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.180.70] has joined #navit 19:08 #navit: < DXOS3> navit wont recognize the new map 19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> back 19:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i don't think that we want to disable the emails. I've been thinking about an automated tweet maybe for example (have a script that reads the email and tweet it) 19:28 #navit: <+jkoan> DXOS3: could you provide the map xml for the new file? 19:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> DXOS3: no complaints in the log? 19:29 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: okay, but why not directly in the build on circleci 19:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: because you need to wait for the confirmation from Google that the update has been dispatched 19:33 #navit: <+jkoan> yeah :/ 20:01 #navit: < DXOS3> nvm, got it figured out 20:01 #navit: < DXOS3> there arent really any zooming buttons 20:02 #navit: < DXOS3> the search function did not recognize a named street with spaces but it did without spaces 20:02 #navit: < DXOS3> however the algorithm is setup based on preferences from the main xml file i assume 20:03 #navit: < DXOS3> is a navigation HUD being worked on? 20:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> > however the algorithm is setup based on preferences from the main xml file i assume 20:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> exactly. We call that "routing profiles". there's a bunch of predefined ones in the xml, and you can add your own 20:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> > is a navigation HUD being worked on? 20:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should ship a default one yeah. The challenge is that it's difficult to make one that will look good on all devices, all resolutions and all orientations 20:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> here's an example : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit-nuc-layout 20:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> this includes a map layout and an OSD layout 20:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> hopefully soon we should be able to display previews in navit and have a function to download them on the fly 20:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> we have a few more examples in the wiki too. But we should move them outside of the wiki, in a git repo with screenshots to make it easier to manage them 20:18 #navit: < DXOS3> alright thx for the info, have to get off now, might be back on wednesday, cya later 20:18 -!- DXOS3 [63e9b446@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.180.70] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:39 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: what do you mean? 21:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I didnt have a split in the xml code in mind. I was rather thinking of improving the OSD 22:19 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@24-113-88-156.wavecable.com] has joined #navit 22:24 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:39 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 22:45 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:24 -!- pmckinley [~Peter_McK@host-92-19-109-25.as13285.net] has joined #navit 23:26 #navit: < pmckinley> :-D 23:26 #navit: < pmckinley> Avon calling 23:30 -!- aerostitch [~aerostitc@VEVO-LLC.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:45 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E02CC00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:57 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E023100022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 23:57 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ --- Log closed Tue May 01 00:00:59 2018