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10:20 #navit: < genesis> hi
11:31 #navit: < genesis> https://hub.docker.com/r/navit/tomtom-build-image/ i donno know well docker but who's maintener of this ?
11:37 #navit: < genesis> could be simpler if all build target was same ubuntu latest LTS
11:37 #navit: < genesis> tomtom, linux and android.
11:43 #navit: < genesis> anyway if we don't or can't fix, cmakefiles are not fixable since cmake drop support for old behaviour 
11:55 #navit: < genesis> https://hub.docker.com/r/runmymind/docker-android-sdk/~/dockerfile/ based on 18.04
12:18 #navit: < genesis> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/652
12:39 #navit: < genesis> my best proposition.
13:49 #navit: < genesis> i donno if people would accept that stuff
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14:31 #navit: <+jkoan> genesis: WA are the maintainer of this Docker image
14:32 #navit: <+jkoan> *we
14:33 #navit: < genesis> and that's really usefull jkoan ?
14:34 #navit: <+jkoan> I am talking about the tomtom image, and yes we need it
14:34 #navit: < genesis> so please commit dockerfiles in https://github.com/navit-gps/Dockerfiles
14:34 #navit: < genesis> and i'll perharps understand why :)
14:34 #navit: < genesis> read my point on #652
14:35 #navit: <+jkoan> For now thy are here: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/tree/trunk/scripts/docker/tomtom
14:36 #navit: < genesis> ho
14:36 #navit: < genesis> oki thx
14:36 #navit: < genesis> lot of boilerplate here too :)
14:37 #navit: <+jkoan> But the work on updating our build infrastructure is essential, yes
14:46 #navit: < genesis> jkoan : and what about just add thing in scripts and let use default 18.04 for tomtom ?
14:47 #navit: < genesis> i see redundant with scripts/build_android.sh
14:47 #navit: < genesis> i guess that people want docker image on their devel machine ?
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14:56 #navit: < genesis> i should not have pb to fix build_win32
14:58 #navit: < genesis> but tomtom need a closest look, but import work in default image seems our better option to reduce work. 
16:13 #navit: < genesis> http://max.kellermann.name/projects/cegcc/
16:14 #navit: < genesis> forked & upgraded 
16:14 #navit: <+jkoan> nice, will test this soon
16:15 #navit: < genesis> jkoan : you do ?
16:17 #navit: <+jkoan> if you want you also may ;) i would do it probably next weekend, but cant guarantee 
16:19 #navit: < genesis> only if i can drop docker image
16:21 #navit: < genesis> unify the stuff is a bit of work but saves huge amount of headaches.
16:22 #navit: < genesis> i'm happy when i removed more code i write.
16:22 #navit: <+jkoan> we will not drop docker images, but create up to date ones 
16:23 #navit: < genesis> why not ? 
16:24 #navit: <+jkoan> because we need to save time on circleci
16:24 #navit: < genesis> i don't get your point, save time how ?
16:25 #navit: < genesis> compiling stuff ?
16:25 #navit: < genesis> hum
16:26 #navit: < genesis> let me thinks about that ok.
16:26 #navit: <+jkoan> when we have a lot of things to install on runtime, we waste that time with waiting for the network or something like that
16:33 #navit: < genesis> btw, the lack of cmake 3.x is tomtom, so that's my priority 
16:33 #navit: < genesis> not really wince image.
16:36 #navit: <+jkoan> okay, let me take a look, i should have access to the docker images
16:40 #navit: <+jkoan> ah i see the problem
16:50 #navit: <+jkoan> i have pushed the Dockerfiles from scripts/docker/tomtom to Dockerfiles/tomtom and set up a automated build, will say you when the first build finished
16:51 #navit: < genesis> fine :)
17:05 #navit: < genesis> win32 target makes me crazy, need a rest
17:06 #navit: <+jkoan> wince is more complicated ;)
17:08 #navit: <+jkoan> the tomtom build is finished, btw it took ~23mins and this is the time we dont have when we want to test if navit is compiling 
17:09 #navit: <+jkoan> you can find it here: https://hub.docker.com/r/navit/tomtom-ng/
17:13 #navit: < genesis> oki
17:13 #navit: < genesis> now you have just to update to 18.04 ^^
17:13 #navit: < genesis> or perhaps just compile recent cmake in this docker. 
17:17 #navit: <+jkoan> yep :)
17:19 #navit: < genesis> need some beers to finish updating crossenv for win32
17:19 #navit: < genesis> since mingw32 move to mingw64 and option for 32bits.
18:20 #navit: <+jkoan> genesis: tomtom update seems to be finished
18:20 #navit: <+jkoan> just switch the docker image for tomtom to tomtom-ng
19:15 #navit: < genesis> oki
19:15 #navit: < genesis> thx
19:17 #navit: < genesis> [100%] Built target images
19:17 #navit: < genesis> Exited with code 4
19:17 #navit: < genesis> on android , not more verbose on error :')
19:39 #navit: <+jkoan> do you have a log ?
19:40 #navit: < genesis> not much , https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/10950?utm_campaign=vcs-integration-link&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=github-build-link
19:41 #navit: < genesis> need to fix my paste command to have better log from ci
19:50 #navit: < genesis> anyway, if tomtom-ng is fine, oldest cmake is from wince that is :)
19:51 #navit: < genesis>  V3.2.0
19:52 #navit: < genesis> we get our number :)
20:07 #navit: <+jkoan> the log is really strange
20:23 #navit: < genesis> who use target win32 this days ?
20:24 #navit: < genesis> wince oki, cheap gps device on amazon, starting to 30$
20:24 #navit: < genesis> but win32 ?
20:28 #navit: <+jkoan> win32 is windows, so probably many
20:28 #navit: <+jkoan> but we dont want to switch to the runmymind/docker-android-sdk docker image for android
20:29 #navit: <+jkoan> and the rename command needs to get rid of .ul
20:36 #navit: < genesis> apparently that's the new scheme 
20:36 #navit: < genesis> since rename is the perl pkg
20:36 #navit: < genesis> i get the util-linux as preview one 
20:36 #navit: < genesis> and btw docker i get you can copy the dockerfile if you have time to maintain image
20:37 #navit: < genesis> we can lost a lot of time redo what others already done, i need to fix thing above all that, but can't on quicksand.
20:58 #navit: < genesis> circleci/android:api-27-alpha was not more navit that runmymind/docker-android-sdk
21:04 #navit: < genesis> i didn't choose the 28 one, was old too.
21:07 #navit: < genesis> this gpxsee, no glitch, qt well done, have to contact them
21:09 #navit: < genesis> if default target was our own docker, with all setup to all target , perhaps all be happy.
21:09 #navit: < genesis> and use it locally without effort.
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22:25 #navit: < genesis> stat: 18 of 39 open issues on navit is from aerostich
22:29 #navit: < genesis> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/425 all there.
22:29 #navit: < genesis> "hope nobody is seriously proposing that we discard the last 14 years of work"
22:29 #navit: < genesis> how is that work relevant. Not rational argument.
22:31 #navit: < genesis> let's me share a story, in the earliers days of linxux audio procucing, i start a website call 'studiolibre.org', try to make a quality cooperative website with information on how to set realtime audio software
22:32 #navit: < genesis> a people join, complain we have not a lot of article, and start to write a lot of low quality to zero quality
22:32 #navit: < genesis> and startup his website linuxmao.org
22:33 #navit: < genesis> i spoke with him about that his article was wrong and so
22:33 #navit: < genesis> he said me, i was right, but people can modify his article, and he get more attraction than our website
22:34 #navit: < genesis> and he knew that his article was wrong and bad down, kind of a strategy
22:35 #navit: < genesis> he played the "not right on the internet" syndrom quite well.
23:36 #navit: < genesis> you've to trust aerostich, that's how it works.
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