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[16:13:05] <kazer> hi
[16:13:31] <Navit> <05jkoan> Hi @KaZeR
[16:14:42] <kazer> 'sup jkoan ?
[16:15:49] <Navit> <05jkoan> Updating manjaro, but until now nothing else
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[16:53:16] <kazer> hey basilic_ !
[16:53:25] <basilic_> hey kazer 
[16:53:44] <basilic_> sorry for my last connection, I using my tab and it's very hard to write in english with it
[16:55:12] <basilic_> I will start to dev on navit
[16:56:04] <basilic_> restart in fact
[16:56:13] <basilic_> I need to re understand how compile it
[16:57:49] <kazer> well i'm glad to see you back here :)
[16:57:54] <kazer> let us know how we can help
[16:58:02] <kazer> what issues are you facing with compilation?
[16:58:19] <basilic_> I don't remember lol
[16:58:28] <basilic_> I thing I juste need make
[17:01:55] <genesis> yo kazer , do u have something in wip for navit this days ?
[17:02:12] <basilic_> okai now I remember my problem
[17:02:20] <basilic_> I start to enter a city name
[17:02:34] <basilic_> navit mask the imposible letter
[17:02:53] <basilic_> but the deplacement with arrows it's not correct
[17:03:10] <basilic_> like I have:
[17:03:11] <basilic_> b
[17:03:14] <basilic_> lmn
[17:03:18] <basilic_> rs u
[17:03:19] <basilic_> y
[17:03:23] <basilic_> I'm on b
[17:03:30] <basilic_> I go right
[17:03:39] <basilic_> I arrive on s
[17:03:56] <basilic_> right again on l
[17:04:24] <basilic_> it's a really strange methode
[17:04:49] <basilic_> and if I go back I do l->s->r-y
[17:06:15] <basilic_> diffuclt to navigate with arrow alone
[17:07:34] <basilic_> how I can get all modification in my github?
[17:08:52] <basilic_> I have clone a navit version last year
[17:09:00] <basilic_> or 2 years... maybe
[17:09:08] <basilic_> on the audio branche
[17:35:15] <kazer> genesis: just got back so i need to look at what's going on. Nothing that i can think of on top of my head
[17:35:50] <kazer> basilic_: first i'd recommend updating your branch. many things have changed since you forked :)
[17:35:53] <kazer> need help with that?
[17:40:19] <genesis> kazer : i'd advise you to have a look on cmake wince internal rules, switching from windowscetest to windowsce :)
[17:41:01] <genesis> a few fix would be avoid the need to embed zlib and libpng.
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[17:43:31] <kazer> jandegr: \o/
[17:43:42] <jandegr> hi kazer
[17:43:48] <kazer> genesis: do we already have a PR for that?
[17:44:07] <genesis> (same with windows, according to my test
[17:44:10] <genesis> not for wince
[17:45:06] <genesis> but it's documented in file https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/Toolchain/mingw.cmake#L7
[17:46:26] <genesis> and for win32 yes on the #777 i replied showing i succeed to build without zlib, just need a rules in the installer to copy zlib.dll .
[17:46:51] <genesis> (to be in some dll path finding i donno windows)
[17:46:56] <genesis> s/some/same
[17:48:08] <genesis> my 2 cents, if people follows this white rabbit, huge cleaning would happens;
[17:53:22] <jandegr> genisis it would have been interesting if either of the builds you posted in #777 actually worked :)
[17:54:40] <jandegr> at least if that was intended
[17:55:31] <basilic_> kazer, seems not update on the audio branch
[17:55:48] <basilic_> Yes I need help to update my git
[17:58:01] <genesis> jandegr : that was not intented, the 64bits with dynamic zlib you only need to copy in the binary path of navit solves one bug for me, the need to have old zlib in support directory
[17:59:01] <genesis> it shows how a single nix package file could solves many headache about shell script, docker and pile of software to make it happens
[17:59:56] <genesis> and if people are curious, they can begin to work on such amazing universe
[18:00:03] <jandegr> ok, it all turns around hattricks over here in the last 2 years, content and functionality are not important anymore, what crap
[18:00:28] <kazer> jandegr: i would beg to disagree
[18:01:01] <genesis> i spent weeks to debug navit , a software i've never seend working
[18:01:10] <genesis> sorry to always work on cleaning stuff
[18:02:41] <kazer> guys, chill out. cleaning up stuff is important, especially when your codebase is over 14 years old. There's stuff that isn't relevant anymore or could be improved
[18:04:30] <genesis> why wince toolchain can't be use on modern ubuntu
[18:04:56] <genesis> because their dependancies would be incompatible with actual needed one
[18:05:27] <genesis> on nix, the old librairie can't conflict because all version can be installed SAME time
[18:05:54] <kazer> same argument can be made about docker, but my intent isn't to troll
[18:06:05] <kazer> i think that jandegr's concern is that currently the build isn't working
[18:06:09] <genesis> yeap but docker is an entire FHS 
[18:06:43] <genesis> the store concept, you can find also on guix is the fix for many pb linux distro have
[18:07:31] <genesis> i understand kazer  , but which build is working, my proper package of navit is a bit mess.
[18:08:24] <genesis> but i'm happy, my latest commit solves the librairies neends of be patching by patchelf.
[18:08:47] <kazer> from your ticket : >  i succeed to build a working windows version and installer with nix, with dynamic loading of zlib1.dll and it fixed this error with zlib.
[18:08:53] <kazer> so you tested the resulting binary?
[18:09:00] <genesis> wine wine
[18:09:12] <genesis> s/wine/with
[18:10:29] <genesis> i don't have the zlib error message error:map_binfile:map_binfile_open:invalid file format for 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Navit/maps/munchen.bin'
[18:20:46] <kazer> i'm concerned that wine isn't completely representative of the test we need. let's see
[18:20:52] <genesis> btw jandegr i want to say you something, if i were a benevolant dictator of navit, i'd remove support directroy
[18:21:01] <kazer> basilic_: were you using the audio branch for a specific reason?
[18:21:41] <basilic_> for play musique but I think I will forget this idea
[18:21:41] <kazer> genesis: the support directory actually contains libs that have been slightly patched 
[18:22:08] <kazer> basilic_: well it works, i know from first hand experience :) i can update that branch for you
[18:22:31] <genesis> currently to let win developer the lazyness of not provide environment where the dependancies are available, we let linux people have the risk of compile againt this internals instead of detect the pb quickly
[18:22:46] <basilic_> kazer, do it :)
[18:23:18] <basilic_> I need most hardware modification for do it, but if it's possible I will do it
[18:23:54] <kazer> hardware mods? i'm trying to remember the details of your project but it was a long time ago :D
[18:24:16] <basilic_> yes
[18:24:33] <basilic_> my audio system use symetrique connexion
[18:24:43] <basilic_> for GPS
[18:24:44] <genesis> kazer what about  https://github.com/MaxKellermann/gcc ?
[18:25:27] <basilic_> I will need transforme raspberry pi audio to symetric for use the original audio système, and need asymetric for RCA input
[18:25:40] <kazer> genesis: looks interesting, if we can get a toolchain to build
[18:25:51] <genesis> seems to have libc
[18:25:56] <basilic_> but it's no a big problem just time to done it
[18:26:02] <kazer> basilic_: not sure i see what you mean for symetric vs asymetric
[18:26:37] <basilic_> the sound of RCA use ground and a signal
[18:26:45] <basilic_> it's asymétric connexion
[18:26:55] <basilic_> symetric use 2 line (and not ground)
[18:27:14] <basilic_> the audio system do the difference between the 2 line
[18:27:29] <basilic_> to recreate asymetric line
[18:27:34] <kazer> ha, i see
[18:28:12] <basilic_> it's for eliminate noise on the wire
[18:28:46] <basilic_> if a noise is create is symetric and it's eliminate 
[18:29:00] <basilic_> the 2 line of symétrique connexion is oposite
[18:29:29] <basilic_> I don't see all for this moment
[18:29:35] <basilic_> but I need to do it for GPS voice
[18:29:57] <basilic_> the orignal GPS switch the front door conductor sound with the GPS voice
[18:30:30] <kazer> ha, i've seen that in a few car. it's really cool because it doesn't disrupt the music for the other passengers
[18:30:46] <basilic_> yes
[18:31:14] <basilic_> and when you remove the GPS unit the first time you search why you don't have music on your door
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[21:40:42] <genesis> homemade soap http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=56eea3035adf1a911184286ac3b157aa