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[00:23:53] *** Quits: Horwitz (~mich1@p200300EC9BC3DF00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [00:29:47] *** Quits: naggety (~naggety@246.red-95-125-37.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [00:30:10] *** Joins: naggety (~naggety@244.red-80-27-200.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) [00:36:59] *** Joins: Horwitz (~mich1@p200300EC9BC2E100022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [00:37:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Horwitz [01:27:40] thanks @viktorgino. i have 2 adapters, both quite cheap. one is a elm327 over serial, the other one elm327 over bluetooth [01:28:00] my jeep's bus was quite slow, and they were able to dump all the can traffic without issues [01:28:39] on my ford, the bus is too fast or broadcasting too many messages and i'm getting a buffer full from the device [01:29:36] the mcp2515 isn't bad for a price of $25, and i have a level shifter in a box somewhere. i'll give it a try i think [01:30:02] is this one exposing a true canbus interface on the linux side? or just a serial port? 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[09:04:56] thats the problem [09:05:01] i can't access the files [09:05:05] on the tomtom [09:05:16] and the screen is decalibrated [09:27:18] @KaZeR i would try to set the baud rate on the elm327 to 115200 and maybe try other protocols [09:28:52] i had a jaguar that was basically a ford (older one tho) and that used j1850 for a lot of the auxiliary things [09:29:27] just realised that the mcp2515 adapter I linked is way too expensive [09:29:41] I got 10 of them for £10 from china [09:30:06] but you can find them on ebay etc for a lot cheaper, its the same board as the one on amazon [09:31:07] Hi all [09:31:45] and yes it will be seen as a socketcan device by linux, so you can read/write to /dev/canX [09:32:49] jandegr: you told me that it won't work very well to process 2 different pieces of map with maptool to generate 2 different binfiles, and then using them together in a mapset. You sugested to join them with osmtools or similar and then processing them. It actually worked for me. [09:34:08] However, what can I expect of getting 2 binfiles using Navit's planet extractor and using them together? In your experience it normally works well? It's working for me for one test I've done, but I don't know if it is always the case. [09:34:10] can somebody help me [09:34:30] gernot2 said me to use opentom as desktop environment for tomtom one 3rd edition [09:34:40] i did it and put a bin file on root [09:34:50] but navit isn't working on the tomtom [09:34:55] i tried to telnet [09:34:59] but asks a username [09:35:11] and the screen is decalibrated [09:35:31] And one request for anybody (kazer, jkoan?): it would be possible to add a new predefined area in planet extractor? [09:36:20] i think yes [09:37:01] I would like Canary Islands to be added. They're a region of Spain but are located far to the South, in front of Sahara, Africa. Because of this, rectangles defined for Europe or Spain doesn't include them. [09:54:56] naggety i think it would be cool, but it gets more space [09:55:21] i would also need that, but my tomtom is of 512 mb, so i just get the map for half catalonia [09:58:10] hackeinde: how much space do you have for maps? Because my maps size are these: Spain 590MB, Portugal 140Mb...Catalonia should fit complete, at least [09:59:51] extracted map of Canary Island are 160Mb. However, what I want is to offer it as a separate download, at least. Offering it as part of Europe or Spain would increase a lot the rectangles, taking a big part of Africa. [10:00:59] The same could be done with the islands belonging to Portugal [11:12:02] catalonia is only 215, at least the area i want [11:12:06] center barcelona [11:14:19] i have submited canarias [11:14:30] It would be interesting to see if it's possible to generate lighter maps, maybe striping POIs or other data less relevant [11:14:43] i cant access my tomtom [11:14:48] the fs [11:15:42] Oh, thanks [11:16:05] hey [11:16:15] are you also from spain [11:16:23] yes, from Pamplona [11:16:44] yo tmbien [11:17:00] bueno yo de bcn [11:18:11] does someone know how to access the tomtom?? i can't access opentom drive [11:18:50] Qué bueno! Pues es que estamos desarrollando un dispositivo para un cliente que incluye navegador GPS. Como sé qué vende a clientes Canarios, me estoy anticipando a las quejas :p [11:20:09] jajaja que cbrn [11:20:33] puedes usar una raspberry pi con el modulo de gps [11:20:41] le dices que es un ordenador entero [11:20:50] le cobras unos 120 [11:21:02] porque tambien le compras una pantalla tactil y carcassa [11:21:50] o el compute module [11:21:53] que vale menos [11:22:06] ojalá hubiera sido tan sencillo, menudo proyectazo hemos desarrollado. Incluye cámaras, radio, audio, doble pantalla táctil (de 10'' y 7'')... [11:22:16] bluetooth... [11:22:49] es dispositivo desde cero (o sea fabricandolo todo) [11:23:40] Sí. Lo que sí le hemos montado es el módulo Olimex-A20. Que para el caso es casi como una Raspberry Pi, pero tenía algunas cosas que necesitábamos. [11:24:05] lo estoy mirando [11:24:19] esta guapo [11:24:24] y barato [11:25:00] Y procesador chino...con mal soporte de kernel, drivers....xD [11:25:24] bueno como lo que hace apple, guapo por fuera, malo por dentro [11:26:16] oye las baterias son compatibles con la raspberry pi? a lo mejor me lo compro, por que tengo la raspberry enchufada todo el rato y no me lo puedo llevar a otro sitio [11:26:57] bueno se llaman olinuxino [11:27:00] xino [11:27:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/603548793249726484/unknown.png [11:28:34] a que me regalais uno de esos dispositivos [11:28:58] No sé. Nosotros usamos el industrial, el A20-SOM, y no usamos baterías [11:29:55] esto? [11:29:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/603549428426473492/unknown.png [11:30:24] perdon [11:30:28] me refiero a esto [11:30:32] https://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM/A20/A20-SOM/ [11:30:40] eso si [11:30:55] a que me regalais un dispositivo gps [11:33:42] Quién? Mi empresa? [11:34:11] bueno tu (tu eres de la empresa, no?) [11:35:18] Con la pasta que valen, bastante tendré con conseguir uno para mi justificando que es para pruebas xD [11:36:09] cuanto valdra? [11:36:57] bueno dew me voy [11:37:19] agur [13:18:15] *** Joins: gernot2 (bc637313@dslb-188-099-115-019.188.099.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [13:19:13] hackeinde : The username is "root" [13:19:21] That it ask is verry good [13:23:35] The hard way to get the files is to connect usb to the PC and press the little reset Button. [13:28:27] soft way to access the filesystem: [13:28:35] connect to PC [13:28:50] telnet 192.168.1.10 [13:28:53] roor [13:29:14] sorry last line is root [13:29:18] cd [13:29:28] bin/reboot [13:31:43] *** Quits: naggety (~naggety@244.red-80-27-200.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [13:33:46] I show it with pastebin.... [13:38:51] https://pastebin.com/dCcWsExN [13:45:05] i forgot to say that i think i'm one of the last opentom users :-) [14:46:36] Tomtom navitscreen black -> I load a optimized configuration for my TTXL. Your Display is smaller so remove my configuration line. [14:47:04] The line to remove is in opentom/bin/navit.sh : [14:47:33] NAVIT_CONFIG=$DIST/share/navit/navit272.xml [14:48:21] Then adjust the path to the map. [14:49:44] The path is in opentom/share/navit/navit.xml [14:51:21] The path for the map is defined to data="$NAVIT_SHAREDIR/maps/*.bin"/> [14:51:47] I can help to change this. [15:55:03] possible bad nws: https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/1112782/tomtom-no-gps-signal-2019 [15:55:54] till now i got no GPS location with opentom..... making further tests. [16:00:26] Now after a long time i got a position. All OK with TT one [16:00:31] hi there [16:00:36] hi [16:02:36] kazer navit on tomtom is hard :-) [16:05:54] hard to install or hard to fix/troubleshoot? [16:06:16] i haven't read the backlog yet :) [16:06:50] > I load a optimized configuration for my TTXL [16:07:02] i am wondering if we could pull the display information from navit [16:12:54] opentom is well to debug. [16:13:34] But with bad calibrated display [16:14:30] Now i Posted how ti log in. There are many tools like ps,vi, ftp, netcat, strace [16:15:10] But i have the problen that i get only all 20 minutes a new GPS position. [16:15:35] May be that the Chipset is broken by the "time" [16:15:42] rolover [16:16:29] now loading original TT ....to test [16:18:47] The main problem is that some parts of the Build environment frozen at 2008 [16:22:43] I have also a TT730 which use an other GPS Chipset. I test it the next days. [16:25:58] Very bad.... Original Tomtom one XL, Global Hammerhead v1 All 15 minutes GPS for 20 seconds. [16:26:41] Can anybody second this? May be my device or all devices are broken. [16:53:37] gernot2: which image are you using? something that you built yourself? [16:54:07] in the "navitom" build there is a touchscreen calibration tool. unless you really meant the display, and not the touchscreen? [16:54:09] jes, built self. [16:54:29] ok. aside from navit, do you need other apps on your device? [16:54:48] The Inage contain a calibration tool. [16:55:30] There many other programms on the device. Its a opentom environment. [16:57:03] (complete microwin, shell, Keybord bluetooth dosbox. and many more [16:57:27] yes but as you mentioned it's not really maintained, and getting that to build was getting cumbersome [16:59:07] My build setup is a 4 year old virtual machine. There i had some help [16:59:55] But the GPS base om a binary from Tomtom [17:08:46] So the GPS problem is not to solve in navit oder opentom. [17:44:09] could you try this archive ? https://15249-30791823-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/output/navitom_minimal.zip [17:50:07] navit minimal dont work on my tomtom. [17:50:46] There was a update which makes the integration impossible. [17:51:06] This was why i made the way about opentom [17:51:18] update on navit you mean? i know that there is an issue with one of the ttsystem file we build [17:51:41] we build 2 files (one for plugin and one for minimal) and one might be broken [17:52:03] No, Tomtom chenged the internal structure to bind a extension [17:53:12] mmh. navit minimal is built in an approach very similar to the vanilla opentom so it's surprising [17:53:26] jkoan would know better than me about this I think though [17:54:15] the minimal version can integrate to opentom, while the plugin can integrate in very old tomtom devices. [17:54:50] A software update from tomtom break the Plugin [17:55:36] I have minimal installed on my TT730 [17:56:20] I can test with TT730 at the weekend [17:58:18] Now i write navit logfiles to check the NMEA date. [17:59:39] Its 08 12 99. [18:00:10] I think navit dont check this. so that is not the problem [18:08:36] I wrote a script that integrate the navit-minimal in the opentom environment. [18:29:39] The NMEA logfiles walking around look good. So i dont know what the problem is. But i am sure it is not a navit problem [18:34:16] so the nmea log files contain all valid data excepted for the date? [18:34:44] is your device using the passthrough daemon, gltt ? [18:35:43] The date filed is fix year 99 $GPRMC,181454.51,A,4808.756331,N,01131.939825,E,000.0,318.0,081299,,,A*59 [18:35:59] yes. gltt is the problem [18:37:56] but all positions are marked valid:$GPGGA,181454.51,4808.756331,N,01131.939825,E,1,06,1.0,580.0,M,-2.875000,M,-0.02 [18:38:51] I try to check with an other device... 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