[00:10:15] *** Quits: Horwitz (~mich1@p200300EC9BFDA600022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:22:34] *** Joins: Horwitz (~mich1@p200300EC9BC1EC00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [00:22:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Horwitz [03:59:01] *** Joins: xenos1984 (~xenos1984@e546-b8a6-288b-b0bb-d480-87c4-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee) [03:59:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v xenos1984 [06:53:03] @aerostitch do you have time today to do the rc1 of 0.5.4? I would like to do it, with you as a guide :) [08:01:37] *** Quits: Navit (~Navit@ec2-34-214-224-248.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:01:42] *** Joins: Navit1 (~Navit@ec2-34-214-224-248.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) [08:01:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Navit1 [08:02:34] *** Navit1 is now known as Navit [10:58:04] kazer: who has admin rights on https://www.transifex.com/navit-project/navit/ they have a really really nice github integration(including automatic pull requests) and many authorisation services on github.com/jkoan/navit I tried it, and it works really well. This would mean we could get rid of launchpad. Last weekend I used it and nearly ever time I had a gateway timeout, so annoying [14:44:12] hi there [14:44:27] hi kazer [14:44:41] do you have some time today? :D [14:45:47] maybe a bit [14:45:55] perfect :-) [14:45:59] i have admin on transiflex. i tested it a couple of years ago [14:46:24] i tested it today, and i think it will perfectly fit our needs [14:46:43] the GH integration is nice, but the downside (at least at that time) was that basically there was no community to help translate various projects. we've had several hundreds of people help on launchpad [14:47:36] yeah, back then launchpad was probaly also stable and not down for like 5mins after you saved one tiny translation [14:47:44] haha [14:47:59] you see the big point? [14:48:43] i do. do you see mine? if the people contributing to transiflex are just the people from navit, it won't work. we won [14:48:50] 't be able to update most of the languages [14:51:14] but they also have quick login links for facebook, twitter, github, linkedin and google plus so we can probablly "teach" our users to do translation because it is way simpler then on launchpad [14:54:20] but a side from the translation tool, what do you think about translating the documentation (read the docs) as well? For german my girlfriend and i would volunteer [14:59:32] > they also have quick login links for facebook, twitter, github, linkedin and google plus [14:59:55] that's convenient, but if they don't have a community of people who like to help on translations, it will be problematic [15:00:20] most of the people who contributed to navit translations were not users. just people who like to help translating FOSS projects [15:00:39] regarding the documentation, it's a good idea. I think that there's a way to leverage that natively with readthedocs [15:01:49] at least we could try to post more on twitter, facebook and probably also google play, to convince people to help with simple things ;) [15:02:56] absolutely [15:03:10] don't get me wrong, there are many things that i find very annoying with launchpad. i [15:03:31] i'd love to use something else. but without a community of translators, it's useless [15:04:04] yes, i totaly get this :D but we need to make the move before people will join [15:04:45] what we can do is setup some kind of bridge, but until we do get contributions i don't think that it's wise changing the reference [15:08:49] i think it would be because when people are coming to navit to fix a translation and go to launchpad, and even if they register, they are greeted with an unintuitive and technical horible translation solution, i mean really if you try to save something if crashes and you need to wait and reload 5mins to get to the next page to let is crash again [15:09:42] btw: do i got twitter access some day in the past, right now, i dont have it in my app, but could also be because of me [15:09:55] i know i have access to facebook [15:47:29] *** Joins: gernot2 (bc6ea70b@dslb-188-110-167-011.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [15:47:36] hi. [15:48:14] just noticed that the map version of planetextractor is 190926 [15:48:32] Is this ok or is this a old map? [16:17:16] *** Joins: jandegr (d5dbb2bb@213.219.178.187.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) [16:17:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v jandegr [16:17:38] Hi Gernot, as far as I know the map which is served in the mapserver is build every day. But this is not the version of the maptool used [16:52:15] *** Quits: gernot2 (bc6ea70b@dslb-188-110-167-011.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:08:05] *** Joins: gernot2 (bc6ea70b@dslb-188-110-167-011.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [17:08:19] thanks, I get a map and test... [17:12:48] i think it's built every wednesday actually [17:18:17] I want to try the splitted big polygons. [17:18:38] Tomto is the ideal test environment for it [17:18:55] got some tomtom and wince available [17:19:16] wince is more easy to test for me :D [17:19:28] jkoan want try opentom? [17:19:32] just because i have no tomtom working right now [17:19:47] opentom or NavitTom? ^^ [17:20:07] opentom with navit installed [17:20:44] (actual trunk) [17:21:35] wait a moment, need to see what i can do, but why isn't wince a good test? [17:22:59] I think wince is also good, but my TT730 work better then my wince (Becker) [17:23:08] both 64KB [17:23:20] KB or MB? [17:23:31] MB [17:23:38] ;.) [17:23:40] :) [17:28:45] when running a device what should i test? [17:35:01] just scroll. in my case (bayern) it is the Caspian Sea which is imported in a deep map layer and slow down by factor 10 [17:35:07] i can process some maps for you guys if you want. Just let me know if i need to use a specific branch for the maptool code [17:36:21] @kazer it is not maptool, It is what planetextractor makes out of it. [17:36:54] splitted big polygons : isn't that a change in maptool? [17:37:11] e.g. A self converted geofabrik export dont contain the caspian sea [17:39:19] so two tests (on old map version (planet extractor), one with self converted map) which is the expected result? [17:40:11] I tested that well. [17:40:26] self converted work well. [17:40:47] planet extractor witout multipolygon work alo well [17:40:50] then what shall i test? [17:41:20] planet extractor with mutypoligon slow down. [17:41:49] Now i want to test planet extractor with split mutypoligon [17:42:15] multipolygon... [17:44:15] but that whould be exactly as kazer said a change in m,aptool, so where is the change if there are no changes in maptool? [17:45:27] The change is in maptool used by planetextractor [17:45:47] maptool local use makes no problem [17:47:30] Just tried it. The actual map contain the caspian sea in a deep layer. [17:47:54] so the real test would be a local converted map versus a map locally extracted from a own map extract [17:48:15] yes [17:48:25] just done [17:49:14] so nothing to test for me? [17:49:49] I wait for the next map from planetextractor [17:50:31] probably kazer can say us if i will be processed by the right maptool version? [17:51:40] last time maptool was changed the planetextractor map was converted by the new. [17:51:57] ah okay [17:52:02] I thin this is automatic [17:52:21] k [17:53:01] i dont remember for sure but i think kazer did some changes/updates on that, so don't know [19:42:01] Hi all, can someone help me on troubleshooting an issue with Navit on Raspberry CarPC project? [19:42:58] Hi @sudo007 :) what problem did you encounter? [19:43:38] I get a blank (black) screen when I click on navigation [19:45:03] I can confirm: I have placed map1.bin file in the desired location and GPS dongle (USB) is connected..although I am indoor now and connected the Pi to my desktop via HDMI [19:45:44] tried these steps: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/engineeringdiy/navit-does-not-display-t379.html but no success [19:47:41] You said you are using the "raspberry CarPC project" do you have a link to that project, I currently don't know such a project as a pre-made image, or is it self made? [19:49:31] https://christian-brauweiler.de/carpi-2016-step-by-step-anleitung/ [19:50:31] Ah, I've already seen this post [19:51:08] Do you have a terminal access to the raspberry? [19:51:33] yes [19:53:23] Are you familiar with Linux or are you more into windows topics, asking only to know hoch much guidance I need to give [19:54:06] I can run basic Linux commands [19:55:16] Okay, what happens when running navit from command line without additional parameters? Do you get some output? [19:56:45] navit:main_real:Loading /etc/navit/navit.xml navit:navit_set_attr_do:setting osd_configuration to 1 (was -1) (process:10160): Gtk-WARNING : Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. (navit:10160): Gtk-WARNING : cannot open display: [19:56:49] this is what I get [19:57:45] Try "export DISPLAY=:0" without quotes and rerun navit [19:58:39] If not working as well try =:1 as well :D [19:59:52] should I run that command as an additional parameter or what? [20:00:59] enter it as command and then navit as the next. [20:01:23] Two commands, first run the export command, this sets a variable and let other newly started processes inherent the variable [20:05:35] OK, when you say rerun navit - do i have to kill the process and then run? [20:06:21] Yes, but within the same terminal window [20:06:57] navit should stop automatic after this message: cannot open display: [20:09:14] I tried both export DISPLAY=:0 and 1, and then navit, but still getting this error.. [20:09:32] pi@raspberrypi:~ $ export DISPLAY=:0 pi@raspberrypi:~ $ navit navit:main_real:Loading /etc/navit/navit.xml navit:navit_set_attr_do:setting osd_configuration to 1 (was -1) (process:6785): Gtk-WARNING : Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. (navit:6785): Gtk-WARNING : cannot open display: :0 [20:09:33] is X running? [20:10:49] As I need to leave soon, can you Gernot help sudo007 to continue? [20:10:58] ps fax shows a line like "689 tty7 Ssl+ 4:48 \_ /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg" [20:11:14] sorry, have to leave soon [20:11:29] np guys, I'll be back in about 10 hours from now... [20:11:40] u can try to help me then [20:12:17] Sounds good [20:14:30] Im not sure that gtk is the right graphic driver. Sometime sdl is used. [20:16:48] I use Sdl most of the time as well ^^ [20:17:06] But need to leave now, see you [20:17:46] i modified the gui.xml file to use gtk and disable internal [20:17:50] paste the output of "ps fax" to see ehich graphics are running [20:18:19] disabled you sdl graphics? [20:18:41] gtk is a graphics system and a gui. [20:19:12] gui: internal or gtk [20:19:20] gtk [20:20:18] what was the original graphic line in the config? [20:21:03] [20:21:15] and [20:21:21] this is the gui line, not the graphics line [20:21:55] sorry, I do not know the difference; where can I find the graphics line? [20:22:37] ' ' [20:22:42] or [20:23:19] "sdl2" [20:23:53] OK this line is in another file - navit.xml [20:23:57] [20:24:11] It is a problem if you changed this line. No problem if you dont changed it [20:24:34] no I did not [20:25:20] using a configfile with other graphics then shipped is also a problem. [20:26:11] it is because gtk need X as basis [20:26:58] i have to leave. Check this tomorrow... [20:27:26] sure, thank you 🙂 [20:28:14] by [20:28:19] *** Quits: gernot2 (bc6ea70b@dslb-188-110-167-011.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Quit: gernot2) [20:33:54] please check this log file once u return..I guess its generated after using the export command [20:34:28] [ 30.561] X.Org X Server 1.18.4 Release Date: 2016-07-19 [ 30.580] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 30.587] Build Operating System: Linux 4.4.26-v7+ armv7l Raspbian [ 30.593] Current Operating System: Linux raspberrypi 4.9.35-v7+ #1014 SMP Fri Jun 30 14:47:43 BST 2017 armv7l [ 30.593] Kernel command line: 8250.nr_uarts=1 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1024 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=768 bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 [20:34:28] vc_mem.mem_base=0x3dc00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x3f000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait fbcon=map:10 fbcon=font:ProFont6x11 logo.nologo [ 30.621] Build Date: 11 November 2016 11:59:59AM [ 30.627] xorg-server 2:1.18.4-2+rpi1 (https://www.debian.org/support) [ 30.634] Current version of pixman: 0.33.3 [ 30.647] Before [20:34:29] reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 30.647] Markers: (--) probed, () from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 30.676] (==) Log file: "/home/pi/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Oct 22 01:45:10 2019 [ 30.690] (==) Using [20:34:29] config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 30.697] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 30.705] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 30.705] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 30.705] () |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 30.705] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [ 30.712] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen [20:34:30] Section". Using the first device section listed. [20:34:33] [ 30.712] (**) | |-->Device "Allwinner A10/A13/A20 FBDEV" [ 30.713] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 30.713] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 30.713] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 30.713] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [ 30.713] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1fffff [ 30.716] (WW) [20:34:34] The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [ 30.716] Entry deleted from font path. [ 30.716] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist. [ 30.716] Entry deleted from font path. [ 30.716] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist. [ 30.716] Entry deleted from font path. [ 30.716] ( [20:35:14] [ 30.717] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, built-ins [ 30.717] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" [ 30.717] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [20:35:15] [ 30.718] (II) Loader magic: 0x54d78f20 [ 30.718] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 30.719] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 30.719] X.Org Video Driver: 20.0 [ 30.719] X.Org XInput driver : 22.1 [ 30.719] X.Org Server Extension : 9.0 [ 30.724] (--) using VT number 2 [ 30.724] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind [20:35:15] integration [ 30.724] (II) no primary bus or device found [ 30.725] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 30.726] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 30.751] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 30.751] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 1.0.0 [ 30.751] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0 [ 30.751] (==) AIGLX enabled [ 30.751] (II) LoadModule: "fbturbo" [ [20:35:16] 30.752] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbturbo_drv.so [ 30.753] (II) Module fbturbo: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 30.753] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 0.5.1 [ 30.753] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 30.753] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [ 30.753] (II) FBTURBO: driver for framebuffer: fbturbo [ 30.753] (EE) Fatal server error: [ 30.767] (EE) [20:35:16] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 2 (Permission denied) [ 30.777] (EE) [ 30.784] (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. [ 30.811] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/home/pi/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. [ 30.818] (EE) [ 30.826] (WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor [ 30.826] (WW) [20:35:17] xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor [ 30.826] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. [20:53:01] *** Quits: jandegr (d5dbb2bb@213.219.178.187.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [22:17:41] *** Quits: xenos1984 (~xenos1984@e546-b8a6-288b-b0bb-d480-87c4-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee) (Quit: Leaving.)