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[11:23:22] <ilovekiruna> hi all
[11:47:39] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Hi there.
[12:14:26] <ilovekiruna> hi C.H.~$
[13:44:45] <Navit> <jkoan> hi all
[13:44:52] <Navit> <jkoan> hi @ilovekiruna
[14:36:21] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> hi jkoan
[14:36:57] <ilovekiruna> jkoan, how are you doing with hackoberfest?
[14:37:18] <Navit> <jkoan> still zero PRs 😄
[14:37:32] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> I am a little better
[14:37:33] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> 1
[14:38:13] <ilovekiruna> btw: how well do you know our navigation / tracking algorithm?
[14:38:36] <Navit> <jkoan> only a little
[14:40:08] <ilovekiruna> wir verwenden dort nur GPS, oder?
[14:40:20] <ilovekiruna> or do we use different systems?
[14:40:29] <ilovekiruna> like glonass, galileo, etc.?
[14:42:36] <Navit> <jkoan> we only use position data, but it supported by the vehicle plugin its not relevant fropm which source. But currently no acceleration or such. Alsready thought about this for situations like tunnels, or lane super, or even little things like "did the driver got into the exit"
[14:43:09] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> that was my idea, as i look right now a bit on particle filters
[14:43:20] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> maybe i could also think a bit about things there
[14:43:40] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> once I also have implemented it for my research
[14:45:29] <Navit> <jkoan> hm, probably the buggest issue for that is our internal api which handles data flow and the distribution of it...
[14:46:30] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> from what you say, I understand such things should go to the vehicle plugin, right?
[14:49:02] <Navit> <jkoan> jep, the only issue is that only psition is supported, and navit is really much tied to the update rate of the vehicle plugin to refres certen paths of data. (For example the screen refresh) and there isn't any interpolation done at all between the on Hz Messages
[14:51:35] <ilovekiruna> then I can have a look there at least :-)
[14:52:22] <ilovekiruna> can we also count language additions as hacktoberfest?
[14:52:59] <Navit> <jkoan> you mean translations? or what?
[14:53:06] <ilovekiruna> yes
[14:53:22] <ilovekiruna> translations
[14:53:58] <Navit> <jkoan> not really, tranlations are done on launchpad and theres no way to generate a PR from that
[14:54:23] <ilovekiruna> but those need to be merged into the github repo again ;-)
[14:54:55] <Navit> <jkoan> fpr the vehicle plugins you can look at the geoclue plugin i did in the last time: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/compare/vehicle_geoclue
[14:55:12] <ilovekiruna> cool, will have a look
[14:56:44] <Navit> <jkoan> i will probably finish my svg_debug plugin and the geoclue thing, even thoght i couldnt reproduce the error at #1032
[14:56:46] <ilovekiruna> jkoan, I could have a look again on swedish and dutch
[14:58:04] <Navit> <jkoan> sounds good to me, tranlation optimisation is always great
[14:58:51] <Navit> <jkoan> another good idea is to move the wiki to read the docs (docs folder in repo) one topic at a time
[15:00:00] <Navit> <jkoan> heres the ive version: navit.rtfd.io
[15:00:06] <Navit> <jkoan> http.//navit.rtfd.io
[15:00:13] <Navit> <jkoan> http://navit.rtfd.io
[15:01:08] <ilovekiruna> am looking now at translations
[15:01:20] <ilovekiruna> some strings seem a bit weird
[15:01:31] <ilovekiruna> do we also have the help messages in there?
[15:05:43] <Navit> <jkoan> i think so
[15:08:11] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> actually I notice that some of my friends help would be really helpful
[15:08:20] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> in indian languages we are doing pretty bad :-(
[15:21:40] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> I think the only meaningful language i could contribute myself is swedish again
[15:22:32] <Navit> <samor> hello everyone, I have some newbie questions, but forum looks dead, do someone have some time to help me?
[15:23:09] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> feel free to ask here
[15:23:19] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> but sometimes answers can take a while ;-)
[15:25:41] <Navit> <samor> thanks;) I have navit on raspberry and wrote simple program to gather GPS from Android (app from store) and save to file, but I have really big delay, like 2 minutes. Is it correlated with sync with time or something like that?
[15:42:11] <ilovekiruna> samor, i think we need to wait for someone else to answer, at least I have honestly no clue
[15:42:32] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Good evening.  Im trying to do a few changes in a layout.   And was wondering, if anyone could point me to the element that defines roads, as well as the highlighted route for navigation.
[15:43:02] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> good evening, I believe you should have a look in the navit.xml file
[15:43:16] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> or any other file included in that xml file
[15:43:30] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> there I think we have all the visual things
[15:45:18] <Navit> <C.H:~$> I was able to change water / lakes and rivers, directly in the layout.xml But i didnt really have any luck with the roads so far.
[15:49:24] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> I have to admit I never played with that, so cant tell you much more :-(
[15:49:42] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> C.H.: do you have some suggestion for samor?
[15:54:40] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Hmm, im not sure its really clear to me what the issue is @samor .  Where is the file? how is the gps data transfered ?
[15:59:31] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> @jkoan , I hope this weekend I manage to get for all untranslated swedish expression a unreviewed translation
[16:00:30] <Navit> <C.H:~$> @ilovekiruna I just want to do some changes, to the roads for example, as well as highlighted path for navigation, in Car-Dark layout they are way to dark, atleast for something like a 7" screeen.
[16:05:52] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> @C.H:~$: have you tried to find the difference between the layouts? maybe that could help
[16:06:35] <Navit> <samor> > Hmm, im not sure its really clear to me what the issue is @samor . >  > Where is the file? how is the gps data transfered ? @C.H:~$ file is in /home/pi/gps.txt, now I checked, and there is no delay in writing to file, it's almost immediately. Data is send over bluetooth, and when received, save to file with newline. In navit.xml I have source="file:/home/pi/gps.txt" follow="1"). For purpose of testing I used
[16:06:35] <Navit> powerbank as Pi power source, maybe it's not enough to run navit in live.
[16:08:56] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Is the file made available for reading by all sources? So there is no conflict there?  Im the wrong person to answer Navit specific questions yet.
[16:13:59] <Navit> <samor> Yes it is, maybe NMEA string have timestamp, and navit refreshes position when time equals this timestamp, but I don't know, need to read code. Maybe meanwhile someone will read this, and will know an answer.
[16:17:22] <ilovekiruna> C.H: you were from finland, right?
[16:17:34] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Correct
[16:17:53] <ilovekiruna> could i interest you to contribute to our finnish translation?
[16:18:01] <ilovekiruna> I am right now working on the swedish one :-)
[16:20:04] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Why not, If there is no pressure with deadlines : )
[16:20:11] <ilovekiruna> ofc not
[16:20:46] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Count me in : )
[16:21:06] <ilovekiruna> would be also nice if you could review my poor swedish translations ;-P
[16:21:20] <ilovekiruna> there is a lot to review now
[16:21:44] <Navit> <C.H:~$> Affirm : ) I can do that, are these xml files as well ?
[16:21:56] <ilovekiruna> we do the translation on launchpad
[16:22:03] <ilovekiruna> https://translations.launchpad.net/navit
[16:23:02] <Navit> <jkoan> > thanks;) I have navit on raspberry and wrote simple program to gather GPS from Android (app from store) and save to file, but I have really big delay, like 2 minutes. Is it correlated with sync with time or something like that? @samor is problem is with the android-app or with navit?
[16:23:41] <Navit> <jkoan> oh sorry, missed that
[16:25:38] <Navit> <jkoan> okay @samor do you know if the cpu is maxed out, probably the pi is overloaded?
[16:28:18] <Navit> <samor> unfortunately I don't know, didn't look for that, I will try with better power source
[16:41:54] <Navit> <samor> and another question, how to get rid of that?
[16:41:54] <Navit> <samor> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/764528141455851541/unknown.png