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00:19 < Mineque> gn guys
00:19 < antenna1> n8
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09:12 < Mineque> hi
09:13 < woglinde> hi minque
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09:37 < Mineque> woglinde: hi, i've noticed you often doesnt like first "e" letter :P
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09:43 < dandor_> hi woglinde
09:44 < Mineque> hi dandor_
09:44 < dandor_> hi Mineque
09:54 < woglinde> hi dandor
09:56 < woglinde> dandor I looked at your patch and did it in a similar way
09:56 < woglinde> only problem I had is that the logging wasnt working anymore
09:56 < woglinde> but I will test it later with your patch
09:58 < woglinde> dandor btw. you can test gpsd with gps-fake somenmea.file
10:01 < dandor_> yes i can try it
10:01 < dandor_> woglinde, i also discovered another problem
10:02 < dandor_> when WATCH_NMEA flag is set in the call to gps_stream() unnecessary system load occures
10:03 < dandor_> since with current gps_stream(priv->gps, WATCH_ENABLE|WATCH_NMEA|WATCH_JSON, NULL); call
10:04 < dandor_> for each gps update vehicle_gpsd_callback() will be called once for for the json object and several times for each nmea lines
10:05 < dandor_> so maybe nmea stream and json stream should be separated and the navit framework should only be called from the nmea handler which will result one call per gps update to navit fw
10:07 < woglinde> hm yes nmea we only need for gpx or raw logging
10:08 < woglinde> dandor you have time for a patch?
10:08 < woglinde> ping kazer
10:09 < dandor_> i will need a couple of days since i'll be quite busy
10:09 < woglinde> okay
10:10 < woglinde> no problem
10:10 < woglinde> I think so long we can disable the hook and raw data
10:10 < woglinde> and using only json for position
10:11 < woglinde> I think there arent many gpsd 2.96 user yet and few will logging the raw the nme stream
10:11 < woglinde> I will make a patch later
10:12 < woglinde> hm anyone knows if I can login into trac with my wiki account again?
10:16 < dandor_> woglinde,  i don't know how recent gpsd is used on some embedded devices
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10:16 < dandor_> maybe some of them have older one
10:17 < woglinde> hm lo
10:17 < woglinde> ups *lol* I dont know offhand if we have gpsd 2.96 in oe yet
10:22 < woglinde> dandor hm didnt you commit the gtk image cache?
10:22 < woglinde> could you please close the ticket
10:27 < Mineque> i've noticed error with random image on main page
10:27 < Mineque> anybody?
10:27 < Mineque> at wiki
10:27 < woglinde> yes
10:28 < Mineque> ok
10:28 < woglinde> I mean yes I saw it
10:28 < Mineque> woglinde: you can login to trac
10:28 < Mineque> but have to give full wiki url
10:28 < Mineque> for your user
10:29 < woglinde> minque first login into wiki and than trac?
10:29 < Mineque> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Mineque
10:29 < Mineque> use that as user login
10:29 < Mineque> i think that yes
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10:30 < Mineque> yep it works
10:30 < Mineque> when logged to wiki
10:32 < woglinde> hm
10:33 < woglinde> seems not with opera mobile
10:33 < woglinde> or is there something changing on the openid login?
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10:42 < Mineque> login at wiki -> opendid login at trac -> logged
10:42 < Mineque> not trick or magic
10:42 < woglinde> okay so its a problem of opera mobile?
10:42 < Mineque> propably
10:42 < Mineque> w8 i'll check
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10:45 < woglinde> hm okay seems an android problem
10:45 < woglinde> webkit browser dont works too
10:45 < Mineque> i see that opera mobile doesnt display openid servers images
10:46 < Mineque> to you could choose "openid login" and paste url
10:46 < Mineque> had to reload page to see them
10:47 < Mineque> i've succesfully logged
10:47 < Mineque> but i've kept wiki tab
10:47 < Mineque> opended
10:47 < woglinde> args right I always forget which services is which
10:47 < Mineque> so it works at opera mobile for symbian ;)
10:47 < woglinde> thanks minque
10:48 < Mineque> np ;)
10:48 < woglinde> args forget the e again
10:48 < Mineque> hehe :D
10:48 < Mineque> i dont mind like here, but onther situation i wont get highlight ;)
10:59 < dandor_> Mineque, prv
11:04 < dandor_> woglinde,  i cannot close gtk cache ticket since since i cannot log in to trac with my userid
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11:17 < woglinde> dandor you can
11:18 < woglinde> dandor go to the last image
11:18 < Mineque> woglinde: already fixed ;)
11:18 < Mineque> i mean dandor_ logged ;P
11:18 < woglinde> okay
11:18 < woglinde> fine
11:18 < Mineque>           response immediately. Please use http://navit.pastebin.com for your pastes! Channel is logged : http://www.hentges.net/irclogs/%23navit/ Follow @NavitProject on
11:18 < Mineque> damm
11:18 < Mineque> we need to add info to topic
11:19 < Mineque> but no man with force to do it
11:19 < Mineque> ;]
11:19 < antenna1> dandor_ your bugfix worked!
11:20 < dandor_> antenna1, thanks for the feedback!
11:20 < woglinde> hm which patch?
11:21 < woglinde> speech cmdline?
11:21 < antenna1> woglinde: no, regarding ticket #815
11:21 < dandor_> woglinde, no,  background image toggling from command interface
11:21 < dandor_> :)
11:22 < woglinde> okay so another bug can be closed
11:22 < woglinde> fine
11:23 < woglinde> hrms my crappy dsline
11:23 < antenna1> woglinde: did you find a bug in svn 4459 regarding speech output?
11:23 < woglinde> antenna you found it
11:24 < antenna1> I just mentioned that there could be one, but I can't prove it
11:24 < woglinde> and didnt have time to check it
11:24 < woglinde> maybee this evening
11:24 < woglinde> after the other bugs
11:24 < antenna1> ok, thanks
11:29 < antenna1> dandor_ I tried to download only the changed files with svn up, but when I enter it, it tells me, that it just jumped the release and the path
11:30 < antenna1> so in fact it's not downloading anything, though there is a new version
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11:33 < SnouF> Hi
11:35 < SnouF> I created an android 480x800 layout, it's here : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD_Layouts#An_other_android_layout_800x480 but ... I don't speak 'and write) good english, please correct me ;)
11:35 < SnouF> ! KaZeR
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11:36 < Number6> woglinde: Pong
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11:48 < Mineque> SnouF: ?
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12:13 < arcomivi> hullo :)
12:27 < Number6> Hi, arcomivi
12:29 < arcomivi> hi Number6 :)
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13:12 < SnouF> Mineque, re !
13:15 < Mineque> SnouF: i see problem with portraint mode
13:15 < Mineque> route isnt displayed well
13:15 < Mineque> street name*
13:16 < SnouF> yes but ... "route des hautains de la Crotte" is very long name street !
13:17 < Mineque> like all french routes ;p
13:17 < Mineque> *street
13:17 < Mineque> btw "route de" is part of street name?
13:24 < SnouF> mmmh ... it's osm map and yes http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.270885&lon=6.101566&zoom=18
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13:32 < SnouF> I suggest to add an "text scrolling function" to navit :D
13:33 < woglinde> check the bugtracker
13:33 < woglinde> its already requested
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13:44 < SnouF> :)
13:49 < woglinde> gm rd
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13:56 < mc303> does navit on android support address search? is there a specific format one should follow in order to make address search work?
13:58 < woglinde> mc303 its work as good the osm data are and as good as we do the bounding box for your town
13:58 < SnouF> mmmh I'm use "cityname contryname" or "contryname cityname" and it's work
13:59 < mc303> does the order of the street name, city name and country matter?
13:59 < mc303> e.g. StreetName 5, Brussels, Belgium
13:59 < mc303> or
13:59 < mc303> Belgium, Brussels, StreetName 5
13:59 < mc303> or doesn't this matter?
13:59 < mc303> and do street numbers work? (e.g. for long streets with lots of numbers?)
14:01 < woglinde> street numbers dont works this well
14:01 < mc303> ok
14:01 < mc303> and does the order of street, city, country matter?
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14:12 < rd> hi wogline
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14:44 < rd> woglinde, I solved my rpath problem from yesterday night.
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14:44 < woglinde> fine
14:44 < woglinde> I googled a bit myself
14:45 < rd> Have now a debian dir which allows to build from navit svn checkout. Still need to build the navit_data deb on x86
14:53 < woglinde> hm
14:53 < woglinde> I used pini's source layout
14:53 < woglinde> because I dont like to ship png and glib in the src-deb
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15:24 < Mineque> korrosa show yourself!
15:24 < Mineque> ;p
15:27 < Number6> I was just about to do the same thing
15:27 < Mineque> :D
15:27 < woglinde> Number6 pong
15:27 < woglinde> Number6 cp15 build in a another feature for the sip button
15:28 < woglinde> could you test it on your ce device?
15:34 < Number6> woglinde: I'll test it on my WinMo device later, I'm currently in work :-(
15:34 < woglinde> sure
15:35 < rd> woglinde, what is a sip button?
15:36 < woglinde> rd the softkey on wince to show the wince kbd
15:38 < rd> aah, I though it opens automatically a SIP call, if you are lost and not even navit can help you anymore ;-)
15:41 < Mineque> lol
15:42 < Mineque> yeah calling navit localization support callcenter
15:42 < Mineque> :P
16:05 < antenna1> how can I can compile a new svn version without rendering images etc any time? I don't get it to work with svn up, it jumps the new versions
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16:11 < antenna1> do you compile everything for each installation?
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16:17 < xenos1984> hi everybody
16:18 < Mineque> hi xenos1984
16:19 < woglinde> hi xenos
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16:35 < korrosa> Someone called, Mineque, Number6 ?
16:35 < Mineque> korrosa: how long we can wait for for you!
16:35 < korrosa> :)
16:36 < woglinde> korrosa!
16:36 < woglinde> korrosa hm trac plugin for patch review would be very cool and helpfull
16:37 < korrosa> I guess so. I have no admin rights for trac though, so not sure how I can help?
16:37 < korrosa> You may be confusing me with the lord KaZeR
16:37 < woglinde> args
16:38 < Mineque> lol
16:38 < woglinde> kazer
16:38 < woglinde> damn
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16:38 < korrosa> I want the CIA plugins fixed though - I have no idea what's going on with tickets anymore!
16:40 < Number6> korrosa: Thanks for the 12 points in the Eurovision :-)
16:41 < korrosa> Which country am I representing now? Ah, yes, the UK. Jedward were robbed, but I thought Moldova perhaps out-Jedwarded Jedward!
16:41 < korrosa> I notice Ireland didn't return the compliment though...
16:42 < korrosa> Feckers.
16:42 < Number6> Our voting pattern was odd, to say the least
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16:50 < rd> wogline, in http://bokomoko.de/~rd/Maemo/freetype_2.3.9-1osso2+0m5.1/ is an updated freetype package. With that there is no need anymore to have two freetype libraries in the n900 memory.
16:50 < Mineque> hum what place poland got?
16:51 < Number6> They didn't get into the final
16:51 < Mineque> lol
16:52 < Mineque> nothing unexpected
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17:01 < dandor_> antenna1, hi
17:01 < antenna1> dandor_ hi
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17:02 < woglinde> re dandor
17:02 < dandor_> hi woglinde
17:02 < dandor_> antenna1, i saw you had problem with svn up
17:02 < antenna1> dandor_yep, can you help me?
17:03 < dandor_> how have you done the svn co for that sandbox before?
17:03 < dandor_> have you specified -rXXXX ?
17:04 < antenna1> yes
17:05 < dandor_> that will be the problem
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17:06 < antenna1> dandor_alright. So do  I need to do a normal update with co and then svn up will work again?
17:07 < dandor_> you will need a sandbox that is created without -rXXX
17:07 < dandor_> egzactly
17:07 < antenna1> korrosa: do you compile the whole thing or do you use svn update as well?
17:07 < antenna1> dandor_ thanks, man
17:07 < dandor_> maybe there is a way to remove stickiness to a revision
17:08 < dandor_> but i don't know it by heart
17:08 < dandor_> cheers!
17:08 < korrosa> antenna1: svn up
17:08 < korrosa> For a revision, I use svn up -r XXXX
17:08 < korrosa> I think....
17:12 < rd> dandor_, your commit brings elevation support to the maemo vehicle.
17:12 < dandor_> if you need the head revision you may try  svn up -r 'HEAD'
17:12 < rd> I built 4493
17:12 < rd> worked well.
17:12 < woglinde> rd gtk or qt?
17:13 < rd> gtk
17:14 < woglinde> okay I will apply now the maemo vehicle patch
17:14 < dandor_> rd thanks for testing
17:14 < rd> I hit one packaging/hildon issue though: I cannot start from the menu and the navit icon disappeared. Starting from the command line works well.
17:14 < rd> dandor_, thanks for providing the patch :-)
17:14 < dandor_> :)
17:15 < woglinde> so the patch is from dandor
17:15 < woglinde> good to know
17:15 < woglinde> for the credits
17:16 < rd> yes, but I hope I mentioned that before, I did not want to steal credits ;-)
17:16 < woglinde> no you hasnt
17:16 < woglinde> but its okay
17:17 < woglinde> oh dandor already commited it
17:17 < woglinde> hm okay
17:18 < rd> woglinde, do you have an idea about the navit menu icon not showing up anymore?
17:18 < rd> And navit only starting from the command line?
17:19 < woglinde> hm maybee you messed up the service file
17:19 < woglinde> or the icon isnt there
17:20 < woglinde> I made a hack to make the navit icon the right size
17:24 < antenna1> korrosa: I have a folder with tons of mapnik osm icons, to which direction should I put them?
17:25 < rd> woglinde, can you post the output of "dpkg -L navit-data|grep navit.png " on your n900?
17:25 < korrosa> antenna1: " to which direction should I put them" <-- What do you mean?
17:25 < woglinde> rd I have no n900 anymore since over one a year
17:25 < rd> do you remember what is the right size?
17:26 < rd> wogline: wow, I was not aware of that. Impressive that you still know a lot of this stuff.
17:26 < antenna1> korrosa: so they're being used by navit. Currently they're in a folder called "pngs" in .navit
17:27 < woglinde> rd scratchbox can be run everywhere
17:27 < korrosa> antenna1: As long as the icons your defined in your layout are pointing to "~/.navit/pngs/blabla.png" then you should be fine? Doing SVN UP won't change anything in your .navit folder
17:27 < woglinde> korrosa anything new about http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/837?
17:29 < korrosa> woglinde: Afraid not. I think Rikky is sorting the Android stuff at the moment, but translations weren't top of his list.
17:30 < antenna1> korrosa: that script of ticket #857 told me there that there are many missing, so I wondered why. Has this png folder been updated as well as the config for mapnik?
17:32 < korrosa> It's possible that there are still some missing icons. Where did you get your mapnik ones from? And I presume you're using the layout from http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Layout/mapnik ?
17:33 < korrosa> Mineque: I've noticed an issue with the randomImage plugin for the wiki.
17:33 < korrosa> I think it has to do with a particular image only.
17:33 < korrosa> Not sure which one though!!
17:34 < Mineque> me too
17:34 < antenna1>  I am indeed. You gave me link and I downloaded them, so I don't remember where it was from
17:34 < rd> woglinde: scratchbox is more a pain than I expected.
17:35 < woglinde> rd hm depends some stuff is okay
17:36 < korrosa> antenna1: And the missing icons are from the mapnik stuff? Note that the script in #857 only checks in the xpm folder, not the png folder: hopefully you changed that?
17:37 < rd> woglinde, yes you are probably right.
17:37 < rd> The dependency on qemu is painful ;-)
17:37 < rd> ...and that qemu does not get updated.
17:37 < rd> (inside scratchbox)
17:37 < woglinde> rd btw. pini switched to cmake for the debian/ubuntu package now
17:38 < rd> and cmake has its own set of qemu problem ;-)
17:39 < rd> was fixed....http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_frequently_asked_questions#QEMU_error_running_cmake_in_ARMEL_target_in_Fremantle.3F
17:41 < rd> woglinde, I think I found the problem: I added a patch for rpath support and removed the other patches from debian/patches (since I did not see how they are applied in debian/rules)
17:42 < rd> there was e.g. remove-espeak patch....which looked suspicious to me.
17:42 < rd> Can yo tell how and if they are applied?
17:42 < woglinde> rd as I said pini removes all source-code which isnt needed under debian/ubuntu
17:43 < woglinde> because its end up in the deb-src
17:43 < woglinde> http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/navit.git;a=blob;f=debian/README.source;h=19e710da74b7e6e07becd1cc6ecd8d0ae0d9b79a;hb=47b7e06
17:45 < rd> woglinde, yes but for the maemo build, we do not want to apply the remove-espeak patch, right?
17:45 < rd> btw....I am in the process to upload the freetype patch to cssu.
17:45 < woglinde> it isnt there anymore
17:45 < rd> but it is there in the sources from http://www.chollya.org/navit
17:46 < woglinde> yes
17:46 < woglinde> because he took it from me
17:46 < woglinde> and I started with the sources from pini
17:47 < rd> I am somewhat lost, which of the patches in the should be applied (e.g. desktop_icons.patch) and which not (e.g remove-espeak?).
17:50 < woglinde> depends what you want
17:51 < woglinde> I suggest do it on n900 like pini does
17:51 < woglinde> make svn up
17:51 < woglinde> write a script which removes all unessary source code
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18:02 < rd> Hmm...my initial goal is to apply the same patches s chollya, since that resulted in a working package. But it is not clear to me which patches were applied in his built. Do you know?
18:06 < woglinde> lookinto series
18:12 < rd> ?? the series patch is the only one which is empty ??
18:13 < rd> Can you have a quick look into http://pastebin.ca/2060589
18:13 < woglinde> ?
18:13 < woglinde> quilt is used
18:13 < woglinde> and quilt looks into the series file
18:13 < woglinde> if there is no patch mentioned no patch is applied
18:14 < rd> does that look ok for you? cp desktop_icons.patch remove-ezxml remove-mini-libc remove-wordexp remove-win32  ../patches
18:15 < woglinde> but I remeber akshi fixed all stuff in his source rather than using patches
18:15 < rd> ok, makes sense.
18:15 < woglinde> but I dont like this approach
18:15 < rd> do the patches I want to apply look ok to you? Maybe I should start more conservate and use only
18:16 < rd> cp desktop_icons.patch ../patches
18:16 < woglinde> rd as I suggest better look at the actual debian/ubuntu
18:16 < woglinde> and merge your stuff with it
18:16 < rd> ok
18:16 < woglinde> besides debformat v3
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18:26 < antenna1> korrosa: have you ever tried to install the latest version of espeak on your ubuntu lucid?
18:28 < antenna1> Because from v 1.44 onwards it can call mbrola directly. Maybe this makes an avoidance of the speechbug possible
18:29 < antenna1> But I have no idea how to install it, the ubuntu respositories are just too comfortable
18:30 < woglinde> hrms the LC_ALL patch dont works right
18:36 < korrosa> antenna1, no I haven't. I get bored quickly of breaking stuff these days!
18:41 < woglinde> hm m
18:53 < rd> wogline, do you remember why this line is in your desktop_icon patch:
18:53 < rd> -DESKTOPFILE_DATA = desktop_icons/navit.desktop
18:53 < rd> ?
18:54 < CIA-84> woglinde * r4494 /trunk/navit/navit/vehicle/gpsd/vehicle_gpsd.c: Fix:vehicle/gpsd: Fix compilation for gpsd 2.96, patch provided by dandor, logging will not work
18:54 < woglinde> rd I think it was for showing the icon in the launcher
18:59 < rd> ok, sounds good.
19:00 < rd> Is there a reason, why you add the navit.svg to the patch and did not commit it to the repository?
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19:03 < rd> Do you know why this conversion fail stops the build:
19:03 < rd> http://pastebin.ca/2060658
19:03 < rd> All the other svg to png converstions seem to ignore the fails.
19:05 < woglinde> no sorry
19:05 < woglinde> but as I said make navit-data-png package and put inte source the pre generated png's
19:06 < woglinde> when use debhelper stuff to make package by just make the .files file
19:06 < woglinde> args when/then
19:09 < rd> ....aahh..maybe it is because there a wrapper script (?) is called.
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19:12 < woglinde> it maybee works when you can tell qemu to use more memory
19:12 < woglinde> but didnt figure out how to do it with scratchbox
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20:50 < pini> woglinde: hi
20:51 < pini> woglinde: about the lc_all patch, do your refer to #850?
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21:45 < woglinde> pini yes
21:45 < woglinde> pini but seems is a problem here anyway with my locales
21:46 < pini> woglinde: ack
21:47 < pini> woglinde: there is a chance that this patch isn't needed anymore with gpsd 2.96
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21:48 < woglinde> pini yes I read the bug discussion
21:49 < pini> woglinde: since you've commited a patch to cope with gpsd 2.96, have you had a chance to verify this?
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21:56 < woglinde> pini I tried by my locales always stick to en now
21:56 < woglinde> even without your patch
21:56 < woglinde> so I will not commit it
21:56 < woglinde> now
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22:13 < pini> woglinde: navit/CMakeLists.txt misses "if (ANDROID) / endif()" around "add_subdirectory (android)"
22:15 < woglinde> pini sure you dont want commit access?
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22:16 < pini> oh well... why not
22:16 < woglinde> I will ask cp15
22:16 < woglinde> you have a sf account?
22:17 < pini> yes: pinisf
22:17 < woglinde> okay
22:17 < pini> thx
22:18 < rd> wogline, does that tell you anything:
22:18 < rd> cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/opt/navit/share/applications/navit.desktop': No such file or directory
22:19 < rd> happens right after dh_install -pnavit
22:19 < woglinde> yes
22:20 < woglinde> the navit.desktop wasnt installed
22:24 < rd> where is this supposed to happen?
22:24 < rd> navit/navit/xpm/desktop_icons/navit.desktop is there in the source checkout
22:25 < rd> I also included the desktop_file.patch to include the osso stuff
22:26 < rd> I find a reference here:
22:26 < rd> navit/navit/xpm/Makefile.am:  DESKTOPFILE_DATA = desktop_icons/navit.desktop
22:27 < rd> I think that is the line the desktop_icon patch patched out.
22:28 < rd> are you sure that this line is not needed?
22:30 < woglinde> hm
22:30 < woglinde> dont know in the moment
22:30 < woglinde> will look it up tomorrow
22:31 < pini> woglinde: found out something about locales
22:31 < pini> which might explain the persistent en setting
22:32 < woglinde> hm whats it?
22:32 < pini> woglinde: in CMakeLists.txt, the locale installation is commented out
22:32 < woglinde> I am using autootols here
22:32 < woglinde> and the files are installed
22:33 < pini> nice try :)
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22:43 < woglinde> good nite
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23:43 < Mineque> gn
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