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06:05 < Mineque> hi
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07:55 <@Horwitz> morgen
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10:39 < Number6> tryagain: ping
11:14 < tryagain> nUMBER6 PONG
11:14 < Mineque> Number6: you can feel so big ^ :D
11:15 < tryagain> ;)
11:17 < Number6> :-)
11:17 < Number6> tryagain: Was the OSD button to run user definable commands (Turbo Boost button) committed?
11:17 < tryagain> I feel so
11:19 < tryagain> but rikky probably disabled it for cmake builds if internal glib used
11:19 < tryagain> hm. He was disabled only speech_cmdline which is based on the same code
11:19 < Number6> I don't care about cmake - all I want is the Turboboost button
11:19 < Number6> The WinCE port should show Bookmarks again
11:28 < tryagain> Number6 syntax is like this <osd .... command="system('/bin/echo', 'Arg1', navit.some_objref,'argN' )" ... > Also there's strjoin(arg1,arg2,...) command available to compose a single argument from several strings.
11:30 < Number6> Do you need the full path for Windows, as well?
11:34 < tryagain> Probably not. But WinCE is different ;)
11:35 < tryagain> I'm usure that there's a current working directory semantics at all in WinCE.
11:36 < tryagain> Parameters to CreateProcess which for desktop should give searching for executable in cwd and in PATH didn't work for me in WinCE even with full path.
11:37 < tryagain> So for WinCE it should not work without full path. But who knows...
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12:40 < tryagain> Number6 I have spawn() command crashing under desktop Windows in CreateProcess(). Wasn't been able to test it  on desktop before. Have you any success with WinCE?
13:07 < tryagain> Number6 I've got it. That's only desktop related bug. Mobile windows dont want STARTUPINFO* parameter and it should be NULL. Desktop Win requires it to be non-NULL.
13:08 < tryagain> And my sample above is incorrect. Working line from navit.xml is as following: <osd enabled="yes" type="button" x="0" y="-196" command='spawn("notepad.exe","c:/1.txt")' src="zoom_out.png"/>
13:08 < tryagain> note doube and sinlge quotes change
13:09 < tryagain> double
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13:17 < Durango> hi @ all
13:17 < Durango> i solved the problem with the path...
13:18 < Durango> now the next... where i can see if the GPS is connected?
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13:25 < tryagain> Durango do you see a blue dot with a circle around it or an arrow in the center of the screen?
13:26 < tryagain> Also in the actions menu you should see vehicle picture with your current coordinates.
13:31 < Durango> no, no blue dot, no circle
13:31 < Durango> no arrow in the centre :(
13:33 < tryagain> then you have to fine-tune your vehicle
13:36 < Durango> it's a win-mobile device
13:36 < Durango> i use
13:36 < Durango> <vehicle name="Local GPS" profilename="car" follow="1" enabled="yes" active="1" source="serial:COM4 baud=4800 parity=N data=8 stop=1" >
13:57 < tryagain> Durango http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit#Vehicle
13:57 < tryagain> Source type probably should be wince:COM4
13:59 < tryagain> If you dont know exact port name then you may try SirfTech utility.
14:00 < Durango> ok, i just tryed source="wince:GPD1:"
14:01 < Durango> i can't use the sirf-utility coz my desktop is not free
14:07 < tryagain> utility works fine on my very limited PND
14:10 < tryagain> If you're able to run navit.exe on the device just copy the utility there (with the name navit.exe if nothing else works) and run it.
14:18 < Durango> same way i run navit :)
14:18 < Durango> i renamed it mobilenavigator.exe
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14:40 < tryagain> Durango Did utility help you to discover port parameters?
15:02 < tryagain> Updated http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/461 - fix for desktop Windows.
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17:59 < Durango> i was at work...
17:59 < Durango> i try it now :)
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18:14 < antenna1> good news for mbrola users! Now, volume can  be set specifically for espeak! https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3304513&group_id=159649&atid=812678
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18:22 < korrosa> antenna1: That looks good! Seems like I may have to build espeak from source now....
18:23 < Mineque> hi ninja ;)
18:23 < antenna1> korrosa: tell me, if you need help with the installation, I searched long enough for it!
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18:24 < korrosa> antenna1: Oh?! It's not just as easy as ./configure && make && make install? Damn.
18:25 < antenna1> nope. I'll give you the commands wait..it's on my netbook
18:30 < antenna1> pastebin.com/JWXmCXn0
18:30 < korrosa> And I presume I should first remove the espeak package I already have installed. Anything else?
18:30 < korrosa> Oh, I see!
18:31 < antenna1> yes, download the zip from the given link
18:31 < antenna1> extract it and go to src/
18:31 < korrosa> Can't I use svn?
18:32 < antenna1> this is the latest, I also tried to install the svn, but there is some data missing, so take this one!
18:33 < antenna1> phontab files are already compiled there, that's the difference
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18:36 < korrosa> antenna1: So the README says I should be using V18 in Ubuntu, but you've used V19?
18:38 < antenna1> yes, it works anyway. I had both installed and removed v18
18:38 < antenna1> is there any particular reason why ubuntu users should use v18?
18:41 < korrosa> I don't know, except that's what it says in the README.
18:43 < antenna1> it doesn't say you should use it, only what used? to be common. I guess v19 has become standard for the most distributions
18:45 < korrosa> "Some Linux distributions
18:45 < korrosa> use V18 (eg. Debian, Ubuntu) others (eg. SuSe) use V19." OK, so it doesn't say you SHOULD, but it's implied!
18:45 < antenna1> once I missed copying the v19 and make failed -probably because I remove v18 and v18 is the standard
18:45 < antenna1> so it depends on what you've got installed
18:45 < antenna1> just like I said, for me it works with v19 as well
19:04 < korrosa> antenna1: So what's your navit espeak line now? WIll my original one work?
19:04 < korrosa> Oh, yeah, it works
19:04 < antenna1> I never tried my old one, but I  there is no reason why not
19:05 < antenna1> you could just make it shorter
19:05 < antenna1> just remove mbrola and aplay from your line
19:08 < korrosa> Remove mbrola and aplay? So it will just use mbrola by default? I think I'm missing part of the puzzle here...
19:15 < antenna1> from your line, not the system
19:15 < antenna1> korrosa:  just espeak, non pipes
19:15 < antenna1> no
19:15 < korrosa> Lol, yeah - I tend to ask questions, then try it, then it works!
19:16 < korrosa> My line is now: espeak -a '200' -v mb-en1 -s '150' -p '50' "$1" &
19:16 < antenna1> remove that -a '200' it has no effect
19:17 < korrosa> Eh? I thought it just got fixed?! Wasn't that what your original post was about?
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19:17 < korrosa> It does seem to have an effect on my system
19:19 < antenna1> I thought the change was to edit the mb in /espeak-data/...
19:19 < antenna1> but if it does now, it's cool
19:19 < antenna1> yes, it does! :D
19:21 < antenna1> too bad my build in speakers are too cheap to deal with higher volumes :/
19:23 < korrosa> Ha! What have you tried?
19:23 < korrosa> I've got -a '200' and voicing set to 250. Speakers just about cope...!
19:25 < antenna1> lol, mine fail at voicing 150 and -a 100
19:27 < korrosa> Have you got system sound >100% ?
19:28 < korrosa> I'm on an Acer One netbook, btw.
19:28 < antenna1> nope, like said, my speakers suck. Cheap 1watt garbage
19:29 < antenna1> ion mobii, just bought it, because there was no such cheap hdmi netbook with non glare screen
19:30 < antenna1> but massive heat plus small fan = horrible noise
19:30 < antenna1> I use a usb fan to cool it :D
19:30 < antenna1> while driving it doesn't bother me, but at home it's pretty annonying
19:35 < korrosa> Ah, a non-glare screen: that sounds cool! Driving when it's sunny is a pain in the arse with the netbook!
19:40 < antenna1> that's why I bought it. And it's cool to play mkv on your netbook, but currently I just don't connect it to huge screens.  Well, it was the first point of view netbook. Next time I'll buy an established mass products
19:40 < antenna1> product
19:41 < antenna1> another plus would be 64 bit
19:41 < korrosa> Does it play 1080p?
19:42 < korrosa> My Aspire Revo can do 720, but burps at 1080.
19:42 < korrosa> And that's a mini computer...
19:44 < antenna1> yes it does with gpu support
19:46 < antenna1> you mean nettop
19:46 < antenna1> just searched for it and it seems to have and ion chipset as well
19:46 < antenna1> so fullhd should be possible
19:48 < antenna1> korrosa:  what os is running on it?
19:49 < korrosa> Yeah, it has the ion chipset, running Ubuntu. VLC can't use the chipset well (or at least it couldn't a few months ago), but I use xbmc which seems to work well. To be honest, I've only ever tried 720 because I read that's as far as it would go. You have better information?
19:49 < antenna1> I use smplayer
19:50 < korrosa> (To be clear: I use xbmc as a media centre, not just as a video player!)
19:51 < antenna1> i know what xbmc is, but I never used it
19:52 < antenna1> i didn't set it up on natty yet
19:53 < antenna1> (smplayer)
19:56 < antenna1> korrosa: ion chipset supports 5.1 sound too
20:01 < korrosa> Yup. Don't have the proper amp for it though.
20:11 < Durango> tryagain SirfTech starts... but then it don't accept commands from touch-screen :(
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20:48 < tryagain_> woglinde hi
20:48 < woglinde> ji
20:48 < woglinde> ups hi
20:48 < Durango> tryagain now i see the blue circle but it's on position 0
20:50 < tryagain_> woglinde I've read logs on my spawn patch. Done some documentation changes. And, the most important, I have a fix for a bug which drew patch unusable on desktop Windows. It's attached to #461
20:51 < tryagain_> Durango probably you still have no connection to satellites or to GPS device at all
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20:51 < woglinde_> hm okay
20:52 < woglinde_> I have locally a patch which brings back shell syntax but its not 100% shellescape safe
20:52 < woglinde_> but I dont think someone will call a street ''''|| rm -rf'' or something
20:52 < tryagain_> think of hackers
20:52 < woglinde_> I often do
20:53 < tryagain_> I don't think its a good idea to have usafe processing of external data
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20:55 < tryagain_> so its better to have a bunch of wrapper scripts than have users devices r00ted someday
20:57 < tryagain_> but some limited processing can be added. For example, we can interpret first pipe char as a sign that %s should be redirected to stdin of spawned process, and last & as a sign that we don't want any freezing
21:04 < Durango> i retry with sirftech
21:04 < tryagain_> It worked fine for me
21:05 < Durango> it starts and run
21:05 < Durango> but i can't close the splash
21:09 < tryagain_> what splash screen do you mean? I have ецщ messageы about com port properties which I close with OK button and then there's a menu at the bottom of the screen
21:10 < Durango> the "About"-screen
21:10 < Durango> when it starts
21:11 < Durango> but now it works
21:11 < tryagain_> Do you have ok button at the top right corner?
21:11 < tryagain_> fine
21:11 < Durango> the touchpad seems to be calibrate on the sirf-screen
21:12 < Durango> com7 1200baud
21:12 < Durango> :)
21:13 < tryagain_> You could search that bu hand forever
21:13 < tryagain_> by
21:22 < Durango> could it be that the com-port changes?
21:26 < tryagain_> usualy not. Unless you have some bluetooth/usb GPS device
21:27 < tryagain_> Does the utility display your real coordinates?
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21:42 < Durango> where i see the coordinates?
21:56 < tryagain_> Do you get com port selection grayed out after you press "find port and baud"?  Do you see increasing counters at messages NMEA, Bytes? Then press OK at top right corner. You will get main window of utility, where you should see UTC time, coordinates and some other stuff from GPS chip.
21:59 < tryagain_> woglinde did rikky clarified his position with speech_cmdline not building with builtin glib?
21:59 < Durango> i see the utc-time
21:59 < Durango> now some hex
22:01 < Durango> the port selection is greyed, COM7: GloNov GPS Driver
22:01 < Durango> baudrate too
22:02 < Durango> should i use source="wince:GPD7:" or source="wince:COM7:" baudrate="1200"?
22:02 < tryagain_> This seems to be the same as for me. But in the main window I see Lattitude: and Longitude: besides the others. May be you need to get to open air
22:03 < tryagain_> wince:COM7:
22:03 < tryagain_> baudrate too
22:03 < Durango> i try to take a walk around...
22:03 < Durango> brb
22:14 < tryagain_> good night
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22:56 < pini> Please, someone with commit rights: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/864
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