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08:40 < Mineque> hi
08:41 < Mineque> kenguest: i had 9300i ;)
08:41 < Mineque> u are using BT gps?
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09:03 < Vilkku> and I'm back, if you remember me from 11 hours ago
09:07 < Vilkku> I guess there is no way of taking a screenshot that doesn't involve either the SDK or rooting the phone?
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12:00 < kenguest> Mineque: yes.
12:00 < kenguest> battery life isn't too bad either
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13:35 < tryagain> antenna1 I've read your http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Speech_output_with_espeak_and_mbrola and have a couple of comments.
13:36 < tryagain> 1. xml file entry don't need to have argument quoted and better should be <speech type="cmdline" data="/home/CHANGEME/.navit/speech.sh %s" cps="10" />
13:38 < tryagain> 2. There's no need for pipe in the script, you can just put every command in a new line. And shell scripts for unix are usually start with shell name pointer, so see following three lines:
13:39 < tryagain> #!/bin/sh
13:39 < tryagain> aplay -r 44100 /home/CHANGEME/.navit/sound.wav
13:39 < tryagain> espeak -vmb-en1 -s 150 -a 150 -p 50 "$1"
13:40 < tryagain> quoting of numbers in script isn't needed too. Hope you read this later.
13:41 < antenna1> tryagain: thanks für your comments, I'm just reading them
13:41 < tryagain> ok
13:42 < antenna1> tryagain: do you want to change the entry?
13:43 < tryagain> I have no way to test it, if you tested it and feel it ok then you can do it yourself.
13:44 < antenna1> alright, will do
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14:58 < tryagain> I've got today a recent map from planet extractor, using svn 4499 Navit. When I click on a building way_id 102680614 I see no attribute like housenumber or something similar.  At http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/102680614 there is addr:housenumber attribute set. Why?
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15:32 < tryagain> Number6 ping
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15:57 < antenna1> tryagain: hope you read the logs. I added all your enhancements , thanks! To the pointer: of course I had one in my script, but I thought this would be obvious
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18:50 < zoff99> cp15: ping
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19:45 < TAsn> hey guys, sup? I got navit for android but I can't seem to be able to search for addresses. The map works but when pressing: Option->Address search, I can't find anything, but for example when navigating and pressing the screen -> globe icon, I can see it detects I'm on highway whatever, i.e detects the address.
19:45 < TAsn> Any ideas?
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19:58 < woglinde_> search is still a bit problematic
19:58 < woglinde_> which country you are in?
19:59 < TAsn> israel
19:59 < TAsn> limiting to country/city/etc in the "more" menu
19:59 < TAsn> doesn't really work for me, cause there's no hebrew keyboard there
19:59 < TAsn> and the search just returns nothing, as said above.
20:01 < TAsn> just installed navit on my box here
20:02 < TAsn> will see if I can search there
20:02 < TAsn> (linux)
20:02 < TAsn> won't work. :|
20:02 < TAsn> shows me a backtrace without too much info.
20:03 < TAsn> though the fail point is waitpid
20:03 < TAsn> oops sorry
20:03 < TAsn> fail point is:
20:03 < TAsn> gui_add_attr
20:03 < woglinde_> hm I think we didnt have yet some one from israel
20:04 < TAsn> nah, people use it here, I'm pretty certain they do. I was just not able to find anyone that has valuable info :PY
20:04 < TAsn> how can I check if the map even has address info?
20:04 < TAsn> any debugger dumper?
20:04 < TAsn> debug*
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20:06 < woglinde_> hm so you dont have any city at all?
20:06 < TAsn> city names are in hebrew I assume
20:07 < TAsn> so I can't find anything.
20:07 < TAsn> actions -> twon
20:07 < TAsn> town*
20:07 < TAsn> chose israel
20:07 < TAsn> and now there's nothing in the list
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20:10 < woglinde_> hm and you dont have any hebrewic keys?
20:10 < TAsn> I do
20:10 < TAsn> but in that screen
20:10 < TAsn> navit doesn't support the android keyboard
20:10 < TAsn> but insteads provides a weird
20:10 < TAsn> a-z keyboard.
20:11 < woglinde_> are you sure?
20:11 < woglinde_> actually on navit there are two options to search towns
20:11 < TAsn> yeah
20:12 < TAsn> options -> adress search
20:12 < woglinde_> and one supports the native keyboard
20:12 < TAsn> address*
20:12 < TAsn> yeah, no results there
20:12 < TAsn> at all.
20:12 < TAsn> tried searching for addresses/cities
20:12 < TAsn> nothing.
20:12 < woglinde_> hm okay
20:12 < woglinde_> sorry than I cannt help you at the moment
20:12 < TAsn> that's ok
20:13 < TAsn> but is there a way to dump info from the navit map?
20:13 < TAsn> just to make sure there are addresses there
20:13 < TAsn> got it from the osm extractor
20:13 < woglinde_> hm yes there was a way
20:13 < woglinde_> but cannt remember it at the moment
20:13 < TAsn> haha, was
20:13 < TAsn> :p
20:13 < woglinde_> maybee its in the wiki
20:13 < TAsn> will search again
20:13 < TAsn> I went through it the other day
20:14 < TAsn> thanks.
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20:36 < tryagain> TAsn please make sure that you enter city name in the same case (upper-lower) as it's in the OSM. Navit currently seems to do case-insensitive search only in Latin.
20:40 < antenna1> tryagain: did you read the logs?
20:40 < tryagain> antenna1: Yes, I read the logs :)
20:40 < tryagain> Not at all :)
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20:41 < antenna1> well go ahead :)
20:42 < antenna1> All your enhancements worked
20:44 < antenna1> oh and I found out that if you don't use the pipe for that sound file, espeak "waits" until aplay finished playback
20:45 < antenna1> while it starts during the playback with the pipe
20:45 < tryagain> And what is expected behaviour: to wait or not ot wait?
20:45 < tryagain> ot=to
20:45 < antenna1> that's why I filled some empty time into the soundfile :)
20:45 < antenna1> to wait
20:46 < zoff99> TAsn: still here?
20:46 < antenna1> so you don't have so modify the soundfile
20:47 < tryagain> If you're going not to wait then it's better to use an & sign at the end of the command, as pipe will try to redirect aplay output to espeak input. Something werid may happen.
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20:52 < TAsn> zoff99, yeah.
20:53 < zoff99> TAsn: -> priv
20:53 < TAsn> tryagain, thanks for the tip, but I need to search in hebrew.
20:53 < TAsn> though I'll try again in english
20:53 < TAsn> sec
20:57 < tryagain> TAsn: I mean if you get it input in herbew (using system keyboard) then you should enter names case-sensitive. If you searching in English, then case should be not significant.
20:57 < TAsn> no such concept (case) in hebrew
20:57 < TAsn> but thanks :)
20:58 < tryagain> languages are so different... :)
20:59 < TAsn> :P
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21:26 < antenna1> tryagain: I shortened the sound file, but still the eSpeak speech output comes like 1-2 seconds later. Seems like the pipe is needed here after all
21:29 < tryagain> hm... Thats probably the time needed for espeak startup. Try to run it directly from cmdline and see if there's the same delay.
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21:29 < tryagain> If you find that it's better to run these in parllel then better use &
21:31 < antenna1> parallels are not supported anymore in cmdline, that's why I use that script
21:32 < antenna1> what makes & the better solution?
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21:41 < tryagain> In the script these will run in parallel. If you use a pipe then its supposed that aplay will emit some text output to stdout and espeak is going to accept it on its stdin. Weird things may happen if [some version] of aplay will try to emit something there while [some version] of espeak will by some reason close its stdin. So I, being a little paranoid, say if you see no difference beetwen | and & here then better use &.
21:44 < tryagain> btw. By running from cmdline I've meant just type in your shell 'espeak -vmb-en1 -s 150 -a 150 -p 50 "The next turn will be in 200 meters"' and note the time passed beetwen you press Enter and listen a voice.
21:48 < tryagain> Number6 ping
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22:03 < antenna1> tryagain: alright, there is no remarkable intermission, at least not 1-2 seconds
22:05 < tryagain> antenna1 hm Then what happens if you run your script directly from the shell? Do you have intermission?
22:05 < antenna1> mh, when I enter both (aplay and espeak) it tells me do_pause:1242
22:06 < antenna1> and espeak doesn't start at all
22:07 < antenna1> tryagain: when I start the script by terminal I get the same 1-2 seconds pause between aplay and espeak
22:08 < tryagain> nice... no idea at the moment, sorry
22:08 < antenna1> no problem, as long as it works with & I don't care
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22:11 < woglinde> antenna1 try to avoid pulseaduio
22:11 < woglinde> it often does more harm
22:12 < woglinde> than its usefull
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22:16 < CIA-84> woglinde * r4504 /trunk/navit/navit/map.c: Fix:Core:set refcount to 1, if priv methods fails, otherwise the mem for map strtuct is not cleaned
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23:17 < lxg> hi
23:18 < lxg> what's with the "doesn't show the map" bug?
23:18 < lxg> many people seem to have that, including myself
23:18 < lxg> (htc desire, android 2.2, tried with market version, as well as latest svn)
23:18 < lxg> is there any documentation or existing discussions about that?
23:19 < lxg> (i tried downloading maps via the app itself, as well as from the extractor and placing it at /sdcard/navit/navitmap.bin)
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23:53 < Gitch> Morning all :)
23:54 < Gitch> I'm having a problem with the search function within Navit... I can not find the town called Karratha in WA.
23:55 < Gitch> I have read and reread about the search function being a little ordinary but would really like some help in fixing this up :)
23:55 < Gitch> It's definitely in the Australian section of OSM
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