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01:06 < borekon> somebody can help me?
01:07 < borekon> everyone sleeping zZzZz
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06:07 <@Horwitz> morgen
06:43 < Mineque> hi
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08:40 < _seven> hi all
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08:54 < _seven> I installed SVN navit on debian. Everything's up and running fine. I know there are some issues with finding street names when using openstreetmaps. But still I'm curious, is there anything I can do to improve the search results?
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09:12 < tryagain> _seven You can try this patch http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859, it's not included in SVN, sou you will have to get current source code from SVN, apply the patch and rebuild binary.
09:14 < tryagain> _seven Also, to get most of the patch, you will have to build your own map using maptool from the patched version of navit. OSM data needed to build Navit binary map you can get from geofabrik.de.
09:16 < _seven> that patch really sounds promising! I will try it
09:16 < tryagain> Don't forget to report your results here or on trac. Good luck!
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09:27 < _seven> ok, applying poi_filter_with_address_search2.diff compiled nice and easy. will now create proper maps using maptool
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09:52 < Number6> Is the website down for anyone else?
10:16 < tryagain> Number6 http://www.navit-project.org/ request timed out
10:20 < tryagain> trac is working, wiki is down
10:36 < _seven> tryagain That new "light bulb" POI street search is giving me much better results. Anything I can do to help improving it?
10:40 < tryagain> If you can break it, then report here. Any thoughts are welcome too. Did you try the "letter" button?
10:46 < tryagain> well, the patch http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859 breaks builds based on support/glib because of g_utf8_casefold function. Will look how to fix it. I dislike strcasecmp() 'coz it mishandle non-latin utf8-ecnoded strings.
11:11 < _seven> what do you mean by "letter button"?
11:13 < _seven> tryagain : btw. /n is not handled correctly. I would expect "start searching..."
11:13 < Number6> tryagain: Thanks. Both the wiki and the main website are on the same server
11:14 < Number6> As is download.navit-project.org
13:16 <@Horwitz> cp15 is already working on the server.
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13:29 < Number6> Wunderbar
13:54 < kenguest> s/ar/ra/
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14:14 < tryagain> _seven Will look at \n handling.
14:15 < tryagain> If you have xpm/post*.* family of images (named like gui_active*.* ), it shhould be displayed at the right of button you're wating to act when you press Enter. It looks like a letter for me.
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15:02 < tryagain> woglinde hi. Badly need g_utf8_casefold. It's missing from support/glib. What can I do?
15:03 < woglinde> copy over the function?
15:03 < woglinde> but maybee it is too much for wince than
15:04 < _seven> tryagain about the buttons: can you give me hint where i can find information on how the buttons are created. I seem to be missing a whole lot of them on my test system . The CarPC system is a little bit older, many file in xpm seem to be removed from svn
15:04 < woglinde> _seven edit your navit.xml and exchange the xpm with .png
15:12 < _seven> woglinde  ok, looking much better. had to change button size as well 64x64 did not exist.
15:12 < tryagain> _seven "post" image in this case is referred from the code, you may find that place by searching for post in gui_internal.c and replace with any other image you have. I've got this image by compiling relatevily fresh svn build, and, yes, it's not *.xpm, its's *.png.
15:16 < woglinde> seven whats your device?
15:16 < woglinde> tryagain?
15:17 < woglinde> no need to change gui_internal.c
15:17 < tryagain> woglinde I don't think WinCE hardware has so big limitations that it could not process unicode. We're not going to run on Z80 with 256k of RAM? I'll try to get that function working.
15:17 < tryagain> woglinde He was asking before on my patch with new "letter" button.
15:17 < _seven> Debian squeeze VM  -- gui type="internal" icon_xs="48" icon_s="48" post_48_48.png exists in navit/xpm dir
15:18 < tryagain> _seven you probably need also post_8-
15:18 < tryagain> yup
15:19 < tryagain> post_8_8.png post_16_16.png post_32_32.png
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15:20 < _seven> i have 8, 16, 32, 48 and 96 - maybe i simply dont get where exactly it is supposed to show up...
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15:21 < tryagain> hm.. Right to the right of gui_active  which is to the right of query string input field.
15:23 < tryagain> _seven do you have `gui_internal_widget_append(we, wb=gui_internal_image_new(this, image_new_xs(this, "post")));` line in gui_internal.c ?
15:24 < _seven> ok guys. cool down! everything's just fine ;-) i DO see that icon...
15:30 < _seven> sorry about all that - i checked and it's returning house_number and poly_building entries just fine   - @tryagain: Thank you for this great feature!
15:32 < woglinde> ah hm?
15:32 < woglinde> which patch?
15:33 < tryagain> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859
15:34 < tryagain> but it's dependent on g_utf8_casefold
15:36 < tryagain> woglinde Did your idea to upgrade support/glib to cuurent version had any success?
15:36 < woglinde> hm sorry didnt found the time to look at the diff
15:37 < woglinde> but I think it didnt change much in functions we are using from glib
15:39 < tryagain> It just refers to g_utf8_casefold which is not in support/glib. So it just not builds for Win with cmake. And we seem to really missing utf8 case-conversion and case-insensetive comparing functions from glib.
15:39 < woglinde> tryagain besides the osm.c changes I would commit your patch
15:39 < woglinde> but these changes need an ack from cp15
15:40 < tryagain> Please don't commit now, it will break Windows and probably Android builds.
15:41 < woglinde> btw the utf8 function shouldnt be problem
15:41 < woglinde> there are serval others activated
15:45 < tryagain> But casefold isn't in the list. We have no copy of http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/glib/gunichartables.h which is probably the core for case conversion.
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15:47 < tryagain> will look further later. see you!
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18:16 < tryagain_> does anybody know if it's possible to compile Linux version of Navit with internal glib? Had to disable gui-gtk, dbus. Looking if gtk-drawing-area will fail to build.
18:20 < woglinde> why you want this?
18:20 < woglinde> install mingw crosscompiler
18:20 < woglinde> and try to compile for wince
18:21 < woglinde> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Compiling_Navit_for_WinCE/WinMobile
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18:26 < tryagain_> If that instructions did not change recently, that cross-compiling suite seems to have own copy of glib. I was able to compile for WinCE without referencing internal glib and run it on the device.
18:33 < tryagain_> :( seems to build ok but hang deeply inside gtk_init () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
18:35 < tryagain_> woglinde what else graphics driver is suitable for Linux?
18:37 < woglinde> gtk qt sdl and opnegl
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18:47 < trickysse> hi, could anyone help me use navit's routing functionality? I don't understand the UI at all
18:47 < tryagain_> do you have GPS fix (does your device see sattelites)?
18:48 < trickysse> yep
18:48 < trickysse> the map is centered on my current GPS position
18:48 < tryagain_> ok
18:48 < trickysse> how do I enter a location to route to?
18:48 < tryagain_> Put your finger on the map
18:48 < trickysse> k
18:48 < tryagain_> then you get to menu
18:49 < tryagain_> press command
18:49 < trickysse> Command? There's no such button
18:49 < tryagain_> press set destination
18:49 < trickysse> Actions?
18:49 < woglinde> yes
18:49 < woglinde> actions
18:49 < tryagain_> ups. I have localized version.
18:49 < woglinde> than you get a menu with
18:50 < woglinde> position of point you clicked on the map
18:50 < woglinde> car position
18:50 < woglinde> bookmarks
18:50 < trickysse> ok... I see "Bookmarks", a picture of the globe with lat/long, a picture of a car with lat/long, and "Town"
18:50 < woglinde> hit town then
18:52 < trickysse> I'm in Canada; should I specify country first?
18:53 < tryagain_> if you se not your flag on the left side, press it
18:53 < tryagain_> see
18:53 < trickysse> (okay, I set country to Canada, and entered a Town)
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18:54 < trickysse> Navit doesn't support looking up street addresses numerically / postal codes?
18:58 < trickysse> Okay, quick google search tells me it doesnt.
19:07 < tryagain_> Yes, it has known difficulties with it.
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19:55 < dnjaramba> Under SEH Team
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20:13 < trickysse> is anyone working on incorporating postal codes and numerical addresses?
20:15 < tryagain_> you can look at http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859 - there are some improvements of housenumber searh
20:15 < tryagain_> search
20:15 < tryagain_> but its not ready for production
20:26 < trickysse> Is there more documentation on how NavIt is built, how it converts osm xml into its own format, etc, aside from just looking at source
20:27 < trickysse> (and by built i mean designed, not building from src...)
20:30 < Mineque> trickysse: yes
20:30 < Mineque> at wiki
20:30 < Mineque> navit binary format
20:30 < Mineque> look for that
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20:57 < woglinde> hm only german
20:57 < woglinde> http://www.golem.de/1106/84174.html
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20:57 < woglinde> navigon now with osm based material too
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21:02 < Number6> woglinde: Will they be using the raw OSM data, or will they convert it?
21:04 < woglinde> they are only using poi's
21:04 < woglinde> which you can donwload for free from the navigon servers
21:04 < woglinde> or you pay if you are not clever enough to download and copy it to your device self
21:04 < Number6> :-)
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21:15 < CIA-62> martin-s * r4531 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/tile.c: Add:maptool:Sort tiles after name
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21:57 < tryagain_> Number6 when I first time compile Navit for CE, I get no errors. If I change any .c file in support/glib and recompile I get a bunch of errrors from ld about duplicate definition of every function from the file I change. To clear these errors i have to remove libnavit.la by hand.
21:57 < woglinde> tryagain hm intressting
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22:00 < tryagain_> hm. Cant reproduce that.
22:00 < tryagain_> :-/
22:01 < tryagain_> but it was here 10 minutes before
22:02 < Number6> Did you do a make clean?
22:04 < tryagain_> I can conclude not. But I was doing make distclean, ./autogen.sh, ./configure and make, then changed a file, then ran mak again and got error.
22:06 < tryagain_> trying to get rid of it I removed lo file from glib directory, got error after make, then removed libnavit.la from navit directory, ran make and got no errors. Maybe its time to sleep? :)
22:09 < Number6> It is for me! Trying to get Navit to compile on a super computer is harder then you'd think
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22:22 < playya_> moin
22:23 < playya_> I want to use the generated garmin maps from openmtbmap.org but I don't get a map, only this: http://pastebin.com/kF6v3nTV
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22:57 < tryagain_> woglinde_ updated http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859 If you still feel you can commit it now without osm.c modifications, please do it. Everything should now be ok. Don't forget to revert osm.c changes.
22:59 < tryagain_> gn
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23:35 < Mineque> good night
23:37 < Number6> Night, Mineque. Night, all
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