--- Log opened Fri Jun 24 00:00:37 2011
00:02 < brim4brim> Hi Everyone, I don't know if anyone remembers me but I was on a day or two ago about navit and Loc8 supporting it
00:03 < brim4brim> Well good news is that the owner of Loc8 has passed the information on to his development team for inclusion in their Point8 app which they will be releasing for Android in the coming months
00:04 < brim4brim> So it should be that currently the most popular privately owned post code system favored to become the national post code system for Ireland will be able to support sending lat/longs to Navit :D
00:05 < brim4brim> for anyone that wasn't here earlier, we don't have postcodes yet in Ireland and this is a private company trying to fix that :P
00:07 <@cp15_> Nice, and thank you
00:28 < brim4brim> np I use Navit so I will benefit if it happens :)
00:29 < brim4brim> I owe everyone here a thank you for the trouble free navigation I've got on my X8. I recommend Navit to everyone I meet with a Smartphone :)
00:35 <@cp15_> Oh :-) Thanks
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05:58 <@Horwitz> morgen
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08:39 < Zaba> hey guys, I seem to be running into some manifestation of bug #456. I get "navit:route_path_new:no route found, pos blocked" on the console when the route gets longer than a certain distance. Running navit from debian testing (0.5.0~svn4494+dfsg.1-1).
08:40 < Zaba> is there something I could do to make it calculate the route better?
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09:36 < Number6> Morning
09:36 < Number6> Zaba: What svn version are you using?
09:36 < woglinde> hi number6
09:37 < Number6> Oh, you said Zaba :-)
09:37 < Number6> Sorry, I need my morning coffee
09:37 < Number6> Hi woglinde
09:38 < Number6> Zaba: If you look at http://trac.navit-project.org/attachment/ticket/456/route.c.diff , you can see a patch
09:38 < Number6> It will not apply cleanly, so you'll need to find where is says 40000 and 10000 and replace them
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10:05 < Zaba> Number6, has the issue been fixed in newer svn revisions?
10:06 < Number6> Zaba: In Revision 4536, another road type was added. This increases the routing distances in some cases
10:06 < Number6> You'll need to recompute your map
10:07 < Zaba> I'm using maps from maps.navit-project.org
10:08 < Zaba> also, I'd really like to stick to debian packages of navit if they can work.. building stuff on a netbook would be rather slow
10:08 < Zaba> I guess the same applies to building maps using maptool
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10:09 < korrosa> Zaba: I use Navit on a netbook, and compile both the program and maps myself.
10:10 < korrosa> Compiling Navit first time round does take a while (~30 mins) due to image processing. However, afterwards re-compiling is fairly fast (<10 mins)
10:11 < korrosa> To compile a map of Great Britain takes approximately 15 minutes.
10:12 < Number6> korrosa: use "make -j" instead of "make"
10:12 < Zaba> how up-to-date are the maps from maps.navit-project.org?
10:12 < Number6> Zaba: The 13th is the last update
10:12 < Number6> It'll speed up the compilation, at the expense of system performance for other tasks, korrosa
10:16 < Zaba> 13th?
10:16 < Number6> Zaba: Yes, the 13th of June
10:16 < Zaba> ah
10:16 < Zaba> well, does it feature that new road type you've mentioned?
10:16 < Number6> What country are you looking for?
10:16 < Number6> No, I'm afraid not
10:17 < Zaba> well, the revision I'm running doesn't have them, either, so it seems fair
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10:31 <@cp15> Zaba, normally the maps are updated daily, but we moved to a new server and there are still a few things not working
10:31 < Zaba> I se
10:31 < Zaba> +e
10:35 < Zaba> Number6, is the patch for issue #456 still relevant even for newest svn revisions?
10:36 < Number6> Zaba: Maybe not, it depends on your situation :-)
10:36 < Number6> It works for me, doing longdistance routing
10:47 < Zaba> the maps on maps.navit-project.org will be updated with the new road type, eventually?
10:47 < Number6> Yeah, as soon as the new server is working
10:47 < Number6> What country are you looking for?
10:48 < Zaba> the 'western europe' predefined area is what I have
10:49 < Number6> Ah, right. That might be a bit too big for me to compute for you :-)
10:53 < Zaba> the long-distance routing issue seems to be fairly frequent, though; is there no official fix for it yet?
10:54 < Number6> There are a number of factors that can affect long distance routing. Mainly the road types, and how much RAM was can use for the routing table
10:55 < Number6> So we're a bit conservative on the routing numbers, as we need low powered devices (most in car GPS accessories) to be able to work
10:55 < Zaba> well, here I can't even make it route a substantial distance out of a city
10:55 < Zaba> would be nice to have it configurable...
10:55 <@cp15> Zaba, I assume there is no highway or bigger road close to your city?
10:56 < Zaba> well, it routes into a highway, but beyond a certain distance at a single highway it gives up with "no route found, pos blocked"
10:56 < Zaba> and yes, it even needn't be complicated---it can route to some distance but not a longer one on the same road
10:57 <@cp15> Can you give me some info where this happens?
10:57 < Zaba> well, I'm testing with st. petersburg, in russia, as the position
10:58 < Zaba> and anywhere from northwest from north as the destination
10:58 < Zaba> for example, A-123
10:59 < Zaba> it seems to be able to route along it up to some point but fail later
10:59 < Zaba> that is, when the distance is larger
10:59 < Number6> How far is the distance?
11:05 <@cp15> I think I know the problem... First of all, is the tagging right? I see a highway ring around st. petersburg, but all other roads are of lower priority. Is that right?
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11:22 < drlizau> Zaba I know your problem well
11:22 < drlizau> There is code which routes around cities
11:23 < drlizau> if you cannot make a route without going through a city you get 'no route, pos blocked'
11:23 < drlizau> Could you experiment to see if routing sometimes takes very long out of the way routes?
11:24 < antenna1> korrosa: are you already on your journey?
11:24 < Number6> drlizau: That's not fully true. Navit will route me through cities if no other route is available
11:25 < drlizau> I challenge you to get a route from Sydney to Adelaide (Australia) then
11:25 < drlizau> I can't even route one quarter fo the distance, and even then it takes me hundreds of km out of my way.
11:25 < Number6> Challenge accepted!
11:26 < Zaba> cp15, yes, that's right
11:26 < Zaba> sorry, I was away.
11:26 < drlizau> I last downloaded a svn navit about the beginning of the month.
11:26 < Zaba> cp15, it has no problem routing outside the city up until some point
11:27 < drlizau> Zaba, i can route from my home for about 200km
11:27 < Zaba> cp15, that is, it can cross that ring highway just fine, but not go very far from it, it seems
11:27 < drlizau> Once past 250km there are position blocked notes
11:28 < Zaba> hrm.. is there some way to make navit dump position and destination coordinates?
11:28 < drlizau> Then I get closer to my destination as I drive along and finally the routing works
11:28 < drlizau> Zaba check ~/.navit/destination.txt
11:31 < Zaba> cp15, it can calculate a route from st. petersburg to the nearby сестрорецк just fine, for example, and even quite a lot farther. But not much farther.
11:31 < Zaba> st. petersburg -> helsinki gives me pos blocked, for example :>
11:32 < Zaba> or st. petersburg -> many points along A-123, as a less extreme example
11:32 <@cp15> Ok, can you route from the farest point where it works to the next point where it doesn't?
11:33 < Zaba> piece by piece, yes, seems so
11:34 < sleske> cp15: Hi!
11:34 < Zaba> indeed, I can
11:34 < sleske> cp15: I started work on the "recent destinations" feature we talked about. Can I ask you some questions?
11:35 <@cp15> Of course not ;-)
11:36 <@cp15> What do you want to know?
11:36 < sleske> cp15: Thanks :-). Well, I
11:37 < sleske> cp15: .. am starting to find my way about the sources. I am trying to model my new code on the bookmarks code in gui_internal.c
11:37 < sleske> cp15: So I figured I
11:38 <@cp15> Already a good start, since they are quite similar
11:38 < sleske> cp15: should implement something like gui_internal_cmd_bookmarks. However, I have trouble understanding the signature.
11:38 < sleske> cp15: gui_internal_cmd_bookmarks(struct gui_priv *this, struct widget *wm, void *data)
11:39 < sleske> cp15: gui_priv is just the standard handle to all the GUI stuff, that makes sense. But what is the widget for (why does the bookmark list need a widget), and what is data? It's apparently used to implement subfolders?
11:40 < korrosa> antenna1: No, not yet.
11:41 <@cp15> widget is a handle to the widget that called the bookmark command, data is a pointer to additional information supplied by the calling widget
11:41 < Zaba> cp15, what conclusion can I draw from the fact it can calculate the route part by part, but not all at once?
11:42 < sleske> cp15: Ah, thanks. Is this some kind of "generic" signature, because of the callback system used to call it? So all the methods must have the same signature?
11:43 <@cp15> That the long-distance priority that navit (or better the map generation) to this road assings is too low
11:43 < Number6> drlizau: Done
11:43 < Number6> Routed without any issue
11:43 <@cp15> sleske, yes, exactly
11:43 < sleske> cp15: Thanks. I feel I
11:44 < sleske> cp15: am beginning to understand things :-).
11:45 < Zaba> cp15, is there anything I could do about that?
11:45 <@cp15> Some further explanation... The bookmarks command calls itself when the user opens a new folder and data points to the name of the folder then
11:45 < Number6> drlizau: http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~number6/Screenshot-Navit.png
11:46 <@cp15> Zaba, do you have a linux machine? How much ram does it have?
11:46 < Zaba> yes, my netbook, with 4GB of RAM
11:46 <@cp15> A netbook with 4GB? Wow :-)
11:46 < Zaba> that's what I'm currently using navit on, too
11:48 <@cp15> Does St. Petersburg still belong to europe?
11:48 < sleske> cp15: Thanks, that makes sense. I already noticed that gui_internal_cmd_bookmarks calls itself. Now I know why.
11:48 < Zaba> cp15, for geographical purposes, yes
11:49 < sleske> cp15: Common agreement is that Europe extends to the Ural mountains, and St. Petersburg is west of the Ural.
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11:50 <@cp15> Ok, then please download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/russia-european-part.osm.bz2, create a navit map out of it with bzcat russia-european-part.osm.bz2 | maptool mymap.bin and verify that the error still exists in mymap.bin.
11:51 < Zaba> downloading
11:54 < Number6> drlizau: I can also route from Sydney to Perth. No modifications, just a fresh svn co and a selef generated map of Oz
11:57 < Number6> s/selef/self
12:01 < woglinde> re
12:03 < drlizau> Number6: I can't get out of Sydney
12:04 < Number6> drlizau: svn up, download Australia from http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/australia-oceania.osm.bz2
12:04 < Number6> Wait.. I have Oz computed. Give me a sec, I'll give you a link to my version
12:04 < Zaba> cp15, I get a lot of warnings, is that normal?
12:05 < korrosa> Zaba: Lots of warnings are normal when I compile!
12:05 < Zaba> okay
12:06 < woglinde> korrosa we should fix them
12:06 < Zaba> OSM Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/0 turn restriction: via member missing
12:06 < Zaba> and similar
12:06 < woglinde> hm reminds me to get libshape into extra stuff
12:06 < korrosa> Zaba: Yup, that's 'normal'.
12:06 < drlizau> Number6: http://pastebin.com/dJ1yyGqC
12:06 < korrosa> woglinde: You forget "I can't code"!
12:07 < woglinde> learn it
12:07 < drlizau> REviewing that as it flashed through trying to copy to the clipboard i see that is is doing circuits around central sydney
12:07 < woglinde> instead putting you head out of trainwindows
12:07 < drlizau> going under the harbour through the tunnel and then returnign over the harbour bridge
12:08 < Number6> drlizau: compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~number6/oz.bin <-- try that. It's just over 100MB big
12:08 < drlizau> source of data - download from navit site 11th June.
12:08 < drlizau> Data from same date in garmin format is routable on my garmin device
12:08 < Number6> drlizau: That data is too old, download that file. It's 10 minutes old :-)
12:09 < drlizau> the data is not the problem - the same stuff will run on the garmin
12:10 < drlizau> that stuff from you will take another 25mint o arrive here
12:10 < Number6> 25 minutes to download 100MB... Jesus
12:10 < Zaba> cp15, well, it has the same issue with my manually generated map.
12:11 < Zaba> cp15, guess I should try navit/maptool built from svn?
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12:11 < drlizau> its a long way from Ireland
12:12 < drlizau> I don't know where the holdup is, but iceweasel still says 30 min
12:12 < korrosa> woglinde: Lol!!
12:12 < drlizau> its going backwards
12:13 <@cp15> Zaba, yes
12:13 <@cp15> I see Number6 has already done a fix in there, but it might be a bit too hefty, creating larger and slower maps
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12:14 < Number6> cp15: Adding the highway? The increase in size isn't large
12:23 <@cp15> Number of tiles larger than 1 MB (which is horribly large) in planet-110613 89
12:24 <@cp15> In planet-110624 213
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12:24 <@cp15> That will give a considerably slowdown on everything
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12:26 < Number6> I didn't notice any huge slowdown on my WinCE device - and that's fairly shit
12:27 < Number6> Is there any other way we can do this?
12:28 <@cp15> On which areas have you tested it? If you just used ireland the effect is probably not so dramatic
12:28 <@cp15> Well, the 8 level is surely too low for street4, we have to find the highest level between 12 and 8 were routing works
12:28 < Zaba> cp15, I'll now generate a map with maptool from svn
12:29 <@cp15> Ok
12:29 < Number6> Ireland, UK, Spain and now Oz
12:29 < Zaba> and then check with a navit from svn whether the issue persists
12:29 < Zaba> unless my netbook overheats while generating the map :>
12:29 <@cp15> Zaba, navit version isn't that important
12:30 < Zaba> ok
12:38 < sleske> bye!
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12:39 < Zaba> cp15, it works with a map generated with maptool from svn
12:39 < drlizau> Number6: OK, it will route the distance
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12:39 < drlizau> what is the key?
12:39 < drlizau> why is your map different?
12:39 < woglinde_> re
12:40 < Zaba> cp15, for the case where it failed previously, and many others, anyway, but still not all, it seems.
12:41 < Zaba> I think the presence of vyborg confuses it
12:41 <@cp15> vyborg?
12:41 < Zaba> I can route to some parts of M-10, but not others
12:41 < Zaba> Выборг/vyborg, a city near the russian-finnish border
12:42 <@cp15> Ok, we will check that later
12:42 < Zaba> it generates a route from SPb to the part of M-10 close to vyborg just fine, but not to a part from M-10 close to the finnish border
12:42 <@cp15> First I have an optimization task to do for you
12:42 < Zaba> even though they are the same road
12:43 < Zaba> I suspect it's because for the former case it goes through vyborg, quite logically, and in the latter it tries to go around. Which, speaking from practice, is perfectly adequate and normal, but for some reason it fails.
12:44 < drlizau> Number6: my demo vehicle is lost in central Sydney and doing circuits at a major junction
12:45 < drlizau> so I'm not going to get to Adelaide
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12:47 <@cp15> Zaba, can you apply this diff http://pastebin.com/nSsqGAs9 to maptool, recreate the map and check whether that what worked now still works?
12:49 < drlizau> http://pastebin.com/rb0tm8nq is the repeating terminal output
12:50 < Zaba> regenerating now
13:03 < Zaba> cp15, with that patch, it fails just like with the non-latest-svn version
13:03 < Zaba> that is, like with the map from maps.navit-project.org
13:03 < Zaba> that is, it can't route far
13:04 < Zaba> damn, so many clarifications
13:04 <@cp15> Ok, then change max=11 to max=10 and try again
13:05 < drlizau> I've got mine on a 870km route at present, but at 40kmh the demo car is going to take a long while to get there
13:05 < drlizau> i'll have a sleep while robo-driver takes me to Adelaide from Griffith
13:05 < Zaba> okay, regenerating again
13:08 < Zaba> cp15, the version of navit itself doesn't matter, right? I've been testing it all with the one from the debian package, not svn
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13:10 <@cp15> Yes, doesn't matter
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13:14 < Zaba> cp15, ok, with max=10, it works for some long distances, but not all that worked with latest svn without patches
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13:17 <@cp15> For how many it doesn't work?
13:17 <@cp15> Compared to latest svn?
13:17 < Zaba> well, it can't reach the part of M-10 that's close to vyborg---it could with svn
13:17 < Zaba> but it can reach vyborg itself
13:18 <@cp15> Ok, then we have to optimize navit also... Now you need a self compiled version of it
13:18 < Zaba> I've already got that
13:18 < woglinde1> cp15 hm what would be the way to get in vehicle_gpsd if logging is enabled or not?
13:19 < Zaba> cp15, what should I change in navit itself? And should I revert the change to maptool?
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13:19 <@cp15> No, keep this change
13:22 <@cp15> Zaba, in route.c change route_rect(4, to route_rect(5,
13:25 < Zaba> hmm..
13:26 < woglinde1> cp15 do you have a win ce device?
13:26 < Zaba> cp15, when starting navit from the build directory, I get http://sprunge.us/CJah
13:27 < woglinde1> zaba you are missing the plugin libs
13:27 < Zaba> ah..
13:27 < woglinde1> check you config.log
13:27 < woglinde1> seems you didnt build for any gui or vehicle
13:28 < woglinde1> and even no map
13:28 < Zaba> it's just not looking in the build directory for them, that's why
13:30 <@cp15> woglinde1, yes
13:30 <@cp15> I don't understand the gpsd question
13:30 < Zaba> NAVIT_LIBDIR=navit/ NAVIT_LIBPREFIX='/*/.libs/' makes it work
13:30 < woglinde1> cp15 which one?
13:30 < Zaba> somehow
13:31 < woglinde1> cp15 could you test the patches from here
13:31 < woglinde1> they looks a bit better than the stuff we did to ce
13:31 < woglinde1> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/554
13:32 < Zaba> cp15, okay, with maptool and navit from svn and patched as per your suggestions, it starts being able to route that far again
13:32 < Zaba> but still not much farther..
13:33 < Zaba> but it doesn't seem to be worse than non-patched maptool from svn and navit from debian testing, at least
13:36 <@cp15> Ok, I will commit the maptool patch first
13:37 < woglinde1> cp15 reverting dandors patch from tryagain?
13:38 < CIA-85> martin-s * r4537 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/misc.c: Fix:maptool:Reduce priority of street_4 a bit
13:39 < woglinde1> hm okay
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15:55 < curious> hmm, btw. anyone wants the navit.xml config optimised for use for bike (with 2 additional vehicle profiles, one shortest path, and one traffic avoiding one) on lark wince unit?
15:56 < curious> with minimalist osd layout (just dr , odo, streets and few buttons for zooming and locking display)
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16:14 < tryagain> cp15 Patch for street4 is from http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/876. It also significantly improved routing for Russia. We have only a minimal set of roads which can be tagged with highway=motorway, most of backbone roads are just highway=trunk. As the latter translates to street4 by osm.c, I've rised their level to the one of motorways. The same is probably true for Australia, see my excepts from OSM wiki in trac ticket.
16:16 < tryagain> Making highway=trunk unavaliable for routing on arbitrary distances will break Navit usability for distant routing in Russia.
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20:27 < antenna1> navit crashes quite often while setting a destination; can sb confirm that?
20:27 < woglinde> uhm
20:27 < woglinde> please
20:27 < woglinde> make gdb backtraces
20:27 < woglinde> and provide them
20:30 < antenna1> woglinde: how can I get these backtraces?
20:31 < antenna1> gdb is installed
20:31 < woglinde> from console
20:31 < woglinde> if it is crashing
20:31 < woglinde> you get an automagic log
20:31 < woglinde> even better is when you compile with CFLAGS="-ggdb 2"
20:32 < woglinde> and dont strip the binaries
20:33 < antenna1> do you mean to run navit or gdb from console? I assume that log is in the console as well?
20:33 < woglinde> navit from console
20:34 < woglinde> yes
20:34 < woglinde> you could set a logfile too
20:35 < antenna1> navit > logfile.txt?
20:35 < woglinde> no
20:35 < woglinde> via NAVIT_DEBUG= env variable
20:36 < antenna1> what to do if it hangs now? Should I force quit?
20:37 < antenna1> that's probably going to be important for you:
20:37 < antenna1> *** glibc detected *** navit: double free or corruption (out): 0x00000000021d3fc0 ***
20:37 < woglinde> pastebin
20:39 < antenna1> sorry, I posted that glib line twice, only the last one counts:
20:39 < antenna1> http://pastebin.com/rMEmwVKp
20:40 < woglinde> hm nothing more?
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20:42 < antenna1> nothing that matters I guess, only that I used some accesskeys, oh and it failed creating the attribute autozoom_secs with value 20
20:43 < woglinde> hm could you change the debug option in navit.xml
20:43 < woglinde> so it stays in gdb
20:43 < woglinde> and run bt manually
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20:45 < antenna1> how to do that? and what's bt?
20:46 < antenna1> do you mean to enable the log?
20:46 < antenna1> but how can I make it to stay in gdb?
20:47 < woglinde> bt is the short version for backtrace inside gdb
20:47 < woglinde>
20:47 < woglinde>
20:48 < woglinde> or start gdb navit
20:48 < woglinde> run
20:48 < woglinde> and if it is crashing
20:48 < woglinde> do bt
20:54 < antenna1> well, how can I do bt?
20:55 < antenna1> I set the level to 2 now
20:55 < woglinde> ?
20:55 < woglinde> hm better user the other approach
20:55 < woglinde> start navit via gdb
20:55 < woglinde> gdb navit
20:55 < woglinde> run
20:58 < antenna1> ok, I did, but in the console there is not more information. Again there is glibc detected and a different code
20:58 < woglinde> ?
20:58 < woglinde> does the crash occur or not
20:58 < woglinde> if yes
20:58 < woglinde> type bt or backtrace
20:58 < antenna1> it hangs up
20:59 < woglinde> hm
20:59 < woglinde> disable the segv stuff
20:59 < woglinde> again
20:59 < woglinde> try 0
20:59 < antenna1> ok
20:59 < antenna1> it's not gdb hanging up, it navit;
21:00 < antenna1> then I stopped navit with ctrl c and got back to the gdb console
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21:01 < antenna1> that's what I got:
21:01 < antenna1> http://pastebin.com/GrRj0dmN
21:02 < antenna1> do you still want to me to set segv to zero?
21:02 < woglinde> yes
21:02 < woglinde> this dont helps for the double free
21:05 < antenna1> alright, set to zero:http://pastebin.com/hA4k2dZQ
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21:07 < antenna1> woglinde: sorry, I meant it's not crashing, but freezing, it just hangs up
21:09 < woglinde> yes
21:09 < woglinde> so this is diffrent from the doublefree
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21:10 < woglinde> hm is this with your two maps?
21:13 < antenna1> nope, only one map, but several csv files; this used to happen for a long time now. We already talked about that one, do you remember?
21:13 < woglinde> I remember dark we already were at the bt stage
21:14 < woglinde> why you forgot how to use gdb
21:14 < woglinde> *g*
21:16 < antenna1> last time I didn't use it, I just gave you the output of navit from console. Probably because I didn't understand how you wanted me to use gdb. :)
21:19 < CIA-85> martin-s * r4538 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (maptool.c maptool.h osm.c): Add:maptool:Make adding of unknown country towns an option to avoid bloated index
21:19 < woglinde> hm can you try to disable cvs again
21:23 < antenna1> I did, same issue. After some tries I can get it to freeze. My ram is quite short, maybe that's the problem.
21:24 < antenna1> i will try again
21:26 < woglinde> yes
21:26 < woglinde> that might be a problem
21:27 < antenna1> I set different speedcam attributes in item_def.h, is that a problem?
21:31 < antenna1> well, it's short, but not too. 520 of 750mb used. Still it's freezing
21:32 < antenna1> maybe cp15 know sth about it. http://pastebin.com/t2PWggAX
21:35 < woglinde> is it still freeze on the same code line?
21:39 < antenna1> ?
21:39 < woglinde> *sigh*
21:39 < woglinde> at graphics.c:859
21:39 < woglinde> thats the last codeline inside navit
21:41 < antenna1> yes, it is.
21:41 < antenna1> all the pastes I gave you were specifically for each change
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21:57 <@cp15> antenna1, does the problem also occur with a standard navit.xml?
21:57 < antenna1> cp15 hold on, didn't try that yet
22:06 < antenna1> cp15: I set 15 bookmark destinations and no freeze until now. It really might be my xml, too bad it didn't try until now because I was too lazy. I will clean up my xml and tell you whether is still occurs. Do you want to take a look at it?
22:12 <@cp15> Well, if possible try to find out which change in your navit.xml causes the problem
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22:17 < tryagain> hi
22:17 < tryagain> woglinde there are seem to be bad news for http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/554 (attached to ticket). Did not tried it on WinCE though.
22:26 < woglinde> tryagain cp15 is here too
22:26 < woglinde> today
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22:28 < woglinde> hm what about the fullscreen patch?
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22:31 < tryagain> I dislike that fullscreen patch because of aygshell. And it did not apply cleanly, I wasn't tried it to do that by hand. Also it should give no interference with Desktop Windows version, probably will try it on CE.
22:32 < woglinde> it dont apply cleanly because we changed it too
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22:40 < tryagain> hm What if we had in vehicleprofile something like this:
22:41 <@cp15> Yes, I also thought about something like this
22:42 < tryagain> If I got the idea, the order is somehow corresponding to level in maptool/misc.c?
22:44 <@cp15> max is the maximum lenght of the tile name
22:44 <@cp15> And order=length of the tile name-4
22:45 < tryagain> ah, got it! -4!
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22:46 < tryagain> Also we could have also minimalStreetLevel attribute inside to get not all ways from given tile level, but only thouse of class equal or above given. So we can skip less significant ways from route graph even if they are at the same tile level as significant ones.
22:48 <@cp15> That will be hard, since small roads might have also a high tile level (because low tile levels with small amount of data are merged to higher tile levels)
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22:58 < tryagain> Probably bad name for minimalStreetLevel. I mean So from tiles of order=4 and larger tiles we will select only streets which are of type street4 or higway. Streets of type street3 and lower will never be taken into account, even if they connect two points, one to the North and one to the South from Equator.
22:59 < tryagain> bed is calling... see you!
23:00 <@cp15> But if you want to route across the equator? You can't find out whether you get the street from order=4 or order=8 request
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