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07:46 <@Horwitz> morgen
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09:44 -!- Topic for #navit: The open source vector based navigation program with routing engine. See http://wiki.navit-project.org. Please be patient if you don't get a response immediately. Please use http://navit.pastebin.com for your pastes! Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter.
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09:58 < Number6> cp15: Maps5 can be brought back up
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09:59 < dandor> hi antenna1
10:00 < antenna1> hi dandor
10:00 < dandor> do you have some time to debug the speedcam problem?
10:01 < antenna1> yea, just let me switch to ubuntu - brb
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10:04 < antenna1> alright, so how can I help you?
10:06 < dandor> can zou paste me an extract from your speedcam file?
10:08 < dandor> also if zou have svn version of navit greater that 4575 you can inspect the attriutes of csv pois from navit
10:08 < antenna1> http://speedcamerapoi.com/download.php
10:08 < antenna1> just get one of these for germany
10:11 < antenna1> how can I inspect the attributes?
10:12 < antenna1> did I give you the xml for the speedcam already?
10:13 < dandor> which format did zou use?
10:14 < dandor> click on map near the camera ->actions->globe with coords->POIS->click on the TEC_common poi->attributes
10:14 < dandor> yep the xml would be useful also
10:15 < dandor> especially for the csv map definition
10:17 <@cp15> Number6, oh, that was quick
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10:19 < Number6> cp15: It was just a kernel update. The actual downtime was only about 15 minutes
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10:21 <@cp15> I will update the map extractor in a few minutes... The new update will allow one to do a wget -c on an aborted download of an extract
10:22 < woglinde> cp15 cool
10:22 < antenna1> http://pastebin.com/Q55dygfF
10:24 < Number6> Nice one
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10:26 < dandor> antenna1, this seems ok
10:29 < antenna1> dandor iGO8
10:29 < dandor> antenna1, there are several csv formats in use for speedcams,so can you paste your csv map line in the xml and an extract from your csv file also?
10:31 < antenna1> dandor: pastebin.com/ijSSPQL8
10:31 < antenna1> that's the one I gave you a few days ago
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10:47 < dandor> antenna1, what do you see in the attribute list of a speedcam poi?
10:56 < antenna1> tec type, direction, longitude, latitude and maxspeed
10:56 < antenna1> dandor do you still need an extract from the csv? Pastebin is currently in read only mode
11:02 < dandor> antenna1, waht is the value of tec_type?
11:02 < antenna1> 3
11:03 < dandor> hm that should be ok
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11:06 < dandor> antenna1, no need for extract if you see the correct values for the attributes then it is loaded correctly
11:08 < antenna1> dandor; does it work for you or can you confirm this issue?
11:09 < dandor> here it works correctlyx
11:14 < tryagain> cp15 korrosa done another nice crash. Ideed that's a POI with area of less than 1. We have to move area/=2 before if(area!=0). Your suggestion to check for >1 is wrong, as area is supposed to be signed here, it may be, say, -100.
11:18 <@cp15> Even better, change the /6 to /3 and keep area as it is
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11:28 < dandor> antenna1, are you using the demo vehicle?
11:34 < antenna1> dandor nope
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13:22 < zkab> I try to bind keys (+ to zoom_in) and (- to zoom_out) but nothing happens when pressing these keys
13:22 < zkab> I have following:
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13:40 < korrosa> zkab: Can you try the keybinding with a keyboard letter first, just to check that it works: use_overlay="1" command="zoom_in()" accesskey="x"
13:40 < korrosa> Also, what version of Navit are you using?
13:44 < korrosa> And on what device?
13:44 < zkab> accesskey="x" changes the zoom level but it distorts the map. I have navit 0.2.0
13:46 < zkab> Navit runs on my asus netbook eeepc1000he under Linuxmint
13:47 < korrosa> zkab: Please define "distorts the map". Also, can you paste the results of the command "navit -v" in a terminal?
13:50 < korrosa> Sorry. Do the command "navit -v" in a terminal, and paste the results here in irc!
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13:51 < zkab> navit -v gives 'navit 0.2.0'
13:52 < zkab> what I mean with distortion is that the lower part of the map is squeezed from left & right sizes
14:34 < korrosa> zkab: Can you provide a screenshot of the distortion? Perhaps upload to imgur.com and paste the link back here.
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14:49 < zkab> You can see the map at imgur.com/pgeXT. Look at the left/down corner and you can see how it is squeezed together
14:51 < korrosa> Wow, that does look strange - almost like 3D at the bottom, and 2D at the top! I run Navit on an Acer One netbook on Ubuntu (basically the same as you) and have never had this problem! Does it do the same if you click on the zoom out button, instead of using the keybinding?
14:52 < zkab> No - the zoom in/out buttons work OK
14:54 < korrosa> Can you paste your entire navit.xml to pastebin.com and leave the url here?
14:55 < korrosa> I suspect OSD items are interfering with each other.
14:56 <@cp15> zkab, are you using a gtk gui?
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14:57 <@cp15> I assume yes, this makes gtk intercept the key presses, and x will lead to a rotation of the map
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15:04 < zkab> Pls check pastebin.com/T3fCpWuN
15:05 < zkab> Yes I am using gtk gui
15:06 < zkab> how can gtk interception be avoided
15:13 < korrosa> zkab: cp15 mentions that the x key is the problem, so change your acceskey to something else, like 'd'. use_overlay="1" command="zoom_in()" accesskey="d"
15:22 < korrosa> cp15: Perhaps a list of keys which gtk intercepts? Or where to find in source?
15:23 < zkab> I changed zoom_in to "d" and zoom_out to "c". Pressing c nothing happens, pressing d rotates the map
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15:30 < korrosa> Hmm, OK, seems like GTK intercepts *all* key presses! Perhaps change the gui to internal - that'll work in the short-term!
15:30 < antenna1> korrosa: do you know if the patch of ticket #859 is included yet? I thought it was
15:31 < korrosa> antenna1: Almost all of it, the only bit missing is the poi icons for areas.
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15:34 < antenna1> korrosa: mh, I just installed a fresh version, processed my own map and it seems not be in there. Some pois are not shown anymore and the house numbers are missing as well.
15:37 < korrosa> antenna1: cp15 or tryagain will be able to answer better. I'm not a good judge because my copy has been patched so many times I'm not sure what's patch and what's clean SVN!
15:39 < woglinde> cp15 to which email I can forward you an email?
15:39 < woglinde> cp15 the navit one?
15:39 <@cp15> [[REDACTED EMAIL ADDRESS]] if it is navit related
15:39 < woglinde> it has to do with navit
15:39 < woglinde> in some cases
15:44 <@cp15> The data model seems a bit strange district -> house number -> streeet?
15:44 < woglinde> didnt looked that up
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15:58 <@cp15> Arghh... Damn, shouldn't have put my email in there... Happy spam sorting
15:59 < woglinde> where?
16:01 < korrosa> cp15: Ask Number6 to remove that line from the logs.
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16:02 < zkab> korrosa: have you checked my navit.xml ?
16:04 < korrosa> zkab: No, but it seems that gtk gui doesn't play nice with keybindings. I suggested changing to internal gui - has this worked?
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--- Log opened Mon Jul 04 20:13:26 2011
20:14 < Number6> Although I could do a script that would do that
20:14 < korrosa> I was just trolling!
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20:17 < NavitLogger> I feel much better now
20:18 < korrosa> woglinde: is http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/515 still an issue?
20:18 < korrosa> (I only ask as you may know what the last comment is all about...)
20:21 < woglinde> korrosa as usal
20:21 < woglinde> leave a comment
20:21 < woglinde> still an issue
20:21 < woglinde> next time close
20:21 < woglinde> if no answer
20:22 < korrosa> I just wondered if you knew whether those g_free things had been added or not!
20:22 < woglinde> ah I think cp15 fixed it at weekend
20:22 < woglinde> mom
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20:23 < woglinde> http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit?view=revision&revision=4556
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20:27 < korrosa> Cool, thanks!
20:28 < woglinde> hm point it to this
20:28 < woglinde> and ask if it fixes it
20:30 < korrosa> Done and done.
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20:49 < Number6> http://irclogs.navit.ie/stats/
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20:55 < korrosa> Booyaaa! Second most active member, bitches!!
20:55 < korrosa> (loving my random message!)
20:56 < korrosa> Lol, and I'm the third most used word!! Ha!
20:57 < korrosa> "korrosa yells a lot !" WHAT?!
20:57 < korrosa> "antenna1 doesn't know wether to stay or quit" and "antenna1 asks a lot of questions ?"
20:58 < korrosa> Haha, best logger ever!
20:58 < woglinde> korrosa see the bot likes you
20:58 < korrosa> Who doesn't, eh?!
20:59 < Mineque> korrosa: zoff? he like nobody ;p
20:59 < Number6> Hah - "i used to do all stuff as root, in slackware..."
21:00 < Mineque> Number6: that's bad? :D
21:00 < woglinde> hm I learned zoff has now his own navit variant
21:01 < Mineque> woglinde: fork? navzoff?
21:01 < Mineque> P
21:01 < korrosa> woglinde: Good, and I really hope it does work as there's no Android development or ticket management going on over here!
21:02 < woglinde> Znavit
21:02 < woglinde> my collegues ask mit which version he should use
21:03 < woglinde> so he asked me what Znavit is
21:03 < woglinde> and I asked "what?"
21:03 < Number6> Isn't that a bit cheek
21:06 < Mineque> navdroid ;]
21:09 < korrosa> woglinde: How on earth did your colleague find that? I can't find it on Google...
21:10 < woglinde> market
21:10 < Number6> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zoffcc.applications.zanavi&feature=search_result
21:11 < korrosa> Ah, it's ZANavi
21:11 < woglinde> oh ups
21:11 < woglinde> sorry
21:11 < woglinde> my fault
21:12 < Mineque> ZANavi is heavily based on Navit (by Martin Schaller)
21:12 < Mineque> i guess 99% is from navit
21:12 < Mineque> he could make own logo at least...
21:13 < woglinde> yes
21:13 < Mineque> not using two from other projects
21:13 < woglinde> sue him sue him
21:13 < Mineque> and adroid is rather copyright
21:14 < korrosa> Come on now, I think it's a good thing. There's been no real advance with the Android build of Navit since zoff left, and as much as I hate his people skills what he did seemed to work.
21:14 < Number6> Surely it should be part of the main branch, and not a fork of a fork
21:15 < korrosa> As in the Navit branch? He was kicked off the dev team, as far as I know.
21:15 < Number6> Since he was given, pretty much, free will over the Android port
21:15 < woglinde> only cp15 if he asked nicely to get commit rights back
21:16 < woglinde> besides that on linuxtag some people said his android code is shitty
21:16 < korrosa> But it worked?
21:17 < korrosa> (I'm just coming at this from the perspective of an end user)
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21:37 < curious> heh, android still has no ability to run linux apps via some software like wine?
21:37 < woglinde> ?
21:38 < curious> well, just got surprised
21:39 < BrainDamage> android can run linux apps, but it has no Xorg
21:39 < korrosa> Oh, BrainDamage, you still need advice on the toll roads question?
21:40 < curious> hmm. but navit can run on sdl/directfb , so why it should need Xorg
21:40 < BrainDamage> I run navit on android ok
21:40 < BrainDamage> korrosa: I saw the ticket close, I followed the instructions in the other ticket and worked
21:40 < BrainDamage> thanks
21:40 < korrosa> Ah, OK, cool! :)
21:40 < BrainDamage> I think there should be a default profile for it tough
21:40 < BrainDamage> as in, I think it's a common usage case
21:41 < korrosa> BrainDamage: Agreed.
21:41 < woglinde> hm which bug?
21:41 < curious> BrainDamage, thx for explainations :)
21:42 < BrainDamage> curious: usually the problem of running stuff in android, is that it has no real package manager for shared libs
21:42 <@cp15> zoff wasn't kicked from the dev team, I just denied him further write access and told him to work together with rikky to clean up the mess he made first before working on new stuff
21:42 < BrainDamage> so you end up statically linking most of the stuff
21:42 < korrosa> woglinde: Type "toll" in trac search.
21:42 < korrosa> cp15: Thanks for the clarification.
21:42 < woglinde> ah toll roads
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21:46 < zoff99> hi
21:47 < zoff99> korrosa: u been talking about me ;)
21:47 < woglinde> lol
21:47 < zoff99> only bad things i hope
21:48 < woglinde> no
21:48 < woglinde> we are courius why you dont work together with us anymore
21:48 < zoff99> i want to, you know that
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21:49 < woglinde> hm thats why you did znavi
21:49 < zoff99> i talked about it with cp15, and i guess this is the result
21:49 <@cp15> zoff99, what are you doing here?
21:50 < zoff99> and i did not advertise the "new" name here, thought it would not be ok
21:50 < zoff99> cp15: hey am i banned from irc now?
21:50 <@cp15> Well, a few other things I find not ok:
21:50 < woglinde> zoff99 not advertising was not a good move
21:50 <@cp15> You are using the navit icon which is already used for "our" navit version also, please use another one
21:51 <@cp15> You are violating the GPL, I can't find your sources
21:51 < zoff99> oh? its opensource is it not?
21:51 < woglinde> image might be cc
21:51 <@cp15> Please set up your own map server
21:51 < woglinde> but the other code not
21:51 < zoff99> come on now, we talked about all this. i am working every minute to do all that
21:51 < woglinde> ?
21:52 < zoff99> remember i did all the market texts and icons from the free navit icon, which is CC if i remember correctly
21:52 < woglinde> sure
21:52 < woglinde> but soft is gpl
21:53 < woglinde> if you distribute it
21:53 < zoff99> cp15: giving me a hard time now, after we discussed this before hand, is not really too nice
21:53 < woglinde> you need either supply a written offer where the source code could be accessed
21:53 <@cp15> We discussed that before: If you use too many ressources I will take measures
21:53 <@cp15> And you are using too many resources on our map server
21:54 < zoff99> i put the source on the wiki, as soon as i get some sleep.
21:54 < woglinde> zoff99 please go read here http://gpl-violations.org/
21:54 < zoff99> cp15: working on mapserver already
21:54 <@cp15> Any endtime?
21:54 < zoff99> cp15: and you have 40.000 users and i have 300 so how much resources are "my" users using??
21:54 < zoff99> i was really expecting u to act this way, shame
21:55 < woglinde> ?
21:55 < zoff99> blocking , and not working together as i wanted
21:55 < woglinde> ?
21:55 < woglinde> if you dont follow the rules
21:55 < woglinde> dont expect all people will play nice
21:57 < zoff99> hey i already said. i will put it up as soon as i can
21:57 < zoff99> anyway thanks to korrosa to at least give some positive feedback about it :)
21:57 < zoff99> u da man
21:57 < Number6> If you are working on it, why did you not wait until you had everything ready before launching? Infrastructure like the mapservers just doesn't magically happen
21:58 < woglinde> zoff99 thats nothing personal
21:58 < zoff99> because i could not know that maptool has so many bugs that i needed 1 week to fix that damn thing
21:59 < zoff99> on 64bit unbuntu it just crashes all the time, and on 32bit it just does stupid things with seek and long long
22:00 <@cp15> Strange it works for everyone else
22:00 < Number6> Maptool is very little of the mapserver. How are you going to do simple things like pull an area from the computed planet? How will you make sure that your server will not die half way through a transfer? This is utter tripe
22:01 < zoff99> i wont, its a crappy system. let me worry about that
22:01 < zoff99> in a couple of day it will be on
22:02 < zoff99> why dont u fix the android version, instead of dissing me, that what i wondered all these months
22:02 < woglinde> give me 98h a day
22:03 < zoff99> well if poeple are finding my version good, fine. if not fine also. at least i dont only dis and block
22:03 < zoff99> ok, so see ya soon
22:03 < woglinde> ?
22:04 < woglinde> we dont dis you
22:04 < woglinde> and we dont block
22:04 < zoff99> i still hope it will be some sort of co-op in a way
22:04 < woglinde> but you surely dont understand about licenses
22:04 < woglinde> sure
22:04 < woglinde> I may look at your source code and copy stuff over
22:04 < woglinde> that's what gpl is too about
22:04 < zoff99> i sure do, and i did tell it in advance. no objections were made
22:05 < zoff99> yeah but then u have to also keep my copyright header, or the things i have done
22:05 < woglinde> and?
22:05 < woglinde> I have no problem with this
22:05 < zoff99> there should be only one (android port that is)
22:08 < woglinde> you forked it
22:08 < woglinde> sorry
22:09 < zoff99> and i even did not make advertising on this channel for it
22:10 < woglinde> did you think we wont notice it?
22:11 < zoff99> u get it wrong, as all i say
22:11 < zoff99> i could have, but i though that would not be correct to get users from here
22:11 < zoff99> but now i will do it then
22:11 < BrainDamage> sorry for butting in, as I don't belong to the discussion, but my understanding is that they wanted a word from you about it
22:11 < woglinde> zoff99 navit is your first opensource community project where you did particpate right?
22:12 < BrainDamage> not advertising, but at least some talk about it
22:12 < zoff99> no :)
22:12 < zoff99> cp15 know all the way about it
22:12 < woglinde> braindamage the problem is zoff99 thinks we are blocking his work
22:13 < woglinde> so he forked
22:14 < woglinde> and didnt tell us
22:14 < zoff99> i couldnt have knifed you know
22:15 < woglinde> okay need to switch computer
22:15 < woglinde> till few minutes
22:15 < korrosa> woglinde: As I understand it cp15 was made aware of the fork, and I do think zoff99 has mentioned at least once that he wanted to fork the project, if I remember correctly. Can't be arsed to search the logs, but just getting my words in.
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22:23 < korrosa> shhh, he's back now. Quiet everyone.
22:23 < woglinde> lol
22:24 < woglinde> sure I am the bad guy
22:24 < zoff99> i thought i was ? :)
22:25 < zoff99> btw. navit homepage:
22:25 < zoff99> http://www.navit.k12.az.us/
22:25 < woglinde> hm maybee right thing would have been to give zoff his own branch
22:26 < woglinde> but I think that is impossible with the sf setup and svn
22:27 < zoff99> and i found the icon is CC:
22:27 <@KaZeR> http://www.navit.k12.az.us/ bottom picture. from left to right : Horwitz, me, cp15
22:27 < zoff99> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Navit_icon.png
22:28 < zoff99> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_navit.png
22:28 < woglinde> zoff yes
22:28 < woglinde> andcp15 aks you kindly to please use another logo
22:28 < zoff99> so i will also have to put my logo up on the site
22:29 < zoff99> if i dont get more than 300 users, i will not bother to make a new logo.
22:30 < zoff99> so see ya
22:30 < zoff99> good night guys
22:30 < woglinde> nite zoff
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22:45 < BrainDamage> another question before opening another feature request: is there an option to make navit automatically toggle colour layout according to the time of the day?
22:45 < korrosa> BrainDamage: yes
22:45 <@cp15> This is even the default afaik
22:46 < BrainDamage> mmm, I must have screwed my config then, lemme try a pristine one
22:46 < korrosa> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit/Full_list_of_options
22:46 < korrosa>
22:48 < BrainDamage> mmm, the android port is ignoring it?
22:49 < korrosa> cp15: Where is night/day defined in the code?
22:49 <@cp15> BrainDamage, I assume the android layout doesn't have a nightlayout tag
22:50 < Number6> navit.c, korrosa
22:51 < BrainDamage> ah, it seems everytime I lauch it resets layout to android-car
22:51 < BrainDamage> which explains why no auto toggle then
22:51 < BrainDamage> I guess I'll have to edit the xml file to change default
22:54 < korrosa> Number6: Wow, OK, are sunrise/sunset times calculated? More complex than I thought!
22:55 < Number6> Yarp, korrosa. Take a look at sunriset_
22:55 < Number6> in navit.c
22:56 < korrosa> Yeah, I saw. Poor Southerners!
22:56 < Number6> Pfft, serves them right
22:59 < BrainDamage> btw, may I suggest a small ui overhaul for the android port? the current placement of the functions are a bit confusing IMHO
23:00 < BrainDamage> for instance, the integrated downloader is accessible trough the menu button, which is usually used instead for quick access options, such as "zoom to my location"
23:00 < BrainDamage> while the integrated downloader, is used quite rarely
23:01 < BrainDamage> it's mostly a number of clicks necessary vs amount of times I want to access it argument
23:02 < korrosa> Hm, there may be a similar ticket at trac already. If not, could you start one?
23:02 < woglinde> braindamage zoff invented it this way
23:02 < woglinde> I think
23:03 < woglinde> but I am not 100% sure
23:03 < korrosa> Let me get you a spade, woglinde...
23:04 < woglinde> korrosa
23:04 < woglinde> thats nothing perosnal
23:04 < woglinde> *sigh*
23:04 < woglinde> korrosa other people at linuxtag said the same that it isnt optimal for them
23:05 < korrosa> :) Hm, perhaps the English saying doesn't translate well! Never mind!
23:05 < woglinde> I am perosnal fine with it
23:06 < korrosa> Good, good! Well, tonight's been fun! Night all!
23:06 < BrainDamage> basically, current interface resembles more like most standalone navigators, while other navigator apps on smartphones tend to have a different interface of their own
23:07 < Number6> Night korrosa. The English didn't translate well
23:07 < woglinde> note korrosa
23:07 < BrainDamage> gn
23:07 < BrainDamage> imho, the smartphone-like way is cleaner, as in, it gives you quicker access to the most used functionality
23:07 < woglinde> ups nite
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23:29 <@cp15> BrainDamage, in the long term I want to drop the android downloader and implement something platform-independent
23:30 <@cp15> But thanks for the hint. Any other ideas what to improve? Since there is now a competition between zoff and us (or me?) we need to be ahead :-)
23:30 < BrainDamage> ahahah
23:31 < BrainDamage> ok, let me try to build a short list
23:31 < BrainDamage> the hardware search button, should bring up location search
23:32 < BrainDamage> it would be better if it'd use the android software keyboard, instead of rolling it's own, but I can understand why you chose not to ( so similar code runs on diff platforms )
23:33 < BrainDamage> download maps could be placed under tools menu, altought I can imagine it would be harder for a first time user to find it then, perhaps use a whole main section for it?
23:33 < BrainDamage> the show locale functionality is kinda useless for the avg user
23:35 < BrainDamage> under the action menu, I would label things differently, instead of showing local coordinates, I would instead write "current location actions"
23:37 < BrainDamage> under visualize, the 2d/3d button could be clearer, as in, it's not obvious what state it's currently in, it says 2d, but does that means it switches to 3d, or that it's currently in 3d mode?
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23:37 < BrainDamage> changing the text to "switch to 3d" and "switch to 2d" would solve it
23:39 < tryagain_> Hi! http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859 updated. Good night ;)
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23:43 <@cp15> That was a fast visit..
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23:48 < woglinde> hehe
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