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07:04 <@Horwitz> morgen
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09:13 < woglinde> hm boundary support
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09:13 < woglinde> so address searching will be better
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09:23 <@cp15> First step is to make searching for town work better, next step is searching for streets
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09:25 < woglinde> cp15 is there support needed in navit it self?
09:25 < woglinde> or works it out of the box?
09:25 <@cp15> Most likely it will work out of the box, but it might have some performance problems
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09:26 < woglinde> okay
09:26 < woglinde> maybee this evening I find some time to test it
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10:35 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4622 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/maptool.c: Fix:maptool:Made -b option work
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11:21 < Number6> Morning
11:28 < woglinde> hi number6
11:29 < Number6> Hey, woglinde
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13:15 < BrainDamage> can I mix % and pixel size coordinates in navit.xml? because this seems to not work: <osd type="button" src="gui_zoom_in_48_48.png" command="zoom_in()" x="45%" y="-48" osd_configuration="1"/>
13:15 < BrainDamage> by not work, I mean it gets placed on bottom left corner of the screen
13:18 <@cp15> Does it work if you use only % values?
13:19 < BrainDamage> nope
13:19 < BrainDamage> <osd type="button" src="gui_zoom_in_48_48.png" command="zoom_in()" x="45%" y="50%" osd_configuration="1"/>
13:19 < BrainDamage> gets placed in top left instead of center
13:21 < BrainDamage> also. I'm trying to make the empty black frames to disappear when not routing, with poor results, I used <osd type="navigation_next_turn" x="0" y="0" w="56" h="29" icon_src="%s_wh_59_59.png" osd_configuration="1" cond='navit.route.route_status&amp;52'/>
13:22 < BrainDamage> by poor results, I mean the frame is always present
13:36 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4623 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (6 files): Add:maptool:Better resolving strategy for relations
13:41 < woglinde> uhm ah 59_59
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13:42 < woglinde> I am in doubt we are producing the png in this format
13:42 <@cp15> That is probably for android there it is set as a configure parameter
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13:42 < BrainDamage> you are, because that's straight from default navit.xml, and I also checked the .apk archive, and it's present
13:43 < woglinde> ah okay
13:43 < BrainDamage> not being able to use relative positioning is kinda annoying if you're placing something other than the edges
13:43 < woglinde> hm I wonder if we can use svg directly on android
13:43 < BrainDamage> because if I tilt my phone, and it rotates into landscape view, using absolute positioning gives off weird locations
13:44 <@cp15> woglinde, no, svn isn't supported
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13:44 <@cp15> BrainDamage, maybe I have time to look into that later
13:44 < BrainDamage> thanks
13:44 < woglinde> cp15 hm looks like there are some projects
13:44 < woglinde> to cover this
13:45 < woglinde> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/android/AndroidImageViewSVG.aspx
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13:46 < woglinde> BrainDamage wouldnt it a task for you to implement svg support?
13:47 < BrainDamage> I'm in the middle of exams, already procastinating atm
13:48 < woglinde> *g*
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13:49 < woglinde> hm development of the "lib" seems to stuck anyway
13:49 <@cp15> It will suck anyways unless integrated into android
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13:50 < woglinde> oh it isnt
13:50 < woglinde> I mean its still developed
13:53 < woglinde> hm besides the modified libexpat jpeg png zlib and libsvg it doesnt look this bad
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13:57 < woglinde> *sigh* another task I could play with
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14:02 < woglinde> kazer looks a little bit unstable
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14:23 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4624 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (boundaries.c osm_relations.c): Fix:maptool:Let boundaries use new relation mechanism
14:23 < woglinde> yeah
14:24 <@cp15> So now it just need to work
14:24 <@cp15> The first test wasn't very promising
14:24 <@cp15> The search index for spain covered the whole world and was 64 MB big
14:25 < woglinde> uh
14:26 <@cp15> Probably there country polygon was so broken it collected nearly all towns
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14:28 < woglinde> yeah
14:28 < woglinde> poor osm data
14:28 < woglinde> ;)
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14:40 < woglinde> re antenna1
14:40 < antenna1> hi woglinde
15:02 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4625 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (boundaries.c maptool.h osm.c): Add:maptool:Better boundary error diagnostics
15:40 < CIA-69> mdankov * r4626 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Add:gui_internal:Allow increment search distance by 10, 50, 100km
15:40 < woglinde> uh yeah
15:45 <@cp15> 100km? That will take forever
15:49 < woglinde> *g*
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16:01 < Number6> Ah, the POI Search out to 200km doesn't take too long
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16:33 <@cp15> Maybe in ireland
16:34 < woglinde> *g*
16:35 < BrainDamage> why should it take long? what format are they stored in? I mean, a SQLite query over 2M entries for distance^2 shouldn't take more than few s
16:37 <@cp15> A larger city will have already 2M objects
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17:09 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4627 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/ (boundaries.c maptool.h): Add:maptool:Save country boundaries for debugging
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17:43 < BrainDamage> mmm, I cannot find the gui tag to control the icon of the position indicator, I would like to replace the circle with an arrow, anyone knows what is, or where I could search for it? wiki doesn't seem to mention
17:43 <@cp15> search for <cursor> in <layout>
17:44 < BrainDamage> thanks
17:46 <@cp15> There is a layout in the wiki which uses the enterprise as cursor if you want an example
17:48 < BrainDamage> yes, I just found the entry for several templates now that I knew what to search, thanks
17:50 <@cp15> You can even make a simple animation if I remember right
17:53 < BrainDamage> arrow should suffice, at least I can get heading direction
17:54 <@cp15> Hmm... But isn't there an arrow already?
17:57 < BrainDamage> no
17:57 < BrainDamage> there's a simple circle
17:57 <@cp15> Only if you don't move
17:58 <@cp15> I hope at least :-)
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18:00 < BrainDamage> mmm, I didn't notice if there was any line while moving
18:01 < BrainDamage> oh, and is there a xml section for the "menu" hardware button?
18:01 < BrainDamage> because I cannot find it, I'd like to tweak that
18:03 <@cp15> No, there isn't... It is hardcoded in the android version. What would you like to change?
18:04 < BrainDamage> remove the useless "---" section, add icons ( if possible ) for some of the buttons
18:04 < BrainDamage> add a "go to my location" button
18:05 < BrainDamage> and a "navigate to" button
18:05 < BrainDamage> also, a shortcut to main menu
18:06 < BrainDamage> btw, regards the empty black boxes, this screenshot shows them well:
18:06 < BrainDamage> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/File:3D-arrow-head.png
18:06 < BrainDamage> I'm trying to tweak a bit the menus & gui atm
18:07 < BrainDamage> I'm trying to get the gui elements to disappear by adding, but it doesn't seem t work :/ cond='navit.route.route_status&amp;52'
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18:07 < korrosa> Tester up!
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18:10 <@cp15> korrosa, did the roundabouts work fine for you so far?
18:10 < korrosa> cp15: Yup, no problems. Haven't driven anywhere other than left-sided countries though...
18:12 <@cp15> Ok, then I will commit it
18:13 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4628 /trunk/navit/navit/navigation.c: Fix:Core:Generate right (left?) maneuvers for people driving on the wrong side
18:14 < BrainDamage> rofl
18:17 < korrosa> Woah, woah, woah - we were there first!!
18:17 < korrosa> Also, compile fails when bulding inside maptool.
18:17 <@cp15> What fails?
18:17 < korrosa> /home/tiiiim/navit/navit/navit/maptool/boundaries.c:261: undefined reference to `relations_process'
18:17 < korrosa> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
18:18 < korrosa> make[4]: *** [maptool] Error 1
18:18 <@cp15> Have you a file osm_relations.c?
18:19 < korrosa> Nope
18:19 < korrosa> Oh, yeah I do.
18:19 < korrosa> (Should learn to read!)
18:20 <@cp15> Strange, autogen should have updated the makefiles
18:20 < korrosa> cp15: I didn't do an ./autogen.sh
18:20 < korrosa> Perhaps that's the problem...!
18:20 <@cp15> Can you run ./autogen.sh and ./configure again and tell me whether this changes something?
18:21 <@cp15> No, the autotools should detect the need to run autogen.sh and configure automatically
18:21 < korrosa> Yeah, this is on the server though so give me a few mins...
18:24 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4629 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/boundaries.c: Fix:maptool:Disable generating spain index by boundary for now to avoid bloated toplevel tile
18:25 < korrosa> cp15: Is this because Spain has overseas territories?
18:30 <@cp15> Partly... First problem is that osm of spain contains in summary more than one million of small villages which are spread in such a manner that they will span more than one 2nd-Level tile, so the index will go in a top level tile with about 40 MB
18:30 <@cp15> And being in a top level tile means that everyone who requests even the smallest area from the planet extractor will get this index
18:32 <@cp15> Same problem appies for russia and usa, but since they have far fewer towns it isn't such a big problem
18:34 < BrainDamage> osd type="scale" not available in the android port?
18:34 < BrainDamage> tried using <osd type="scale" enabled="yes" x="-120" y="-35" w="180" h="26" font_size="150"/>
18:34 < BrainDamage> yeah, I know width is slightly larger than the x position, but it didn't work even when it was in the mid of screen
18:35 <@cp15> We haven't disabled it
18:35 < BrainDamage> is there a debug log I could check?, because I see no change
18:35 <@cp15> Do you know logcat?
18:36 < BrainDamage> I've used it once or twice, forgot about it
18:36 < BrainDamage> I'll check that
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18:58 < korrosa> cp15: Panic over (I know you were panicking...) - build works fine.
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19:43 < korrosa> dandor: Anything I can help with to debug the crash?
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19:50 < korrosa> cp15: How easy is a fix/patch/bodge to disable keybindings when in the internal gui?
19:55 < Number6> Evening
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20:00 <@cp15> korrosa, I have to look
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20:29 < tryagain> good evening all
20:29 < tryagain> IC my last commit made some noise on the channel ;)
20:30 <@cp15> The extended POI range?
20:31 < tryagain> yes
20:31 < tryagain> For center of Moscow I can use a 100 km range on desktop
20:31 < tryagain> quite old desktop, btw
20:32 <@cp15> More intersting would be a mobile phone
20:32 <@cp15> Maybe it is possible to make the range dynamic? So it extends automatically until the page is filled or the user does something?
20:32 < tryagain> PND with 256M was usable results too
20:34 < tryagain> hm dynamic range means I should make query on square area and then add squares to it... But top level tiles will be reviewed much more than one time.
20:35 < tryagain> And then there should be some information of current distance. Else you'd not know when to press break.
20:35 <@cp15> Same now if you extend the range, isn't it?
20:36 <@cp15> Yes, true
20:36 < tryagain> Same, but I know how much I did extend it and how long to wait
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20:37 <@cp15> You can run the search in the background so the user can abort it any time
20:37 < tryagain> If doing that automagically, we should decide in waht steps to increment: small will give more interactivity but much greate overall time
20:37 < tryagain> greate=longer
20:39 < tryagain> We can't display results untill all area is processed, as results are ordered by distance but coming from map in random order considering distance.
20:39 <@cp15> Ok, true
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20:42 <@cp15> Hmm... I have an idea... We can extend the map selection so you can suppress a rectangle
20:44 < tryagain> But still we'll have to read all uppper level slices again and again...
20:44 <@cp15> They are in the cache so this will be fast
20:45 < tryagain> Then we can try that. I still have some TOOD's with current implementation.
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20:46 < tryagain> Sometimes I when I press more I get to the wrong page. It may be related to changing vertical spacing in results list.
20:47 < tryagain> I felt I was done that in patch you commit but it appeared again.
20:47 <@cp15> what patch?
20:47 < tryagain> #859
20:50 < tryagain> Also I'd like to do true case insensitive search. And, probably, romanize all search strings an query before comparing. That will help in situations like http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/886
20:50 < tryagain> *an=and
20:51 < tryagain> Current search isn't case insesitive, eg, for Cyrillic
20:56 <@cp15> Doesn't the g_strcasecmp_utf8 help?
20:58 < tryagain> we don't have it at internal glib. And it doesn't remove diacriticals, or I'm wrong?
20:59 < tryagain> g_utf8_casefold is better for comparing multiple different strings to one
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21:25 < BrainDamage> stupid question: how do I execute a command when I switch vehicle profile?
21:25 < woglinde> ?
21:25 < woglinde> you dont execute commands when switching profile
21:25 < BrainDamage> I want to make the view automatically tilted when I switch to car vehicle profile
21:25 < BrainDamage> as well as enable autozoom
21:25 < woglinde> tilted?
21:25 < BrainDamage> yes, instead of straight vertical
21:26 < tryagain> 3d view
21:26 < korrosa> BrainDamage: It's currently not possible.
21:26 < BrainDamage> aw :/, I guess I'll add a manual button
21:26 < korrosa> :)
21:27 <@cp15> BrainDamage, should be possible to create a new menu entry for this
21:28 < BrainDamage> yeah, that was my plan
21:30 < BrainDamage> basically, I plan to use navit where I'll have no data connectivity, so I'll use it for both pedestrian navigation & car nav
21:31 < BrainDamage> car nav a classical angled view, with autozoom with speed
21:31 <@cp15> Set onclick='vehicle.profilename="car";navit.pitch=pitch'
21:31 < BrainDamage> while pedestrian top view with custom zoom
21:31 <@cp15> then
21:31 < BrainDamage> I was using this to toggle pitch navit.pitch=navit.pitch==0?pitch:0
21:31 <@cp15> Set onclick='vehicle.profilename="pedestrian";navit.pitch=0'
21:31 < BrainDamage> reminds me c++ ternary operators
21:32 <@cp15> Yes, there is a simple c parser included in navit
21:32 < woglinde> BrainDamage thats support by a lot of progamming languages
21:32 < BrainDamage> I mean that syntax style
21:33 < woglinde> yes
21:33 <@cp15> navit.autozoom_active=1 to enable autozoom and navit.autozoom_active=0 to disable it
21:33 < BrainDamage> k, thanks
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21:50 < korrosa> Huh, well, everyday's a school day!
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21:52 < xenos1984> hi everybody
21:54 < Number6> Not if you can't read
21:54 < Number6> hi xenos1984
21:54 < xenos1984> hi Number6
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21:59 < BrainDamage> <img src='gui_vehicle' onclick='onclick='vehicle.profilename="car";navit.autozoom_active=1;navit.pitch=pitch;back_to_map()'><text>Car</text></img>
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21:59 < BrainDamage> back_to_map() doesn't seem to work :/
22:00 < BrainDamage> oh, wait, I'm dumb
22:00 < BrainDamage> wrote twice onclick
22:02 <@cp15> BrainDamage, if you create something cool, please put it in the wiki
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22:04 < BrainDamage> k, I'm trying atm to give some more automation & arrange the layout so it resembles more the other android map apps
22:04 < BrainDamage> so users ( like me ) used to the others, will get themselves less confused :p
22:05 <@cp15> :-) Sounds great
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22:15 <@cp15> I will go to bed now...
22:15 <@cp15> Good night
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22:18 < woglinde> nite cp15
22:19 < BrainDamage> gn
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22:31 < korrosa> BrainDamage:In case you can't find it, please upload the menu config to http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Internal_GUI/Menu_configurations
22:32 < korrosa> I look forward to seeing it!
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