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06:11 <@Horwitz> morgen
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09:22 < NavitLogger> Maps5 has died
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09:41 < aaaapublic> anyone can answer a OSD config question ?
09:42 < aaaapublic> the scale OSD does not seem to be working on Navit for Android
09:42 < aaaapublic> also, i can't seem to delete a bookmark folder
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10:15 < aaaapublic> anyone can answer a OSD config question ?  the scale OSD does not seem to be working on Navit for Android
10:16 < woglinde> what you mean with scale?
10:17 < aaaapublic> there is OSD of type=scale
10:17 < woglinde> and you didnt say which version you are using
10:17 < aaaapublic> let me check
10:17 < aaaapublic> version 4602, from svn
10:18 < aaaapublic> according to the doc, there should be a scale osd
10:18 < aaaapublic> but it does not show up after I've added it to navit.xml
10:19 < woglinde> did you test it under other platforms?
10:20 < aaaapublic> eh, no. Android is my primary platform, and I don't have a GPS unit in my other devices.
10:21 < woglinde> why you need a gps unit to test scale?
10:21 < aaaapublic> Every other OSD seems to be working, though I've not tried speed cams yet
10:21 < curious> i can confirm scale works with linux and wince
10:21 < aaaapublic> eh, since i don't have a GPS in other devices, i didn't use navit on them.
10:21 < aaaapublic> i c.
10:21 < woglinde> curious okay thanks
10:22 < aaaapublic> i dun have a linux nor wince device
10:22 < aaaapublic> i c... well, can i just check that to use the scale, a line like this would work :
10:23 < aaaapublic> <osd enabled="yes" x="0" y="-84" w="240" h="26" font_size="150" type="scale"/> ( this is from the wiki_
10:23 < woglinde> yes
10:23 < woglinde> its from wiki
10:23 < woglinde> where else
10:24 < aaaapublic> i mean, is there any additional config i have to do, or any other dependencies besides this one line ?
10:25 < woglinde> courious what exactly scales it on the osd?
10:25 < curious> i used xample from wiki aswell
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10:27 < woglinde> hm so it can be a button or text
10:27 < woglinde> which scaled with the zoom
10:28 < aaaapublic> it should use text i guess, since it has a text_size attribute
10:28 < woglinde> fontsize
10:28 < woglinde> you mean
10:28 < korrosa> aaaapublic: One thing to check - I sometimes can't see the scale OSD item because it blends in with the background of my layout...
10:28 < aaaapublic> actually, all i wanted was to see the current zoom but there does not seem to be a way to retrieve or display it
10:29 < aaaapublic> hmmm... good point. Let me set a background color as well
10:29 < woglinde> you mean the zoomlevel?
10:30 < aaaapublic> yes. i can't find an variable or string that contains it.
10:31 < curious> it produces nice line with scale and small text labels describing it, if it's big enough
10:32 < curious> for me it produces black line and black text
10:35 < korrosa> In theory, it should look like the scale shown between the + and - icons on the right in the following image: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/File:Korrosa_osd_navigating.png
10:35 < korrosa> This is a screenshot from a Linux netbook, so you can see that it would be possible to "get lost" in all the map data!!
10:35 < aaaapublic> let me check
10:35 < aaaapublic> i see
10:37 < aaaapublic> i've changed the background color, and it still does not show up.
10:37 < aaaapublic> do you know if there's a way to get the zoom level ?
10:37 < aaaapublic> then i don't have to use the scale
10:37 < aaaapublic> i mean display the zoom level ? I know how to add a text OSD, but I need to have a variable to display
10:38 < korrosa> Perhaps it doesn't work then. Please file a ticket at http://trac.navit-project.org/
10:39 < korrosa> I haven't tried displaying the current zoom level - not sure how I'd go about doing that.
10:39 < aaaapublic> strange... there are ways to display speed, street names, course, etc, but not zoom. i've been hunting for it for a while now
10:40 < woglinde> korrosa what is the 97? in your osd?
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10:42 < korrosa> woglinde: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD#speed_warner
10:42 < aaaapublic> another simple questions : how do I delete a bookmark folder ?
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10:42 < aaaapublic> without editing the bookmarks.txt file of course
10:43 < korrosa> aaaapublic: You can't, not without editing the textfile.
10:43 < woglinde> you cannt fron the gui
10:43 < woglinde> ups from
10:43 < woglinde> korrosa would be a task for you to implement it
10:43 < aaaapublic> ok, i suspected so. just needed confirmation
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10:45 < aaaapublic> that would be great. some book mark mgt capabilities would make navit even better.
10:45 < aaaapublic> for android users, the bookmarks.txt file is inaccessible unless you root the device.
10:45 < aaaapublic> that makes editing the bookmarks file unfeasible for most users.
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10:49 < aaaapublic> another qns : for layers, what's the difference between active and enabled ?
10:50 < aaaapublic> if i want to hide the POI Symbols layer by default, and show it when I use the "toggle POIs" menu item, should I set it to active="0" or enabled=
10:50 < aaaapublic> "no"
10:50 < woglinde> use activ
10:50 < woglinde> e
10:52 < aaaapublic> cool. thanks.
10:52 < korrosa> woglinde: Me do some coding? lol!
10:59 < aaaapublic> so, out of curiosity, are you guys all developers ?
11:00 < woglinde> aaaapublic look at korrosa's answer
11:01 < aaaapublic> eh...ok... so what are your roles in the navit project ? testers ? designers ?
11:01 < drlizau> i'm a simple user
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11:05 < aaaapublic> hmmm... i dun think anyone who uses navit and hangs out in the chatrooms are "simple" users
11:06 < woglinde> *g*
11:06 < woglinde> I am a programmar
11:06 < woglinde> so lunch now
11:07 < aaaapublic> woglinde : wow... are you part of the navit development team ?
11:07 < korrosa> aaaapublic: You make very valid points, but unfortunately they will be lost here in IRC - please do start bug or feature requests at trac.
11:08 < NavitLogger> aaaapublic: Most people here are part of the development team
11:08 < korrosa> What the...?! Number6, why you so sneaky?
11:09 < aaaapublic> korrosa : i have so far only raised 1 issue at trac, and thankfully it got implemented.
11:10 < aaaapublic> i'll raise a few more, mostly around usability. Powerful software needs to be user-friendly for non-techies for it to gain widespread use.
11:11 < NavitLogger> korrosa: Maps5 (my IRC box) has died
11:13 < drlizau> aaaapublic this mob are quite friendly and are interested in how to make it better, but of course will always advise "patches welcome"
11:14 < aaaapublic> btw, can someone briefly explain what the the numbers(represented by X) in street_X_land, street_X_city, etc  mean ?
11:15 < drlizau> importance /grading system
11:15 < aaaapublic> so... it distinguishes major roads from small ones ?
11:16 < aaaapublic> are these documented in the wiki ? i can't seem to find it.
11:17 < drlizau> you are referring to the navit.xml file, I presume?
11:17 < aaaapublic> ditto for the XeY in other items ( town_label_1e2,  district_label_2e1,etc)
11:17 < aaaapublic> yes
11:17 < drlizau> and if not documented in the wiki, you can make that happen too.
11:17 < aaaapublic> I'm trying out the layouts
11:18 < aaaapublic> yes, but I first need to know what they actually are before attempting to update the wiki
11:19 < drlizau> seriously, when you have just solved the problem is the best time to update the wiki, with the eyes of a newbie
11:20 < aaaapublic> eh, i have not solved anything yet. I'm just fumbling around with the xml file and not getting much done except copying and pasting xml fragments
11:21 < aaaapublic> but even then,navit is turning out to be pretty powerful
11:21 < aaaapublic> it searches and calculate routes even faster than my Garmin
11:23 < drlizau> certainly does on this quadcore
11:23 < drlizau> the routing has just had a major improvement
11:24 < aaaapublic> Well, I'm using it on my android phone. It's a single core 1GHz processor, and it's plenty fast even then. It occasionally think's my car is on the other side of the road ( maybe due to GPS drift ?), but
11:25 < aaaapublic> generally, it's pretty accurate.
11:28 < korrosa> aaaapublic: As drlizau said, the street_X_land stuff is mapped to different OSM highway types. I thought it was on the wiki - let me see if I can find the link.
11:29 < aaaapublic> ok. what about town_label_1e2,  district_label_2e1 ? Does the "e" represent exponential ?
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11:31 < korrosa> aaaapublic: Found it: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit/map_items
11:32 < korrosa> Hmm, we certainly need a better link to that page!
11:32 < woglinde> korrosa do it
11:33 < korrosa> woglinde: I've got all sort of ideas up my sleeve for the wiki - that page is linked to from the config page, but the whole thing needs an overhaul. I'm working on it!
11:34 < woglinde> yeah
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11:34 < woglinde> okay so you dont have to code the bookmarks management
11:34 < korrosa> Thanks! :)
11:34 < woglinde> *g*
11:36 < aaaapublic> ah thanks.
11:38 < aaaapublic> i just searched for "town_label_1e2", and it led me to http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Item_def.h
11:38 < aaaapublic> the description in there seems quite useful.
11:39 < aaaapublic> unfortunately, it does not explain what the 1e2 in town_label_1e2 means.
11:40 < Ziaou> Hi
11:41 < korrosa> aaaapublic: Be aware that the info in http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Item_def.h is old, especially for the street types.
11:41 < Ziaou> since I built yesterday evening, Navit freezes when I click on predefined POI filters, like "Restaurant", "shopping"
11:42 < Ziaou> but the manual filter which appeared in this version works fine
11:42 < korrosa> aaaapublic: If you do a ctrl+f for the town labels in https://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/navit/trunk/navit/navit/maptool/osm.c, you'll find out their osm equivalents...
11:42 < aaaapublic> I also found http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Item_def_new.h, which is the newer version I presume
11:42 < korrosa> Ziaou: That's interesting - can anyone else confirm this?
11:42 < Ziaou> the unfiltered POI list is working fine too
11:43 < korrosa> Ziaou: Please could you update ticket #859 on trac with this information?
11:43 < aaaapublic> this one contains town_label_1e2, but no descriptions. Seems to be purely a development artifact
11:43 < korrosa> Ziaou: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859
11:43 < korrosa> aaaapublic: You're probably right!
11:44 < Ziaou> OK but I can't determine my svn version beacause I removed the About from my menu in navit.xml :)
11:45 < korrosa> Ziaou: What operating system?
11:45 < aaaapublic> let me try it and see if it hangs
11:45 < Ziaou> Android
11:46 < korrosa> Cool - you build the apk's yourself?
11:46 < woglinde> Ziaou why you removed about?
11:46 < Ziaou> korrosa: yes, yesterday evening
11:47 < Ziaou> from the dedicated VBox
11:47 < korrosa> woglinde: I also removed About. It's screen clutter...
11:49 < woglinde> ?
11:49 < woglinde> shame on you *g*
11:49 < Ziaou> woglinde: I have a little screen :)
11:50 < woglinde> make the symbol's smaller
11:51 < Ziaou> woglinde: for car use, I prefer to have big symbols
11:51 < aaaapublic> Woah... i just downloaded the latest build 4631 and Ziaou's right. It hangs on filtering the POIs using the builtin filters
11:52 < woglinde> hm
11:52 < woglinde> how is poi filtering achivied?
11:52 < woglinde> only on android gui?
11:53 < aaaapublic> i just tried it on my android phone, gingerbread 2.3
11:54 < Ziaou> aaaapublic: good news
11:54 < aaaapublic> wats the good news ?
11:54 < Ziaou> reproductibility :)
11:55 < aaaapublic> haha, ya, i guess that is good news in a way.
11:55 < woglinde> is it in internal gui?
11:55 < woglinde> somewhere?
11:56 < korrosa> woglinde: Yes. POIs -> Click the top category icons to filter by category.
11:57 < korrosa> Ziaou or aaaapublic: Please add this info to http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859. The dev who's been doing improvements to the poi, tryagain, isn't on at the moment, but he does read the IRC logs from time to time...
11:58 < aaaapublic> ok guys, i have to run off now. nice talking to all of you. I am really excited about Navit, it's the only offline turn by turn navigation i know of.
11:58 < aaaapublic> OK, I can do that. I raised that ticket in the first place, so I guess I can update it.
11:58 < woglinde> aaaapublic for android there are some others now
11:59 < aaaapublic> Eh, not purely offline navigators. OSMAnd comes close, but it requires online access to do any form of routing or search
11:59 < aaaapublic> and it doesn't work well on my phone
12:00 < aaaapublic> Oruxmaps is offline, but only does raster maps, not vector maps, and does not do routing.
12:00 < aaaapublic> or searches.
12:01 < Ziaou> aaaapublic : yes, you're right, most of "offline" GPS softwares on android can't calculate a route by themselves, the only offline features are map display and sometimes POI search
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12:07 < aaaapublic> yes. that's why I like Navit. It can work purely offline, which is a heaven-sent when travelling.
12:08 < aaaapublic> ok, i gotta run now. I hvae updated the ticket to report the problem. Thanks for all comments and help. Appreciate it.
12:08 < aaaapublic> bye... talk again.
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12:23 < Dandor> aaaapublic i saw your problem about the scale osd on android in the logs
12:23 < Dandor> i could also  reproduce it on android
12:24 < Dandor> and the problem  does not appear on my linux box
12:24 < Dandor> on android adding use_overlay="1" solved the problem
12:25 < Dandor> i hope you will read the logs
12:27 < Dandor> when i have some time for it i`ll check the code to fix this issue
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13:00 < korrosa> ...and that is why dandor is my favourite!
13:00 < woglinde> ppppfffffffffff
13:01 < woglinde> you go back to the bookmarks edit
13:01 < woglinde> or
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13:07 < korrosa> tryagain: See #859
13:07 < tryagain> wow.
13:09 < tryagain> why don't we have trac messages posted here...
13:10 < tryagain> korrosa, do your crashing skills fail to reproduce that on anything besides Android?
13:11 < woglinde> tryagain because kazer couldnt finish the trac bridge
13:11 < Number6> maps5 is stable again
13:12 < korrosa> tryagain: I haven't tried it yet at all. The two users were in here this morning.
13:16 < Number6> korrosa: Got the maptool times down to under 2 hours on the workstation :-)
13:16 < korrosa> For the entire planet?
13:17 < Number6> Yep
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13:20 < korrosa> I'm using my shared server space (sssh!), and can do GB in 6 minutes from pbf (compared to 30 minutes on my netbook...)
13:22 < tryagain> Number6 Do you use your old home octalcore workstation with 128Gb of RAM?
13:24 < Number6> tryagain: It's a HP Workstation - 3 HDD in RAID0 (where planet.osm.bz2 is), 24GB ram, and another hard drive to put planet.bin :-)
13:25 < Number6> I/O is still the bottleneck, though!
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13:35 < CIA-69> mdankov * r4632 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Fix:gui_internal:Properly initialize a poi_param structure, should fix hangs on Android.|Shame on me!
13:36 < tryagain> Dandor can you please try if it hangs on android with current svn?
13:39 < tryagain> Ziaou can you please check if POI listing still hangs on Android with latest change?
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14:32 < Dandor> hi Tryagain, unfortunately i don't have yet an android build env since i came by my device a few days ago only
14:33 < Dandor> i can test tomorrow the nightly build oc
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15:05 < kenguest> didn't somebody say there was a port of navit for the tomtom platform?
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15:18 < korrosa> kenguest: If you haven't seen it already: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_TomTom
15:19 < Number6> I found the TomTom to be slow, though
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15:32 < kenguest> Number6: still on the fence ;) just spotted argos & maplin have specials on tomtom devices at the mo'
15:34 < Number6> DealExtreme have a few decently priced ones
15:34 < Number6> Inclusing a 128MB jobbie
15:35 < kenguest> heard they have a dodgy rep when it comes to things being delived though
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15:38 < kenguest> or am I just over-cautious?
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15:41 < Number6> kenguest: That was probably me saying that. If you don't mind waiting AGES for it to arrive, and the possibility of being stung with import duties, take the risk
15:42 < kenguest> Number6: I'm patient - swmbo isn't, think I might look into a few more alternatives ;)
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15:48 < Number6> swmbo?
15:53 < kenguest> my good lady wife :)
15:58 < Number6> Ah. Does swmbo have a meaning?
16:01 < kenguest> She Who Must Be Obeyed - you mean you've never read or watched any Rumpole?
16:04 < Number6> No. I have some normality
16:06 < kenguest> Pity :D
16:10 < Number6> Actually, I take that back. I'm talking to you on a OSX VM, with a SUSE host, on a MacBook Pro.
16:17 < kenguest> Number6: you remind me of what the psychotherapist said to the manic depressive nudist.
16:19 < Number6> What?
16:22 < kenguest> I can clearly see your nuts
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16:26 < korrosa> You two are like an Irish Ant&Dec...
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16:58 < cp15_> noradtux_, I assume you have an accout at precentral
17:02 < cp15_> It seems http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/254622-navit-3d-car-navigation-system.html is referring one of our map servers (maps5) directly without going over the load balancer. Can you tell them to not do that? Also tell them to please not use any download managers since this will overload our web servers
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21:00 < woglinde> ah nice the poi bug fixed
21:05 < Zaba> poi bug?
21:05 < woglinde> yes
21:06 < woglinde> on android there was bug with the poi filtering
21:06 < woglinde> tryagain fixed it, it seems
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21:29 < korrosa> tryagain: You around? I have a question about gui_internal.c
21:29 < korrosa> (Look woglinde, I'm coding! Proud of me?!)
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21:32 < woglinde> *g*
21:32 < woglinde> korrosa hm maybee I can help with gui_internal too
21:33 < korrosa> OK, cool. Line 2194 onwards.
21:34 < woglinde> hm
21:34 < woglinde> yes?
21:34 < korrosa> Question: why are some of those poi's defined twice within each category?
21:34 < woglinde> somethin special?
21:34 < Number6> I'll never be proud of you, korrosa
21:34 < woglinde> hehe
21:34 < korrosa> Fiddle minger to you too, Number6...
21:34 < woglinde> now number6 is the bad guy
21:34 < woglinde> korrosa hm which one?
21:34 < Number6> I've always been the bad guy
21:35 < korrosa> woglinde: "type_poi_hospital" for example. And many others.
21:36 < korrosa> Most are defined twice within the same category, except for some such as "type_poi_police"
21:36 < woglinde> hm you mean with -1 and +1
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21:37 < korrosa> woglinde: No.
21:37 < korrosa> Go to line 2198.
21:37 < korrosa> type_poi_hotel,type_poi_camp_rv,
21:37 < korrosa> Underneath that is
21:37 < korrosa> type_poi_camping,type_poi_camping,
21:37 < korrosa> Why is camping defined twice?
21:37 < woglinde> cut and paste
21:37 < woglinde> I would say
21:38 < woglinde> error
21:38 < korrosa> OK, that's what I suspected. I'll remove doubles, test, and then attach to ticket #898
21:38 < woglinde> hm wait
21:38 < woglinde> no
21:38 < woglinde> there is some systematic
21:40 < woglinde> hm
21:41 < woglinde> cannt say at the moment what for the enum array is used
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21:43 < korrosa> woglinde: OK, I'll leave it as it is for now, but add poi_shopping to the shopping category.
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21:45 < woglinde> yes
21:47 < korrosa> [TRAC] Patch attached to http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/898
21:53 < Number6> Did you type that, ir have you become a bot?
21:53 < Number6> s/ir/or
21:56 < korrosa> I thought I'd start doing CIA's job for a bit, manually. Expect lag.
21:59 < Number6> Is anyone here from a .de university?
22:00 < woglinde> yes
22:00 < Number6> Were you downloading maps at 8am GMT?
22:01 < woglinde> no
22:02 < Number6> It's not uni-dortmund.de, is it?
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22:02 < woglinde> no
22:03 < Number6> Good. Otherwise I'd need to beat you
22:03 < xenos1984> hi everybody
22:03 < korrosa> More beatings?
22:03 < korrosa> Hi xenos1984
22:03 < korrosa> Number6: You got DoS'd?
22:04 < woglinde> hi xenos
22:04 < Number6> I had to drive over 2 hours to reboot maps5 this morning, because some bright spark decided to send in 58 requests in 10 minutes... ALL FOR THE SAME AREA
22:06 < korrosa> Man, that sucks.
22:15 < Number6> Well, the IP address is banned from maps5 now
22:16 < xenos1984> i hope it's not a dynamic IP...
22:17 < Number6> Nope, a university one
22:17 < Number6> I sent them a friendly email asking to please stop
22:18 < xenos1984> sounds good - at least i can be sure it wasn't me, i was at home today :)
22:19 < Number6> Uni-dortmund.de?
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22:19 < xenos1984> nope, mine would be either physnet.uni-hamburg.de or desy.de
22:20 < korrosa> It seems like Navit is developed only by people who work/study at Uni...
22:21 < Number6> Lots of free time, korrosa :-)
22:21 < xenos1984> or maybe one needs to study a lot to be both sufficiently skilled and frustration-tolerant to work on the navit code ;)
22:22 < korrosa> Hence the failure that is I!
22:23 < korrosa> By the way: kenguest - xenos1984 is the Navit on TomTom guy...
22:23 < tryagain> korrosa that array contains POI intervals, type_poi_camping,type_poi_camping, means only type_poi_camping included.
22:24 < xenos1984> another support request? let me check the logs...
22:24 < korrosa> tryagain: Sorry, yeah, I figured that after I submitted the patch - good thing I didn't change it..!
22:24 < woglinde> korrosa hm I will commit your patch now
22:25 < korrosa> woglinde: Actually, won't it be wrong?
22:25 < korrosa> Or does it only work in couples?
22:26 < kenguest> korrosa: thanks
22:26 < woglinde> did you test it?
22:26 < woglinde> does it work?
22:26 < korrosa> woglinde: Yes, it works, and only shows poi_shopping and poi_shop_grocery in my area (I don't have malls), so I guess it works fine!
22:26 < kenguest> xenos1984: just curious about the best/cheap platform to buy to get navit running on
22:26 < woglinde> okay
22:27 < kenguest> including making traces
22:27 < woglinde> so I will commit it
22:27 < korrosa> woglinde: Go ahead.
22:28 < xenos1984> kenguest: well, the tomtom's are rather cheap, and they have a good gps receiver... and navit runs on them, although it still has some problems
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22:28 < xenos1984> it needs a bit finetuning because the different devices need different config options
22:29 < kenguest> is it possible to create annotations and trace files on that platform?
22:30 < xenos1984> yes - you can save a gpx track while navit is running, and mark positions as "bookmarks"
22:35 < woglinde> korrosa next task could be to add the other shop pois into it
22:36 < korrosa> Yup, but only those selling food/groceries as it's a supermarket trolley which is the symbol
22:36 < tryagain> korrosa I didn't run that but patch seems to be good. Number6 Are you sure there was not Kernighan&Ritchie in Cobol book cover...
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22:38 < korrosa> So that would be butcher, baker, fruit, beverages,
22:38 < korrosa> + the two in there already.
22:38 < korrosa> Though mall doesn't quite fit in then...
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22:39 < woglinde> korrosa for these you could use the interval
22:40 < woglinde> butcher baker at least
22:40 < korrosa> woglinde: Yup, good point.
22:40 < woglinde> look at the motel hostel example
22:40 < woglinde> and item_def.h
22:41 < tryagain> hm. For "other" POI category we need some automagic. When I tried to touch that array it was a pain to maintain "other" list consistancy.
22:41 < Number6> tryagain: I dislike the K&R Whitebook. I much rather ABC
22:42 < tryagain> By weight?
22:42 < Number6> :-)
22:45 < CIA-69> woglinde * r4633 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Add:gui_internal:Add poi_shopping to the selectors, patch from korrosa, closes ticket #898
22:46 < korrosa> ^^ Number6, how'd you like them apples ^^
22:47 < woglinde> good nite
22:47 < korrosa> Night.
22:47 < Number6> Night, woglinde
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22:48 < Number6> korrosa: I prefer cherries
22:48 < Number6> Or plums
23:00 < CIA-69> mdankov * r4634 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Fix:gui_internal:Make "Get more/Set distance to ..." buttons background reverted back when they're deselected.|Never,never,never add a child item to item not having a parent.
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23:08 < korrosa> [TRAC] Ticket closed http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/898
23:16 < Number6> You're a shit bot, korrosa :-P
23:18 < korrosa> Lol!
23:19 < Number6> Like http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/232/2/1/Father_give_me_legs_by_wo262.jpg
23:19 < korrosa> :(
23:23 < korrosa> Night all!!
23:23 < xenos1984> gn8 korrosa
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23:54 < xenos1984> gn8
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