--- Log opened Thu Jul 14 00:00:37 2011 00:46 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14 -!- aspix1 [~Adium@190.163.235.44] has joined #navit 01:16 -!- aspix [~Adium@190.163.109.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:11 -!- jff [~quassel@p5DCCE210.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 02:14 -!- 31NAAP2EY [~quassel@p5DCCE34C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24 -!- aspix1 [~Adium@190.163.235.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:59 -!- aspix [~Adium@190.163.235.44] has joined #navit 03:02 -!- noradtux_tp [~wircer@g224048137.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:04 -!- noradtux [~quassel@g224051057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:04 -!- noradtux_ [~quassel@g224048137.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:04 -!- aspix [~Adium@190.163.235.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:11 -!- Earthwings_ [~quassel@nienhueser.de] has joined #navit 03:12 -!- Earthwings [~quassel@gentoo/developer/earthwings] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28 -!- cp15` [omfhtc@p57B1CAB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:28 -!- cp15 [llyglv@p57B1C80E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:28 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:29 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:48 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-092-074-007-062.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:49 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-092-074-014-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 05:18 -!- aspix [~Adium@201.223.160.87] has joined #navit 06:04 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 06:07 <@Horwitz> morgen 06:17 -!- noradtux_tp [~wircer@g224051057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 06:44 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:50 -!- aspix [~Adium@201.223.160.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:52 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 06:54 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 06:54 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 06:56 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 06:57 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 07:06 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has joined #navit 07:43 -!- jff [~quassel@p5DCCE210.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 07:49 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:14 -!- Zaba [~zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:25 -!- Zaba [~zaba@about/goats/billygoat/zaba] has joined #navit 08:27 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 08:35 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:43 -!- goldfndr` [~goldfndr@h-68-165-77-10.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:43 -!- goldfndr^ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-200-233.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #navit 09:02 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has joined #navit 09:17 < Number6> Morning 09:21 < kenguest> urgletoot 09:22 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 09:22 < woglinde> hi num,ber6 09:24 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:24 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 09:31 < Number6> Hi kenguest and woglinde 09:44 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02 < Number6> Fire alarm, brb 10:04 -!- jarjar [~jarjar@pas72-1-88-161-63-171.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #navit 10:04 < woglinde> what? 10:04 < woglinde> fire alarm 10:05 < woglinde> so someone is stealing now 10:08 < kenguest> ? 10:14 < woglinde> kenguest what you dont understand 10:16 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:18 < kenguest> that you think someone is stealing 10:19 < woglinde> sure 10:19 < woglinde> dont you know it? 10:19 < woglinde> release fire alarm so all have to leave the building 10:19 < woglinde> than you can walk around and take what you want 10:19 < kenguest> cynic :p 10:20 < woglinde> reality 10:22 -!- jouke [~jouke@famhofman.com] has joined #navit 10:23 < jouke> is garmin-support still in development? 10:23 < jouke> Routing with garmin-maps would be great. 10:24 < woglinde> garmin support is dead 10:24 < Number6> Someone burnt toast 10:24 < woglinde> number6 haha 10:26 < jouke> woglinde: aw, that is too bad :( 10:26 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:27 < jouke> there are some specifik maps for garmin that I would have liked to use. 10:35 -!- jarjar [~jarjar@pas72-1-88-161-63-171.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has joined #navit 10:38 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 10:42 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit 11:24 < kenguest> Number6: did they put jelly on it? 11:39 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has joined #navit 11:46 -!- korrosa [c3028868@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.2.136.104] has joined #navit 11:46 < korrosa> jouke: To be clear: you can still use Garmin maps with Navit. I did it last week. 11:46 < korrosa> However, you can't route with them, nor search in them. 11:47 < korrosa> You must also compile your version of Navit with the libgarmin driver, and enable the module in navit.xml: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Garmin_maps 11:49 < korrosa> Hi everyone else! 12:05 < woglinde> gm korrosa 13:27 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:14 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has left #navit [] 14:41 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has quit [Quit: zapp] 14:44 -!- sera [~sera@230-176.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:56 -!- sera [~sera@203.79.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 15:19 < jouke> korrosa: yes, I know, but routing would be the thing I was looking for. 15:31 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has joined #navit 15:36 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 15:49 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-178-010-090-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 15:51 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 15:56 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 16:16 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 16:32 -!- aspix [~Adium@186.65.235.197] has joined #navit 16:47 < antenna1> korrosa: hey, is there any way to download preprocessed maps via console? Like geofabrik, just processed. 16:49 < Number6> Yes, use wget 17:01 < antenna1> Number6: I know it works for geofabrik, but does it work for the map.navit-project servers too? If so, how can you download a predefined area with wget? 17:04 < korrosa> antenna1: Yes, very easy 17:05 < korrosa> antenna1: For France: http://maps.navit-project.org/api/map/?bbox=-5.44921875,42.01171875,8.437500000000002,51.6796875 17:06 < korrosa> I think it's: minlon, minlat, maxlon, maxlat 17:06 < antenna1> korrosa: great! Thank you. 17:08 < antenna1> korrosa: do you have a link list for countries? 17:08 < korrosa> Nope, just the list at http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap#Maintained_by_the_Navit_Team 17:12 < Number6> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Number6&diff=4835&oldid=4811 17:13 < korrosa> antenna1: To work out the lat and lon values: http://www.openstreetmap.org/, zoom out until your area is in view, click Export, click "Manually select a different area" then draw the bounding box. The lat/lon values will be shown in the box on the left. 17:14 < korrosa> [TRAC] New comment added http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/859#comment:20 17:15 < korrosa> [TRAC] New comment added to closed ticket http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/463#comment:3 17:37 -!- aspix [~Adium@186.65.235.197] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38 -!- aspix [~Adium@186.65.235.197] has joined #navit 17:40 -!- korrosa [c3028868@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.2.136.104] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:42 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:57 -!- 17WAARMXF [~quassel@p5DCCE210.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 18:02 < CIA-69> martin-s * r4635 /trunk/navit/navit/maptool/osm.c: Add:maptool:Removed experimental status of new relation processing for turn restrictions 18:06 < antenna1> Number6: when I download via wget link, I get a zipfile instead of a mapfile. 18:07 < Number6> antenna1: the binfiles *are* zipfiles :-) 18:17 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 18:17 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:27 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 18:28 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:40 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@g230119199.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 18:51 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g230119012.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 18:55 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@g230119199.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:22 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:31 -!- sympa [54f50749@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.245.7.73] has joined #navit 19:34 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 19:35 < sympa> what is 'zanzinav' that is in the Android market? Looks like the Navit icon 19:36 < woglinde> sympa a fork 19:36 < sympa> ok woglinde i was afraid a fake version 19:36 < woglinde> no he forked because he didnt know how to work together with a community 19:37 < sympa> hmm i had a svn version and I got a no space error when trying to download a map on android. uninstalled and put on the market version and download works. i have enough free space 19:38 < sympa> even tried a small country, didn't fit. now it is downloading western europe again 19:39 < BrainDamage> I had the same problem 19:39 < BrainDamage> it's the stale download progress files 19:41 < sympa> hmm BrainDamage where do those live? somewhere hidden? 19:41 < sympa> it seems the navit directory was empty 19:44 < sympa> ok, cancelled the download, deleted the contents of the navit directory, and now installing the svn version 19:44 < woglinde> sympa there were some improvements 19:44 < woglinde> for download 19:45 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@ti0013a380-dhcp3444.bb.online.no] has joined #navit 19:45 < BrainDamage> there were some files marked .temp 19:45 < sympa> i'm on the phone now, after that i'll try the svn version download 19:45 < BrainDamage> I reported cp15 several days ago 19:45 < BrainDamage> don't know if he has fixed the problem 19:46 < woglinde> braindamage we could look at zanzinav if zoff has some fixes 19:46 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 19:46 < woglinde> hm 19:46 < woglinde> sympa dont have a market 19:47 < BrainDamage> btw, I hope that I won't find any major probs with navit, since I'm planning to have a trip to croatia in 2 weeks and there'll be no data connectivity for google maps >_> 19:47 < woglinde> whats the url for zanzinav now? 19:47 < sympa> i found zanzinav in android market 19:47 < sympa> when looking for navit 19:48 < sympa> https://market.android.com/search?q=navit&so=1&c=apps 19:49 < woglinde> oh he sells it now 19:49 < woglinde> hm ah now 19:49 < woglinde> ups no 19:49 < woglinde> its only donatig 19:49 < woglinde> donating 19:50 < sympa> yes choice to donate 50 c 19:50 < sympa> like osmand 19:52 < woglinde> so he still has the sourcecode not available 19:53 < Number6> cp15: Ping 19:53 < woglinde> ah there was the link 19:53 < woglinde> lets se 19:54 < woglinde> ieehks 19:54 < woglinde> no public scm 19:54 < woglinde> only the tar ball 19:54 < woglinde> I will diff it 19:56 < woglinde> ARGS 19:56 -!- aspix [~Adium@186.65.235.197] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56 < woglinde> he cannt even package stuff 19:58 -!- aspix [~Adium@186.65.235.197] has joined #navit 20:01 < sympa> well... now I downloaded latest SVN and it complains about disk full when downloading a map. 20:02 -!- korrosa [~netbook@78.149.8.120] has joined #navit 20:02 < korrosa> inb4 woglinde loses his temper... 20:03 < woglinde> korrosa its a pitty if you have no subdir for files 20:04 < woglinde> that aredoing a lot of windows users with zip 20:04 < sympa> aaghhh a tarball that expands into cwd... yuck 20:04 < woglinde> yes ;( 20:07 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@ti0013a380-dhcp3444.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:09 < sympa> now again tried version from android market - and it can download a map again! so i conclude that map download in SVN is broken 20:11 < woglinde> sympa hm strange 20:13 < sympa> when it does not work it complains immediately, like it knows the file size and checks. usually these things break at the moment the disk is really full :) 20:14 < sympa> but my compliments for navit, I think it has the best routing of all free android programs 20:15 < sympa> osmand crashes and has poor annunciations, navdroyd chooses secondary and tertiary ways for long distances 20:16 < woglinde> sympa uh but the routing algo is far from good 20:17 -!- sympa2 [54f50749@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.245.7.73] has joined #navit 20:17 < sympa2> got disconnected 20:17 < woglinde> -> 21:14 < woglinde> sympa uh but the routing algo is far from good 20:17 < woglinde> sympa2 for routes about 800 km we sometimes have 100 km diffrence from the best route 20:18 < sympa2> but better than others woglinde :) i traveled in belgium and it was fine 20:18 < sympa2> i only tried a little distance. but it is better than taking a road that is 10% shorter but over 50% slower roads! 20:19 < sympa2> I do miss however the search of streets crossing, don't think that OSM will have anough street numbers soon 20:20 -!- sympa [54f50749@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.245.7.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:30 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 20:33 < korrosa> sympa2: Do you live in Belgium? Wallonia needs some severe OSM loving. 20:34 < sympa2> no korrosa i live in the netherlands, where i can still add a very few items 20:34 < sympa2> i do my best when I travel, tracklog on and make some notes.. usually footpaths 20:35 < korrosa> sympa2: Ah, the Netherlands is shit hot in some places in OSM. Your poorer southern cousin isn't doing so well!! 20:37 < sympa2> did some in wallonia a month ago. was a very nice trip, good walks, especially in belgium near french border 20:37 < sympa2> in amsterdam i added some pedestrian streets and crossings, some stairs, and should look at cycle paths. these are often incomplete! 20:40 < korrosa> sympa2: Good stuff! Back to Android - if I understand it you can just download maps on your PC from the map extractor and then put them onto an SD card into the phone (if the phone has one, of course). 20:41 < woglinde> korrosa the phone has normaly a browser 20:41 < sympa2> i know korrosa - for now I 'm using the older market version of navit to do the download, then upgrade it to svn version 20:42 < sympa2> also wanted to report this problem 20:42 < woglinde> so he can download it himself and put it under /storage 20:42 < woglinde> sympa2 yes thanks 20:42 < sympa2> but woglinde i couln't find on cloudmade the map i needed, only countries or a much bigger map 20:42 < woglinde> I thought it was fixed with some commits it seems nit 20:42 < woglinde> maps.navit-project.org 20:42 < woglinde> the cloudmade have problems anyway 20:43 < sympa2> easy enough that site! 20:44 < sympa2> geofabrik maps have problems also for Osmand 20:45 < sympa2> nothing os perfect 20:46 < woglinde> sympa2 did you read the wiki site for android? 20:47 < sympa2> korrosa: some areas grow quickly in OSM and others do not 20:47 < sympa2> no I didn't woglinde 20:47 < woglinde> maybee there are usefull infos for you too 20:47 < woglinde> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_Android 20:49 < sympa2> i've read it, not so much news, thanks woglinde 20:51 < woglinde> okay 20:51 < woglinde> so you know how to name the map 20:52 < sympa2> well it os dwnloading now in the old version... and I used a much older version where i had to extrat the .xml from the package and store that somewhere. the android port has come quite a way since then! 20:53 < woglinde> smypa2 yes the zanzinav dev made a lot of stuff 20:53 < woglinde> but he than he edited code he shouldnt 20:54 < woglinde> and so he lost commit rights 20:54 < sympa2> pity really 20:54 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 20:55 < sympa2> working together is what it is about 20:55 < woglinde> and some of his android code isnt the best quality 20:55 < woglinde> but it worked 20:55 < woglinde> sympa2 yes sure but as I said he has some problems to work with a community 20:56 < woglinde> or in opensource projects at all 20:58 -!- marienz_ [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has joined #navit 20:59 < sympa2> i'm not really a coder though i did some work of printer drivers for linux 20:59 < woglinde> look korrosa isnt coder too 21:00 < korrosa> But I am the best. 21:00 < woglinde> but yesterday he produced a sane patch 21:00 < Number6> Semi-sane 21:00 < korrosa> See?! 21:00 < korrosa> Fuck you 6. 21:00 < woglinde> korrosa wheres is your patch for today? 21:00 < Number6> No no no no no, korrosa... Fuck you 21:00 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has quit [Ping timeout: 612 seconds] 21:00 < woglinde> stop it 21:01 < korrosa> Lol! 21:01 < woglinde> your crazy islanders 21:01 < korrosa> Patch is brewing! 21:01 < Number6> Yes Pappa 21:01 < korrosa> Yes Pappa 21:01 < korrosa> (Although I am from Belgium technically...) 21:01 < Number6> Ohh, they lined up! 21:02 < Number6> Right, I've given up on xcode for today 21:03 < sympa2> hmmm now I have another bug with downloading. .. it tells me I have -1993 Mb to go of 2701 Mb. speed is -00735kb/s and it will take -6232 seconds 21:04 < korrosa> I think you're seeding.... 21:04 < Number6> Or the int overflowed 21:04 < sympa2> yup it is more than 2 GB download 21:05 < sympa2> the remaining time is in seconds as the negative value is small so it wiill be represented as seconds and not minutes :) 21:06 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11 -!- marienz_ [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has quit [Ping timeout: 624 seconds] 21:15 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has joined #navit 21:15 < sympa2> added to the trac tcket with a 'me too' 21:20 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has joined #navit 21:24 < korrosa> [TRAC] Comment added http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/878#comment:2 21:27 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has quit [Ping timeout: 615 seconds] 21:28 < woglinde> korrosa 21:28 < woglinde> *g* 21:29 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@e177226143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 21:29 < xenos1984> hi everybody 21:30 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:30 < woglinde> hi xenos 21:30 < xenos1984> hi woglinde 21:34 < korrosa> [TRAC] Ticket updated http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/878#comment:3 21:41 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has joined #navit 21:53 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has quit [Ping timeout: 600 seconds] 21:54 -!- dnjaramba [~rht@41.72.193.86] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has joined #navit 22:03 -!- noradtux_tp [~wircer@g224051057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:06 -!- aspix [~Adium@186.65.235.197] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:09 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-178-010-090-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 22:10 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has quit [Ping timeout: 612 seconds] 22:13 -!- marienz [~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz] has joined #navit 22:32 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37 -!- sera [~sera@203.79.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:45 < korrosa> Night all! 22:45 -!- korrosa [~netbook@78.149.8.120] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:50 -!- sera [~sera@224.81.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 22:52 < sympa2> good night! 22:52 -!- sympa2 [54f50749@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.245.7.73] has quit [] 22:54 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g230119012.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: zapp] 22:55 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@227.213.10.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jul 15 00:00:36 2011