--- Log opened Mon Aug 08 00:00:41 2011 00:02 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@2001:16d8:ee9a:0:1a3d:a2ff:fe46:6a0c] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:27 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has joined #navit 03:02 -!- jffathome_ [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:03 -!- jffathome___ [~quassel@p5DCCE312.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:04 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@f054120031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:05 -!- noradtux [~quassel@g224049027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:05 -!- noradtux__ [~quassel@f054120031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:10 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@g224049027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 03:30 -!- cp15` [kjfkth@p57B1CDD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:30 -!- cp15 [wzmjbu@p57B1C657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:30 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:30 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 03:30 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:25 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-188-105-192-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:25 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-002-188-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 05:27 -!- sera [~sera@97-55.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 05:30 -!- sera_ [~sera@186.83.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has joined #navit 07:50 <@Horwitz> morgen 08:00 -!- Brinky [brinky@faui2k3.org] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 08:07 -!- Brinky [brinky@faui2k3.org] has joined #navit 08:34 -!- z30 [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has joined #navit 08:47 -!- Eduardo [58d9906c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.217.144.108] has joined #navit 08:47 < Eduardo> Hello! 08:56 -!- arpy [c28a0caa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.138.12.170] has joined #navit 08:59 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B0845A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 09:13 < Number6> Morning 09:17 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B0845A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:22 < Eduardo> Is somewhere documented, which OpenGL is used by navit when the graphic driver OpenGL is selected? 09:26 < Number6> I'm not too sure, I'm afraid. Most documentation is in the wiki or source-code. 09:27 -!- goldfndr^ [~goldfndr@h-72-244-200-202.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #navit 09:27 -!- goldfndr` [~goldfndr@h-67-100-127-100.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:35 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B0845A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 09:44 -!- jffathome_ [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48 < kenguest> Good Caffeine-time everyone 09:51 < Eduardo> Thank you for your answer, Number6 . Also negative information is information :) . 09:54 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B0845A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:08 -!- z30 [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 10:11 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:12 <@cp15> Eduardo, by default opengl is used, you need to define USE_OPENGLES or USE_OPENGLES2 for ES 10:28 < Eduardo> Hello again. cp15, USE_OPENGLES2 says me already which version it is :) . But you tell me that it is used by default if I define the directives? really? on which GUI? all? 10:28 < Eduardo> (and thank you a lot) 10:43 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:44 -!- chollya [~chollya@2a02:7200:0:7:92fb:a6ff:fe36:2aa4] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:47 -!- chollya [~chollya@2a02:7200:0:7:92fb:a6ff:fe36:2aa4] has joined #navit 10:59 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit 11:08 -!- some_nick [511a9e5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.26.158.92] has joined #navit 11:08 < some_nick> hi all 11:08 < some_nick> who speek russion ? 11:08 < some_nick> =) 11:19 < Eduardo> I know somebody who does, but I do not speak it myself. If you need a short translation and you can wait until tomorrow... 11:33 -!- Nido [~nido@wardenscat.foxserver.be] has joined #navit 11:35 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has joined #navit 11:47 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has joined #navit 12:02 -!- some_nick [511a9e5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.26.158.92] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:10 -!- jffathome_ [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 12:54 -!- jffathome_ [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:00 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has joined #navit 13:17 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:23 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has joined #navit 13:24 -!- z30 [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 13:28 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38 < Eduardo> ( I ask myself if there is some kind of "log" which I can use to find out how navit is working, introducing calls to it in the code, compiling and looking what comes out ) 13:54 < Nido> Eduardo: the output on the terminal is pretty verbose. If you need more I think you may want to look at gdb 13:58 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has joined #navit 14:33 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has left #navit [] 14:35 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF7BF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 15:58 -!- davem [~davem@skynet.skynet.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:03 < Eduardo> Can somebody explain me how can I see the text written with the "dgb()" command? I am still pretty green, sorry. 16:03 < Eduardo> Must be some kind of diagnostics, log, etc. 16:07 -!- groquik [4ff73aa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.247.58.163] has joined #navit 16:10 < groquik> hello 16:10 < groquik> eduardo, since I asked the same yesterday here the answer from @cp15 16:11 < groquik> 09:28 <@cp15> groquik, 09:28 <@cp15> or 09:28 <@cp15> 16:34 < groquik> the first question was how to see the dbg(x, "bla") ? 16:39 -!- takuan [~takuan@61-22-86-191.rev.home.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:43 -!- stephan75 [~opera@e176155100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 17:10 -!- davem [~davem@skynet.skynet.ie] has joined #navit 17:13 -!- ham73tux [~ham73tux@12.152.180.250] has joined #navit 17:19 -!- davem [~davem@skynet.skynet.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:25 -!- hexlotar [2ecac006@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.202.192.6] has joined #navit 17:26 < hexlotar> hello 17:26 < hexlotar> could someone help me with understanding NAVIT architecture 17:49 < arpy> @cp15 Hi Martin-S, I notet you integrated my patch for the WIN32 GCC map struct alignment bug (even a better version of it) into Navit, I just ran a few tests and it seems to work quite fine. Thanks for the quick and nice fix! 17:50 < arpy> However, would you mind fixing the ticket #910 I created for the bug report and for providing the patch? I also can close it myself, but you integrated the fix, so it would be yours to fix the ticket status... 18:00 < hexlotar> Is there some docs about architecture 18:04 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-092-075-123-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 18:06 < antenna1> http://doxygen.navit-project.org/group__navit.html 18:06 -!- mipflund [51e118d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.225.24.212] has joined #navit 18:15 < hexlotar> thanks 18:43 < Number6> Evening, all 18:50 < hexlotar> Good Evening 19:06 -!- mipflund [51e118d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.225.24.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:07 -!- groquik [4ff73aa3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.247.58.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:19 -!- jffathome_ [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 19:22 < Nido> doe anyone hre use navit on the n900? 19:25 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B083130.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 19:28 < Number6> Nido: A few people do. I think woglinde has. What issues are you having? 19:31 < Nido> Number6: I've reinstalled it a few times from different repos, first from maemo extras, and now from bokomoko. gui-internal doesn't start because "no graphics" (in the maemo version it started, but there was no back button). the qml version works though the layout is still very shaky, and I seem unable to get it to start navigating 19:32 < Nido> when i start it up now i get a green-ish window, with a gray ~1x1cm square in the bottom left, and a ~1x1.5 square in the top left with a circle uggesting it may be for a compass. 19:33 < Number6> I'm afraid that I don't have an n900 (Windows Mobile, Windows CE, iPhone, Linux and Windows 7 :) ) 19:33 < Number6> Oh, and MacOs! Sadly, I don't have an N900. But someone here should be able to help 19:34 < Number6> Just be patient, lots of people come and go 19:34 < Nido> I shall hang around. meanwhile, I will install a linux build on my laptop to see if I can make sense of the ui quirks i am experiencing. 19:34 -!- 31NAAUFI7 [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 19:35 -!- jffathome_ [~quassel@p5DCCE2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:37 < Nido> Number6: my immediate goal is to get it to navigate me to a certain place; would you know if there is a command-line argument which I can use to get the program to start navigating me there? 19:48 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF7BF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:53 < Number6> Nido: I don't think there is, no. 19:59 <@cp15> Nido, depends how you define the "place". If you have coordinates, no problem 20:00 < Nido> cp15: I do have coordinates. my destination is 52° 50' 1" N, 13° 40' 35" E 20:01 -!- LionKMP [~lion@catv-80-99-68-121.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #navit 20:01 < Nido> "somewhere in that area" would be good enough. it is the location of the ccc camp; I don't think the final few meters will be a problem 20:01 <@cp15> Great, I will be also at the ccc camp 20:02 < Nido> yay! 20:02 < Number6> Bring me back sweets :-) 20:03 <@cp15> :-) No sweets there, but I could bring you mud, there will be more than enough 20:03 -!- AlexWien [3eb2a7e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.178.167.226] has joined #navit 20:03 < Nido> club mate! 20:03 < AlexWien> Hi 20:04 < Number6> I'm Irish, I've plenty of mud 20:04 < Nido> hello AlexWien. We were just discussing getting to the ccc camp using navit 20:04 -!- stephan75 [~opera@e176155100.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #navit [] 20:04 < Number6> Nido: My local hackerspace is going, so I get to drink all their Club Mate 20:05 < AlexWien> @Number6: I have been in irland last year, 20:05 < Nido> Number6: I'm fesh out of mate here, but at ccc there will be plenty; so we both win :) 20:06 < Number6> AlexWien: What part? 20:06 <@cp15> Nido, somethink like navit -e 'navit.set_destination("5250 N 1340 E")' should work 20:06 < Number6> Nido: I'm jealous! Next year, I'll go to CCC 20:06 < AlexWien> best pub culture, although they close somethings a bit early 20:06 < Number6> AlexWien: Not in some places. 2am is the normal closing time 20:07 <@cp15> Number6, there is the congress each year between christmas and new year, camp is every two years alternating in the netherlands or near berlin 20:07 -!- hexlotar [2ecac006@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.202.192.6] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:08 < AlexWien> a round trip clockwise from dublin, along the coast, till ariving in dublin again 20:08 < AlexWien> 3000 km 20:08 < Number6> AlexWien: Did you enjoy Galway? You'd better have :-) 20:08 < Number6> cp15: Yeah, but I want to go camping. Nothing like a big pile of Germans in a field getting drunk 20:11 < AlexWien> Galway: Yes we camped at the salthill camp, with a perfect sunset. 20:12 < AlexWien> They didn tlike that we made a fire on our grill at 22:00h 20:12 < AlexWien> with an original irhish firelog 20:12 < Number6> :-D 20:13 < AlexWien> HI Cp 20:13 < Number6> I'm glad you liked Galway. It's my hometown 20:14 < AlexWien> have your read my mail about Nullpointer SegFault in gui_internal.c when street is null 20:14 < AlexWien> @cp have you read .... 20:15 < AlexWien> I love driving in Irland; Its much fun at that narrow roads 20:16 < Number6> AlexWien: No it's not! Our roads are shit 20:16 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B083130.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:17 < AlexWien> that makes driving more demanding 20:18 < AlexWien> drivin around ring of beara, there where tourist busses cannot go, is fine. 20:20 < AlexWien> On my current win32 build, the exact destination is onyl found when the house number is visible on the map 20:21 < AlexWien> I even got an seg Fault which i fixed, but its not a good fix. 20:25 < Nido> cp15: what command line arguments would I use to get navit to navigate me to a location (in this case long 13.67641 lat 52.83372)? 20:26 < Nido> oh, missed it 20:26 < Nido> sorry 20:27 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 20:33 < LionKMP> hi, where are the log files? I logged some tracks today by enabling logging on the GUI. 20:33 <@cp15> navit -e 'navit.set_destination("13.67641 52.83372")' 20:34 <@cp15> logging on the GUI? Where? 20:34 < LionKMP> moment, device is in the window :) 20:35 < LionKMP> settings->map->tracking 20:38 <@cp15> Ah... Sorry... That doesn't do what you want 20:39 < LionKMP> :( need to edit XML? :) 20:39 <@cp15> It just enables the "tracking" (map matching) map for display to debug map matching problems 20:39 <@cp15> Currently yes 20:40 < AlexWien> hi Cp15 20:40 < LionKMP> so far I tried only adding a map in that XML but always failed. But I'll give a try to set logging there too. :) (Openmoko package comes with some nonexisitng map files preconfigured, what I cannot get a rid of from XMLs) 20:40 < AlexWien> have you read my mails (one about seg fault in house numbers) 20:44 <@cp15> AlexWien, see my priv msgs 20:45 < AlexWien> i ever oversee that pribvate tba 20:45 < AlexWien> private tab 20:46 -!- OwenLA7QZ1 [~OwenLA7QZ@93.121.221.195] has joined #navit 20:47 <@cp15> I hope you are a registered user else I can't see your reply 20:49 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:08 -!- LionKMP [~lion@catv-80-99-68-121.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:12 -!- korrosa [~netbook@host-78-145-252-176.as13285.net] has joined #navit 21:12 < korrosa> Holiday over. Boooo :( 21:15 <@cp15> No, holiday is starting again, tomorrow at the camp 21:18 < Number6> 3 holidays... 21:19 < Number6> I'm not getting any. CeBIT was mine. Feickers with your fancy holidays 21:19 < Number6> korrosa: Where's my rock? 21:19 < korrosa> Dude, I was no-where near Skegness!! 21:19 < korrosa> No rock for you. 21:19 < Number6> :-( 21:20 < korrosa> I can give you a couple of disappeared suitcases if you'd like to manage that? 21:20 < Number6> No thanks. Siberian Airlines still has one of mine somewhere in Siberia 21:20 -!- AlexWien [3eb2a7e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.178.167.226] has left #navit [] 21:22 < korrosa> Wow, that one is never coming back! 21:24 < Number6> No, no it is not. I think it was on the plane that crashed near the airport built on a graveyard... In the middle of Siberia 21:25 < korrosa> Where did they bury the survivors? 21:25 < Number6> Good question! 21:34 -!- OwenLA7QZ1 [~OwenLA7QZ@93.121.221.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:37 -!- diesel4 [c1c59d96@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.197.157.150] has joined #navit 21:38 < diesel4> Hello Navit Team 21:41 <@cp15> Hi diesel4 21:42 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229047185.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 21:42 -!- OwenLA7QZ [~OwenLA7QZ@93.121.221.195] has joined #navit 21:42 < diesel4> It is possible to insert greater OSM .bin Files(Over 2GB FileSize) in Navit? Under Windows XP and Windows7 only view OSM Files under 2GB 21:44 < Number6> diesel4: What file system are you using? 21:46 < diesel4> Hi Number6, i am using NTFS File System also in XP and Win7 21:46 < 31NAAUFI7> Hi diesel, my europe.bin has 3.4 GB and its works fine 21:46 < woglinde> good old fat32 21:46 -!- 31NAAUFI7 is now known as jffathome 21:47 < Number6> woglinde: Fat32 can address a file size of 4GB 21:47 < jffathome> ... under android 21:47 < Number6> FAT16 maxes out at 2GB 21:49 <@cp15> Yes, up to 4 GB is possible (using it every day) 21:50 <@cp15> Reformatting the sd card as ext2 will give you more than 4 GB 21:50 < diesel4> Hi jffathome, you are installed navit and your europe.bin under windows? 21:52 -!- OwenLA7QZ [~OwenLA7QZ@93.121.221.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:52 < diesel4> Hi cp15, i am using a normal home PC with an Harddisk 21:54 <@cp15> Not sure whether it will work there... I intend to extend the planet extractor so it can split the maps to 2 GB parts 21:55 <@cp15> Because with the currently close to 8 GB planet even fat32 under linux fails 22:00 < diesel4> ok, i tried to split the map in two parts with the plain extractor. Now i must wait a few hours for download the new (small) bin Files. Thanks for all Chat-User have tried to help me. 22:02 < jffathome> diesel4 under Win XP & Win 7 with ntfs it works fine too 22:06 -!- OwenLA7QZ1 [~OwenLA7QZ@93.121.221.195] has joined #navit 22:07 < diesel4> Hi jffathome. Have you any ideas why it dont work on my PC with Windows and NTFS ? 22:13 < diesel4> Hi, I just got an idea why it does not work. It is possible if i used Internet Explorer to dowload the Files from the Planet Extractor Website, the Internet Explorer damaged the Files over 2GB? 22:17 < jffathome> diesel4: in the moment i have only one idea: one bug in an library, who returns a wrong filesize by files over 2GB.... 22:19 < jffathome> ... but I must search in my bugreports on my work tomorrow 22:29 < woglinde> good nite 22:30 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229047185.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:56 -!- rd [~rd@p57B491B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 23:00 -!- rd [~rd@p57B491B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@59.74.8.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 23:06 <@cp15> Good night 23:08 < Number6> Night, cp15 23:12 < diesel4> jffathome: i tried a 3,5 GB File (download with Firefox) but unfortunately the same problem. No OSM Map in Navit. 23:19 < korrosa> diesel4: Just a thought, as I don't see you've mentioned it - you do have enough diskspace for the map in the first place, right? Screws me up from time to time.... 23:19 -!- korrosa [~netbook@host-78-145-252-176.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:28 < diesel4> Hi, free disk space on my computer 1,7 TB . I hope its enough;-) 23:29 < diesel4> jffathome: now i found an error message in the log File : map_binfile:map_binfile_open:invalid file format for 'C:\Navit/maps/osm_DE.bin' 23:30 -!- antenna1 [~ion@dslb-092-075-123-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #navit [] 23:31 < diesel4> jffathome: if i used osm binfiles under 2GB: no error in the logfile and the map works fine in navit 23:38 < diesel4> good nite 23:40 -!- diesel4 [c1c59d96@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.197.157.150] has left #navit [] 23:40 -!- ham73tux [~ham73tux@12.152.180.250] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Tue Aug 09 00:00:41 2011