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07:50 <@Horwitz> morgen
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08:47 < Eduardo> Hello!
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09:13 < Number6> Morning
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09:22 < Eduardo> Is somewhere documented, which OpenGL is used by navit when the graphic driver OpenGL is selected?
09:26 < Number6> I'm not too sure, I'm afraid. Most documentation is in the wiki or source-code.
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09:48 < kenguest> Good Caffeine-time everyone
09:51 < Eduardo> Thank you for your answer, Number6 . Also negative information is information :) .
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10:12 <@cp15> Eduardo, by default opengl is used, you need to define USE_OPENGLES or USE_OPENGLES2 for ES
10:28 < Eduardo> Hello again. cp15, USE_OPENGLES2 says me already which version it is :) . But you tell me that it is used by default if I define the directives? really? on which GUI? all?
10:28 < Eduardo> (and thank you a lot)
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11:08 < some_nick> hi all
11:08 < some_nick> who speek russion ?
11:08 < some_nick> =)
11:19 < Eduardo> I know somebody who does, but I do not speak it myself. If you need a short translation and you can wait until tomorrow...
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13:38 < Eduardo> ( I ask myself if there is some kind of "log" which I can use to find out how navit is working, introducing calls to it in the code, compiling and looking what comes out )
13:54 < Nido> Eduardo: the output on the terminal is pretty verbose. If you need more I think you may want to look at gdb
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16:03 < Eduardo> Can somebody explain me how can I see the text written with the "dgb()" command? I am still pretty green, sorry.
16:03 < Eduardo> Must be some kind of diagnostics, log, etc.
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16:10 < groquik> hello
16:10 < groquik> eduardo, since I asked the same yesterday here the answer from @cp15
16:11 < groquik> 09:28 <@cp15> groquik, 09:28 <@cp15> or 09:28 <@cp15>
16:34 < groquik> the first question was how to see the dbg(x, "bla") ?
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17:26 < hexlotar> hello
17:26 < hexlotar> could someone help me with understanding NAVIT architecture
17:49 < arpy> @cp15 Hi Martin-S, I notet you integrated my patch for the WIN32 GCC map struct alignment bug (even a better version of it) into Navit, I just ran a few tests and it seems to work quite fine. Thanks for the quick and nice fix!
17:50 < arpy> However, would you mind fixing the ticket #910 I created for the bug report and for providing the patch? I also can close it myself, but you integrated the fix, so it would be yours to fix the ticket status...
18:00 < hexlotar> Is there some docs about architecture
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18:06 < antenna1> http://doxygen.navit-project.org/group__navit.html
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18:15 < hexlotar> thanks
18:43 < Number6> Evening, all
18:50 < hexlotar> Good Evening
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19:22 < Nido> doe anyone hre use navit on the n900?
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19:28 < Number6> Nido: A few people do. I think woglinde has. What issues are you having?
19:31 < Nido> Number6: I've reinstalled it a few times from different repos, first from maemo extras, and now from bokomoko. gui-internal doesn't start because "no graphics" (in the maemo version it started, but there was no back button). the qml version works though the layout is still very shaky, and I seem unable to get it to start navigating
19:32 < Nido> when i start it up now i get a green-ish window, with a gray ~1x1cm square in the bottom left, and a ~1x1.5 square in the top left with a circle uggesting it may be for a compass.
19:33 < Number6> I'm afraid that I don't have an n900 (Windows Mobile, Windows CE, iPhone, Linux and Windows 7 :) )
19:33 < Number6> Oh, and MacOs! Sadly, I don't have an N900. But someone here should be able to help
19:34 < Number6> Just be patient, lots of people come and go
19:34 < Nido> I shall hang around. meanwhile, I will install a linux build on my laptop to see if I can make sense of the ui quirks i am experiencing.
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19:37 < Nido> Number6: my immediate goal is to get it to navigate me to a certain place; would you know if there is a command-line argument which I can use to get the program to start navigating me there?
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19:53 < Number6> Nido: I don't think there is, no.
19:59 <@cp15> Nido, depends how you define the "place". If you have coordinates, no problem
20:00 < Nido> cp15: I do have coordinates. my destination is 52° 50' 1" N, 13° 40' 35" E
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20:01 < Nido> "somewhere in that area" would be good enough. it is the location of the ccc camp; I don't think the final few meters will be a problem
20:01 <@cp15> Great, I will be also at the ccc camp
20:02 < Nido> yay!
20:02 < Number6> Bring me back sweets :-)
20:03 <@cp15> :-) No sweets there, but I could bring you mud, there will be more than enough
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20:03 < Nido> club mate!
20:03 < AlexWien> Hi
20:04 < Number6> I'm Irish, I've plenty of mud
20:04 < Nido> hello AlexWien. We were just discussing getting to the ccc camp using navit
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20:04 < Number6> Nido: My local hackerspace is going, so I get to drink all their Club Mate
20:05 < AlexWien> @Number6: I have been in irland last year,
20:05 < Nido> Number6: I'm fesh out of mate here, but at ccc there will be plenty; so we both win :)
20:06 < Number6> AlexWien: What part?
20:06 <@cp15> Nido, somethink like navit -e 'navit.set_destination("5250 N 1340 E")' should work
20:06 < Number6> Nido: I'm jealous! Next year, I'll go to CCC
20:06 < AlexWien> best pub culture, although they close somethings a bit early
20:06 < Number6> AlexWien: Not in some places. 2am is the normal closing time
20:07 <@cp15> Number6, there is the congress each year between christmas and new year, camp is every two years alternating in the netherlands or near berlin
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20:08 < AlexWien> a round trip clockwise from dublin, along the coast, till ariving in dublin again
20:08 < AlexWien> 3000 km
20:08 < Number6> AlexWien: Did you enjoy Galway? You'd better have :-)
20:08 < Number6> cp15: Yeah, but I want to go camping. Nothing like a big pile of Germans in a field getting drunk
20:11 < AlexWien> Galway: Yes we camped at the salthill camp, with a perfect sunset.
20:12 < AlexWien> They didn tlike that we made a fire on our grill at 22:00h
20:12 < AlexWien> with an original irhish firelog
20:12 < Number6> :-D
20:13 < AlexWien> HI Cp
20:13 < Number6> I'm glad you liked Galway. It's my hometown
20:14 < AlexWien> have your read my mail about Nullpointer SegFault in gui_internal.c when street is null
20:14 < AlexWien> @cp have you read ....
20:15 < AlexWien> I love driving in Irland; Its much fun at that narrow roads
20:16 < Number6> AlexWien: No it's not! Our roads are shit
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20:17 < AlexWien> that makes driving more demanding
20:18 < AlexWien> drivin around ring of beara, there where tourist busses cannot go, is fine.
20:20 < AlexWien> On my current win32 build, the exact destination is onyl found when the house number is visible on the map
20:21 < AlexWien> I even got an seg Fault which i fixed, but its not a good fix.
20:25 < Nido> cp15: what command line arguments would I use to get navit to navigate me to a location (in this case long 13.67641 lat 52.83372)?
20:26 < Nido> oh, missed it
20:26 < Nido> sorry
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20:33 < LionKMP> hi, where are the log files? I logged some tracks today by enabling logging on the GUI.
20:33 <@cp15> navit -e 'navit.set_destination("13.67641 52.83372")'
20:34 <@cp15> logging on the GUI? Where?
20:34 < LionKMP> moment, device is in the window :)
20:35 < LionKMP> settings->map->tracking
20:38 <@cp15> Ah... Sorry... That doesn't do what you want
20:39 < LionKMP> :( need to edit XML? :)
20:39 <@cp15> It just enables the "tracking" (map matching) map for display to debug map matching problems
20:39 <@cp15> Currently yes
20:40 < AlexWien> hi Cp15
20:40 < LionKMP> so far I tried only adding a map in that XML but always failed. But I'll give a try to set logging there too. :) (Openmoko package comes with some nonexisitng map files preconfigured, what I cannot get a rid of from XMLs)
20:40 < AlexWien> have you read my mails (one about seg fault in house numbers)
20:44 <@cp15> AlexWien, see my priv msgs
20:45 < AlexWien> i ever oversee that pribvate tba
20:45 < AlexWien> private tab
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20:47 <@cp15> I hope you are a registered user else I can't see your reply
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21:12 < korrosa> Holiday over. Boooo :(
21:15 <@cp15> No, holiday is starting again, tomorrow at the camp
21:18 < Number6> 3 holidays...
21:19 < Number6> I'm not getting any. CeBIT was mine. Feickers with your fancy holidays
21:19 < Number6> korrosa: Where's my rock?
21:19 < korrosa> Dude, I was no-where near Skegness!!
21:19 < korrosa> No rock for you.
21:19 < Number6> :-(
21:20 < korrosa> I can give you a couple of disappeared suitcases if you'd like to manage that?
21:20 < Number6> No thanks. Siberian Airlines still has one of mine somewhere in Siberia
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21:22 < korrosa> Wow, that one is never coming back!
21:24 < Number6> No, no it is not. I think it was on the plane that crashed near the airport built on a graveyard... In the middle of Siberia
21:25 < korrosa> Where did they bury the survivors?
21:25 < Number6> Good question!
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21:38 < diesel4> Hello Navit Team
21:41 <@cp15> Hi diesel4
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21:42 < diesel4> It is possible to insert greater OSM .bin Files(Over 2GB FileSize) in Navit? Under Windows XP and Windows7 only view OSM Files under 2GB
21:44 < Number6> diesel4: What file system are you using?
21:46 < diesel4> Hi Number6, i am using NTFS File System also in XP and Win7
21:46 < 31NAAUFI7> Hi diesel, my europe.bin has 3.4 GB and its works fine
21:46 < woglinde> good old fat32
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21:47 < Number6> woglinde: Fat32 can address a file size of 4GB
21:47 < jffathome> ... under android
21:47 < Number6> FAT16 maxes out at 2GB
21:49 <@cp15> Yes, up to 4 GB is possible (using it every day)
21:50 <@cp15> Reformatting the sd card as ext2 will give you more than 4 GB
21:50 < diesel4> Hi jffathome, you are installed navit and your europe.bin under windows?
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21:52 < diesel4> Hi cp15, i am using a normal home PC with an Harddisk
21:54 <@cp15> Not sure whether it will work there... I intend to extend the planet extractor so it can split the maps to 2 GB parts
21:55 <@cp15> Because with the currently close to 8 GB planet even fat32 under linux fails
22:00 < diesel4> ok, i tried to split the map in two parts with the plain extractor. Now i must wait a few hours for download the new (small) bin Files. Thanks for all Chat-User have tried to help me.
22:02 < jffathome> diesel4 under Win XP & Win 7 with ntfs it works fine too
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22:07 < diesel4> Hi jffathome. Have you any ideas why it dont work on my PC with Windows and NTFS ?
22:13 < diesel4> Hi, I just got an idea why it does not work. It is possible if i used Internet Explorer to dowload the Files from the Planet Extractor Website, the Internet Explorer damaged the Files over 2GB?
22:17 < jffathome> diesel4: in the moment i have only one idea: one bug in an library, who returns a wrong filesize by files over 2GB....
22:19 < jffathome> ... but I must search in my bugreports on my work tomorrow
22:29 < woglinde> good nite
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23:06 <@cp15> Good night
23:08 < Number6> Night, cp15
23:12 < diesel4> jffathome: i tried a 3,5 GB File (download with Firefox) but unfortunately the same problem. No OSM Map in Navit.
23:19 < korrosa> diesel4: Just a thought, as I don't see you've mentioned it - you do have enough diskspace for the map in the first place, right? Screws me up from time to time....
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23:28 < diesel4> Hi, free disk space on my computer 1,7 TB . I hope its enough;-)
23:29 < diesel4> jffathome: now i found an error message in the log File : map_binfile:map_binfile_open:invalid file format for 'C:\Navit/maps/osm_DE.bin'
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23:31 < diesel4> jffathome: if i used osm binfiles under 2GB: no error in the logfile and the map works fine in navit
23:38 < diesel4> good nite
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