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00:00 < curious> but still one crash less during travel makes one usually more happy ;)
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00:07 < roboso> Ciao, I installed Android on Navit, only that the voice in the Italian language is very robotic and metal plus it does not say some good words, is there any way to fix?
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00:40 < curious> roboso, it's because it's android ;)
00:41 < curious> roboso, srsly, there are few backends for speech in linux, i am not sure which one is used by android, but if it sounds robotic i guess it's speech synth
00:41 < curious> erm ,in navit
00:41 < curious> afaik in linux one can also use samples, so one can use any voice , assuming one has all samples for it prepared
00:42 < curious> on wince one can use only speech synth though for some reason
00:43 < curious> i hope android can use either
00:44 < curious> also on linux one can change speech synth used, but on mobile devices more advanced ones usually max out memory anyway
00:45 < curious> though i think festival could also cache responses, so i.e. frequently used responsed can be 'cached' by speech synth as samples
00:46 < curious> well, either way it requires some tinkering outside navit's scope usually , i.e. navit has no own speech synth solution or sample sets
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00:48 < curious> personally i'm happy with robotic voice as one can easily get used to it and it requires least resources
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05:53 <@Horwitz> morgen
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06:02 < panda81> morgen
06:22 < ColdFyre> processing an OSM map of north america
06:22 < ColdFyre> taking foreverrrrr
06:23 < ColdFyre> who wants the bin file, lol
06:25 < panda81> do you know the binary format
06:31 < ColdFyre> no, i'm just using maptool
06:33 < panda81> wonder if there are Windows users. I still can't get the maptool or anything compiled
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09:08 < GosuBuster> hello
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09:08 < aseton> hi all
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09:14 < MatzeM> hi there
09:15 < MatzeM> is anybody out there, that is willing to give me some background facts about how you manage the development process?
09:16 < MatzeM> I'm thinking of contributing to NAVIT as part of a course of my master studies :)
09:17 < Number6> MatzeM: The development process is generally, if you find bugs (and can fix them), open a ticket with a patch. The same is true for new features
09:18 < Number6> After a while, if the code is good, you will be given commit access
09:19 < MatzeM> well the course is "complex software systems" so about learning how to join a software project, read old code, doing extensions, ...
09:19 < MatzeM> to be hornest I
09:19 < MatzeM> 'm not that experienced in contributing to FOSS projects :(
09:19 < Number6> Neither was I, when I started
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09:20 < MatzeM> Well cause I'm from OSM I checked out Navit on Windows/Linux and found some minor bugs and would like to help to improve usability (esp. easier configuration, setup ,deployment,...)
09:21 < MatzeM> so you think this are aspects that you maintainers would like to see?
09:21 < Number6> Yes, of course! :-)
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09:22 < MatzeM> Well I know that I'm newbie but what I hope to realise is:
09:22 < Number6> Usability is in issue that needs addressing.
09:22 < MatzeM> -splitup of config files -> make it easier to share themes, ...
09:23 < MatzeM> -splitup of map style (so what should appear on a map) and it's styling ('a german map has the following colouring')
09:23 < Number6> You mean the main navit.xml? That can already be done, it just isn't. Devices like WinCE can only have 999 items per .cab file
09:23 < MatzeM> oh realy? guess both are real big things
09:25 < MatzeM> dunno, you think this would be possible?
09:25 < MatzeM> another aspect is:
09:25 < Number6> That's the only real downside to splitting up the config files, as every other archiving system will support more files.
09:25 < MatzeM> -poorting NVAIT to openpandora handhelt
09:26 < Number6> Yes, that would be possible. Since OpenPandora runs linux, if it has GCC and can meet the dependencies, it can be ported
09:26 < Number6> (Where GCC is any C Compiler)
09:26 < MatzeM> someone compiled a binary but thats bugy and not deployed in a package, now downloader for OSM, ....
09:27 < MatzeM> *will return in a few minutes*
09:27 < Number6> Actually, if you really wanted to work on a particular feature, on device (in Navit) downloading of maps would be great. We need something that is cross platform
09:30 <@cp15> Yeah that would be grat
09:30 <@cp15> great
09:30 <@cp15> Support for it is already there in parts, but not yet complete
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09:33 < Number6> Did you hear that Dennis Ritchie died?
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09:46 <@cp15> Now yes
09:47 < Number6> I wonder if people will light a candle next to their copy of K&R
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09:55 < Matze-M> back again :)
09:56 < Matze-M> well yes a general cross-plattform downloader for OSM would be great
09:56 < Matze-M> but I'm not that sure if it would be easy to realise in a cross-plattform way
09:56 < Matze-M> saw the Android port has such a tool
09:57 <@cp15> Part of it is already there, it just needs some fixes and improvements
09:57 < Matze-M> in what lang is it coded? what UI framework?
09:57 <@cp15> Yeah, and for webos there is a different tool... And for wince? And for the iphone? A different tool everywhere?
09:58 <@cp15> C
09:58 < Matze-M> and UI toolkit? GTK?
09:58 <@cp15> And gui internal, a cross plattform navit-internal toolkit
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09:59 < Matze-M> oh ik, so it's within NAVIT? great :)
10:00 <@cp15> Well, it has its limitation, but it saves the work to do everything for x platforms
10:00 < Matze-M> well but my next steps has to check if I still can suggest a project for my course and to find a Prof that would like this FOSS aspect and NAVIT of course
10:03 < Number6> A University (not mine, I might add) had a Masters project a student could take that involved Navit
10:03 <@cp15> Really? What?
10:04 < Matze-M> well yes but its not for my master thesis
10:04 < Number6> I'll see if I can find it
10:04 < Matze-M> infact I just started my master study this week ;)
10:04 < Matze-M> ok so thanks for your informations folks :)
10:05 < Number6> I'll correct myself, it was for a Final year project for a Science degree - http://www.comp.dit.ie/mafoley/fyp/
10:05 < Matze-M> oh and of course for the nice Tool that show uphow good OSM can be used :D
10:05 < Matze-M> cya
10:05 < Number6> No problem, Matze-M. Have a good morning
10:05 < Number6>  Implement and/or extend Navit open source in-car navigation system on mobile device such as Windows Mobile or similar.
10:05 < Number6> That was the title, cp15
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10:10 <@cp15> What? Implement Navit on windows mobile? Just doing a download to get a degree?
10:13 < Number6> I think the lecturer wanted it extended. I'd say Windows Mobile was just a place holder for other mobile devices like Android, iPhone, etc
10:23 <@cp15> I guess I should write a few theses about navit and earn some degrees :-)
10:24 < Number6> There was a great quote from an Irish political pundit, when a panelist on his show said he had two economice degrees. "Two economice degrees, that's an awful handicap to have"
10:27 <@cp15> :-) He was probably an expert in how to ruin europe
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10:50 < Number6> We do enjoy doing that :-)
10:51 < woglinde> hi number6
10:51 < woglinde> hm new task
10:51 < Number6> Hey woglinde
10:51 < woglinde> vehicle for geolocation service via dbus
10:52 < Number6> So Navit will take it's current position from dbus? Cool
10:55 <@cp15> ? That is already there
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10:57 < korrosa> I see all the big guns are in - thought I might as well say hello!
10:58  * Number6 licks korrosa
10:58 < korrosa> Mmmmm
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11:05 < woglinde> cp15 vehicle for geolocation?
11:05 < woglinde> I found an older email where raymond claimed he will drop dbus support in 3.0 release of gpsd
11:06 < woglinde> in favour for geolocation
11:11 < woglinde> hm and there is still the transition to the newer dbus glib stuff
11:11 < woglinde> maybee I will start with gpsd_dbus
11:11 <@cp15> Ah, ok... Now I understand
11:17 < woglinde> unfornatly geolocation dont pushes the stuff
11:17 < woglinde> you have to pull it
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18:48 < hape> cp15: What do you think to switch to night mode when the tunnel exploration is starting. I saw that on other Navis and like it.
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18:53 <@cp15> Might be an interesting thing :-)
18:58 < panda81_> cp15, can you help me on the problem I sent
18:59 <@cp15> That was what?
19:00 < panda81_> Regarding calculating the tile position and dimension corresponding to adbdcbadcadddc
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19:19 < AlexWien> hi, another try
19:20 < AlexWien> still have not solved the locale problem
19:20 < hape> cp15: I checked about the user agent for the Download command. we have no chance to change it.
19:20 < AlexWien> Hi cp15
19:21 < AlexWien> i found, that the pre-build version of navit ionstallation has a locale folder; in my build dir, there is not such a folder
19:21 < hape> cp15: Do you have any numbers on the webOS download from the htm requests?
19:22 < AlexWien> by the way: the NLS_ENABLED is set to 1
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19:26 < AlexWien> anybody online?
19:27 < AlexWien> oh, found the locale folder in buid, it one level above navit
19:31 < AlexWien> anybody knows: whether its is possible under navit / win32 to use or buy a better voice?
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20:08 < AlexWien> Another try
20:08 < AlexWien> cp15 online?
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20:16 < AlexWien> connection to irc broken, here again
20:16 < AlexWien> On tuesday I have a presentation where navit wioll be a part of it.
20:16 < AlexWien> But still the german locale is not working
20:17 < woglinde> hm
20:17 < woglinde> sorry
20:17 < AlexWien> hi wogelinde
20:17 < woglinde> dont know how locales works on win32
20:17 < AlexWien> NLS_ENABLED is set to 1
20:18 < AlexWien> the pre-build navit works
20:18 < AlexWien> in my build there is only english
20:18 < AlexWien> i copied the locale folder to the smae hierahcy wher navit.exe is located, (at the build/navit) foldewr
20:19 < AlexWien> but this diddnt help
20:19 < woglinde> as I said
20:19 < woglinde> dont know how locale works on win32
20:19 < AlexWien> maybe cp15 will help
20:20 < AlexWien> Currently I disabled all pois. expect the gas stations
20:20 < AlexWien> the Car layout looks not fine which that huge overload of POIs
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20:24 < panda81_> hehe patience :). I emailed him yesterday morning and only now he may (or may not) be looking at my problem.
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20:24 < AlexWien_> my con was broken again
20:24 < AlexWien_> woge still online
20:24 < woglinde> yes
20:24 < AlexWien_> I asume there was nothing new about locale in the meantime
20:24 < AlexWien_> so another question
20:25 < AlexWien_> woge are yu familira with user pois?
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20:25 < AlexWien_> i dont have quit
20:26 < AlexWien_> ;-)
20:26 < woglinde> yes a bit
20:27 < AlexWien_> but I (in navit)  shold be able to dynamicaly move some stations from reed to green
20:27 < AlexWien_> gas stations are not the default ones, they should be own icons
20:27 < AlexWien_> moving will b  e programmatically
20:28 < woglinde> ?
20:28 < AlexWien_> are they user pis in a simple vector, or at a complicated quad tree structure?
20:28 < AlexWien_> user pois
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20:28 < AlexWien_> so i want to poi classes red stations and green stations
20:29 < AlexWien_> which part of src code handles the User Pois?
20:31 < woglinde> you can use csv file
20:31 < woglinde> which will be stored in a quadtree
20:31 < woglinde> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_csv_format
20:32 < AlexWien_> ah bad
20:32 < woglinde> you need to alter your navit xml
20:32 < woglinde> choose two diffrent item_type="poi_hotel"
20:32 < woglinde> and change the image for that
20:32 < woglinde> there are 3 or 4 custom you could use
20:32 < AlexWien_> yes i will manage that
20:33 < AlexWien_> but I need to intercept the drawing, to supress inactiva gas stations, like a hotel that is booked, and not availabelö
20:33 < woglinde> inactive?
20:34 < AlexWien_> yes like a hotel that has no free rooms
20:34 < AlexWien_> thsi hotel should be red icon
20:34 < AlexWien_> the free hotels, green icon
20:34 < AlexWien_> i could put all hotles in both ois classes
20:34 < AlexWien_> poi_hotles_free
20:34 < AlexWien_> poi_hotle_occupied
20:35 < AlexWien_> and somewhee in navit I have a list of free hotles
20:35 < woglinde> hm?
20:36 < AlexWien_> and when the poi shoudl be drawn, I will avoid that drawing
20:36 < AlexWien_> so I will either draw the red or the green hotel icon
20:36 < AlexWien_> Ideally i would remove them dynamically from the quadtree
20:36 < AlexWien_> and add them
20:37 < AlexWien_> but his could be a bit complicated
20:37 < AlexWien_> or not?
20:37 < AlexWien_> maybe easier than intercepting
20:37 < AlexWien_> before drawing
20:37 < AlexWien_> in one word "dynamic POIs"
20:37 < AlexWien_> not static ones
20:38 < woglinde> hm I am not sure if it will work
20:38 < woglinde> you might will ask dandor
20:38 < AlexWien_> ormaybe more primitive:
20:38 < woglinde> he made the csv driver and quadtree
20:38 < AlexWien_> simply relaod the user pois every minute
20:38 < woglinde> not needed just exchange the map file
20:39 < AlexWien_> the csv file?
20:39 < AlexWien_> did yu mean the csv file?
20:39 < AlexWien_> or the mao file?
20:39 < woglinde> hm the csv file
20:40 < woglinde> hm in our project we make it with a bin map in shared memory
20:40 < woglinde> and on linux
20:40 < AlexWien_> yes, but when the "hotel" is booked, then i can alter the csv files,
20:40 < AlexWien_> but have to call al relaod function
20:41 < woglinde> hm our binmap do n't needed to be reloaded
20:41 < AlexWien_> I could managethe pois by myself, but I must but them on the display list
20:41 < AlexWien_> which is  a bit complicated what I have seen
20:41 < woglinde> as I said our bin map is dynamic
20:42 < woglinde> and we dont need to reload it
20:42 < AlexWien_> so you alter the quad tree dynamically ?
20:43 < woglinde> dont you listen
20:43 < woglinde> we are using a bin map
20:43 < woglinde> not csv
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20:44 < AlexWien_> yes, but the file all maps in navit are called bin map
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20:46 < AlexWien> yes i have listen
20:46 < AlexWien> and understood
20:46 < woglinde> no
20:46 < woglinde> look at the drivers
20:46 < AlexWien> your bin file is shared memory is a quad tree
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20:46 < AlexWien> or not?
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20:47 < woglinde> we are using a map that is compatible with the binfile driver in navit
20:47 < AlexWien> hm
20:47 < panda81> Bin map is the problem I asked cp15. What's wrong with your bin map
20:48 < AlexWien> i thought bin map is a structure where the vectores a stored in a quad tree
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20:49 < woglinde> hi tryagain
20:49 < panda81> The bin file contains many files. Each is self identified as part of a quad tree
20:49 < tryagain> hi woglinde
20:49 < tryagain> and all
20:49 < panda81> hi try
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20:51 < AlexWien_> yes that is waht I said, the bin file is a (or more quads)  quad tree, so when woge uses a dynamic map, he must alter the quad tree on the fly, or not?
20:52 < panda81> Define dynamic map
20:52 < AlexWien_> which will change on the fly
20:52 < AlexWien_> every 30 seconnds
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20:52 < AlexWien_> inmy case I only wnat to have pois which  are active or not
20:53 < AlexWien_> panda any idea whats the easiest way
20:53 < AlexWien_> like green and red hotels
20:53 < panda81> Are you implementing a quad tree or does Navit use a quad tree for rendering?
20:53 < AlexWien_> green hotels are free, red are booked
20:53 < AlexWien_> every 30s I like to update the status of such a special hotel
20:54 < AlexWien_> navit uses a quad tree to store the map
20:54 < AlexWien_> geo spatial structire)
20:54 < AlexWien_> to not have to search millions of vectors
20:55 < AlexWien_> but id odont like to change the pois inside of that complex stuctuire
20:55 < AlexWien_> i want to have dynamic user pois
20:55 < woglinde> alexwien we are updating the map outside of navit
20:56 < AlexWien_> how often?
20:56 < AlexWien_> some day or by minutes?
20:56 < panda81> AlexWien: If you are using Navit's renderer, then what other options do you have?
20:56 < AlexWien_> using user pois
20:57 < AlexWien_> I have learned that the user pois are stored in the quad tree too
20:58 < panda81> So you have to traverse the quad tree every 30 secs, find each hotel in each node, and update according to vacancy status?
20:58 < woglinde> AlexWien_ minuteds
20:58 < woglinde> minutes
20:58 < AlexWien_> yes
20:58 < woglinde> thats why we store in shared memory and not disk
20:59 < AlexWien_> ok, so i have to traverse the quad tree
20:59 < AlexWien_> and change sombe bits of that poi to mark it as booked
21:00 < woglinde> dont know how you are writing your map
21:00 < woglinde> we are writing it completly new
21:00 < panda81> But how do you make Navit's renderer recognize those bits and display red/green accordingly?
21:01 < AlexWien_> good questiopn
21:01 < AlexWien_> I thoujht of two POI classes
21:01 < AlexWien_> green and red hotels
21:02 < woglinde> panda81 thats easy
21:02 < AlexWien_> and dynmicaly "remove" them or inactivate them
21:02 < woglinde> write both maps new
21:02 < woglinde> one map booked
21:02 < woglinde> one map free
21:02 < AlexWien_> or chnage the code of the renderer to not draw it when the id is above 100000 or something liek tghat
21:03 < panda81> woglinde: Write both maps new, you mean reallocate the entire quadtree of map in Navit's app memory?
21:03 < AlexWien_> so i need three maps: vienna, hotels_booked, hotels_free ?
21:03 < AlexWien_> that shoudl be simpler
21:04 < AlexWien_> how about to introduce an active bit in the POI
21:04 < AlexWien_> and stop the renderer to draw it when inactive
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21:05 < AlexWien_> any ideas what will be the simplest way?
21:05 < panda81> woglinde: do you know who else is familiar with the binary format
21:05 < AlexWien_> cp
21:06 < AlexWien_> but it will be much work, to understand the bin format
21:06 < AlexWien_> ther mus be an easier solution, to inactivatre a poi
21:07 < panda81> Is cp the only one? I spent the time to understand the format, but am stuck on one thing.
21:07 < AlexWien_> to deactivate and reactivate
21:08 < AlexWien_> panda whats your oppinion who to actibvate and deactivate pois dynamically ?
21:08 < woglinde> no writing th external file new
21:09 < AlexWien_> whats your opinion woge?
21:10 < panda81> alex: I don't know about the bits you mention and haven't investigated the renderer. The only thing I can think of is add an attribute color to your hotel object, and make the renderer notice that attribute
21:10 < panda81> woglinde: why do you need to write to disk every min? Isn't that slow
21:11 < AlexWien_> or better ad an attribute "is_active" and make the rendere ignore it
21:12 < AlexWien_> however in that case i have to traverse the quad tree and to find the hotle, and to switch the active bit
21:13 < AlexWien_> in woges project he makes that in main memeory and when he is ready with the map changes, he switches to the other map
21:14 < AlexWien_> but for a simple activate of a poi, there should be an easier solution
21:14 < AlexWien_> at least I hope that
21:16 < panda81> I still dont get why you need two maps rather than real time update of one
21:19 < AlexWien_> i dont need thatz, woge needs that
21:20 < woglinde> panda we pulling the map every minute from internet to /dev/shm
21:20 < AlexWien_> maybe he has many changes, and to not make one map inconsitent, he need to switch
21:20 < AlexWien_> if you changethe map while drwaing, that will not be healty
21:20 < woglinde> right
21:20 < woglinde> works quite well
21:21 < AlexWien_> woge, do you knwo if the quad ztree is onyö at disk, and that in binfile in main  memory there is no more quad tree?
21:21 < AlexWien_> .. is only on disk ...
21:24 < woglinde> read the code
21:24 < AlexWien_> am reading currently
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21:24 < AlexWien_> therefore i asked, it looks like tiles are extracted from the quad,
21:27 < AlexWien_> binfile.c has not one line of comment.
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21:28 < tryagain> AlexWien_ Why do you trying to use binary format for hotels. Do you really have millions of ones? If not, just use additional csv map with selected POIs and don't bother understanding/hacking binary format.
21:34 < tryagain> btw grep -e '//\|/\*' binfile.c |wc -l gives 10. Four lines are real comments, not counting disclamer at the top of file and commented out code.
21:34 < AlexWien_> yes tryagain
21:35 < tryagain> yes=milions?
21:35 < AlexWien_> no 20
21:35 < AlexWien_> but they have to be dynamic
21:35 < AlexWien_> i must disable them on demand
21:35 < AlexWien_> lets say ervy 30s
21:36 < tryagain> AFAIK changed csv map will be reread automagically
21:36 < AlexWien_> good answer
21:36 < tryagain> probably on next position upate or anything which will cause screen redrawal
21:37 < AlexWien_> so i simply change the csv
21:37 < AlexWien_> that sounds good
21:38 < tryagain> That will be easy to check and fix if it don't work as needed than patching on the fly multimagabyte zipped binfile.
21:39 < AlexWien_> btw: 4 lines of comment in over 2500 lines is that what i call "not one line"
21:39 < tryagain> ;)
21:39 < AlexWien_> yes the binfile solution was from woge
21:40 < AlexWien_> might be appropriatre for his solution, but I knew that it will be an overkill
21:40 < AlexWien_> I will start trying the csv
21:42 < AlexWien_> maybe the comments has been removed to keep it secret ;-)
21:42 < AlexWien_> havebeen removed, typo
21:42 < woglinde> hm no
21:42 < tryagain> You have much better chances to understand that code, grep -e '//\|/\*' *.c |wc -l == 51, at *.c |wc -l == 1218
21:42 < woglinde> cp15 is lazy with documentation
21:42 < woglinde> thats all
21:42 < tryagain> in map/csv
21:42 < tryagain> at == cat
21:44 < AlexWien_> the == 51 I dont understand
21:44 < tryagain> 51 comments
21:45 < tryagain> for 1218 lines of code
21:47 < AlexWien_> ok, the code ends before ==
21:47 < tryagain> yes
21:47 < AlexWien_> OK more or less understood
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21:48 < AlexWien_> I remeber when I created regex to evaluate messages created by the police for updateing the current accident mesages
21:48 < AlexWien_> they were such complex, that I understood them oinyl in the 10 minutes I wrote them
21:49 < tryagain> You're too lazy to write comments, aren't you?
21:49 < AlexWien_> no
21:49 < AlexWien_> I write many
21:50 < Number6> The code is the comment :-P
21:50 < tryagain> for compiler :-P
21:51 < Number6> I like pretending to be GCC. My co-workers don't like when I core dump, though
21:51 < tryagain> Nobody likes when gcc coredumps
21:52 < Number6> Not in the waste bin, or the couch
21:52 < woglinde> since when gcc core dumps?
21:53 < woglinde> it does ice
21:55 < panda81> how do you even debug the cause when gcc core dumps
21:55 < AlexWien_> i debug with gdb
21:56 < AlexWien_> ;-)
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21:57 < AlexWien_> what dev environment us use? vi? or eclipse?
21:57 < AlexWien_> .. you use ...
21:58 < Number6> Linux - vi / Anjuta / Eclipse. OSX - Xcode. Windows... Hah!
21:58 < Number6> Eclipse is handy for finding functions and refactoring
21:58 < AlexWien_> I work with navit under win,
21:58 < panda81_> If gcc core dumps, isn't that a failure with compilation? GDB wouldn't help
21:58 < AlexWien_> I compile in mingw32 shell withcmake
21:59 < AlexWien_> and edit with eclipse, refactro with eclipse (that suprised me that refactoring worked)
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21:59 < AlexWien_> however I dont have a eclipse build integration of navit,
22:00 < AlexWien_> (exactly i compile with mingw32-make)
22:00 < Number6> Eclipse is nice, if it wasn't so damn slow and utterly useless in Linux. I got into a habit of Anjuta on one screen, Eclipse on another and documentation on the 3rd
22:01 < AlexWien_> Do you build on command line or can you build from within your your graph devb
22:01 < panda81_> Alex do you use the Eclipse CDT4 Mingw generator or just the Mingw generator for CMake
22:01 < Number6> You can build in Anjuta
22:01 < Number6> (This is all under Linux, remember :-) )
22:02 < AlexWien_> no is simply created a c Project within eclipse CDT
22:02 < AlexWien_> so i can edit and navigate
22:02 < AlexWien_> but i cannot build
22:02 < AlexWien_> i build in an separte window in a dos shell of mingw32
22:03 < AlexWien_> just the mingw of cmake
22:03 < AlexWien_> We alrfeady lost weeks before we got the sectret tipp, that autotools do not work under win, with cmake it worked withing one or two days
22:04 < panda81_> Then the CDT Mingw version doesn't work either?
22:04 < Number6> I lost weeks before as well, AlexWien_. You'll learn quickly :-)
22:05 < AlexWien_> therefore we updated the build page in navit wiki, to help other people to not go the wrong way ..
22:06 < panda81_> And I can't even compile on Windows. Maybe I'm missing something
22:06 < AlexWien_> @panda I didnt try out the CDR Mingw, I already lost 4 weeks, its fine now, especiallay that refactoring
22:06 < AlexWien_> Read exactly my description (from AlexWien and my colleague)
22:07 < AlexWien_> ist a step to step description
22:07 < AlexWien_> on teh cmake page
22:07 < AlexWien_> however, Imagemagick is a piece of shit
22:08 < Number6> Yes, but it's a *good* piece of shit
22:08 < AlexWien_> I have to take the png files from the navit win32 build
22:08 < Number6> Maybe look at inkscape, I use that on OSX
22:08 < AlexWien_> yes a good piece
22:08 < AlexWien_> but it creates corrupt pngs
22:08 < AlexWien_> or crashes at one specific file
22:09 < Number6> Ok, it's time for bed. I need to get up early tomorrow, to travel to the other side of Ireland... To learn about a Joomla site (I used to develop Joomla...)
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